D1 college soccer under threat

So what's taking the the PAC-12 and the WCC so long to cancel the season. BIG West, IVY and few strays have canceled. I can't imagine there's a loss in revenue for volleyball, soccer, baseball, track, etc. All of those cost money to run and universities are losing tens of millions in lost housing revenue. Furlough all athletic staff not affiliated with revenue generated programs.

1) There's no way Newsome is going to allow non revenue sports to compete.
2) COVID is blowing up in LA with 0 ICU beds available and expect this to hit a peak in the next 7 days or so.
3) Vaccine distribution is going at a snail pace because health care workers are stretched thin.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
So what's taking the the PAC-12 and the WCC so long to cancel the season. BIG West, IVY and few strays have canceled. I can't imagine there's a loss in revenue for volleyball, soccer, baseball, track, etc. All of those cost money to run and universities are losing tens of millions in lost housing revenue. Furlough all athletic staff not affiliated with revenue generated programs.

1) There's no way Newsome is going to allow non revenue sports to compete.
2) COVID is blowing up in LA with 0 ICU beds available and expect this to hit a peak in the next 7 days or so.
3) Vaccine distribution is going at a snail pace because health care workers are stretched thin.
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Based on yesterday's release by the Pac12 regarding attendance, I think the Pac is still planning on playing a season. The WCC has released its conference schedule. I do think that conferences/schools that did have football and had/have protocols in place for football and basketball, will try very hard to have a season. Otherwise, they will have an equivalency argument that they will have to defend. If it were solely a public health defense, that might work but when they have demonstrated some ability to have protocols for the last several months, their public health defense may not be as strong.

Here's yesterday's press release: Pac-12 extends prohibition of fan attendance at sports competitions | Pac-12 (pac-12.com)
 
dk_b said:
Based on yesterday's release by the Pac12 regarding attendance, I think the Pac is still planning on playing a season. The WCC has released its conference schedule. I do think that conferences/schools that did have football and had/have protocols in place for football and basketball, will try very hard to have a season. Otherwise, they will have an equivalency argument that they will have to defend. If it were solely a public health defense, that might work but when they have demonstrated some ability to have protocols for the last several months, their public health defense may not be as strong.

Here's yesterday's press release: Pac-12 extends prohibition of fan attendance at sports competitions | Pac-12 (pac-12.com)
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thanks for the information. Seems like there are different rules depending on what county you are in .

Recently in San Francisco there was a mandatory 10 day quarantine for anyone entering the county. Clearly this would affect many teams coming to play USF.

Santa Clara is going is going to have some issue having games in their county, one of the most progressive and restrictive counties in the bay area.
I mean the NINERS can't play in their own stadium despite NFL covid protocol. Crazy.
 
dk_b said:
Based on yesterday's release by the Pac12 regarding attendance, I think the Pac is still planning on playing a season. The WCC has released its conference schedule. I do think that conferences/schools that did have football and had/have protocols in place for football and basketball, will try very hard to have a season. Otherwise, they will have an equivalency argument that they will have to defend. If it were solely a public health defense, that might work but when they have demonstrated some ability to have protocols for the last several months, their public health defense may not be as strong.

Here's yesterday's press release: Pac-12 extends prohibition of fan attendance at sports competitions | Pac-12 (pac-12.com)
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Yes I wondered about the equivalency argument. It's probably why entire athletic staff haven't been furloughed by now.
 
eastbaysoccer said:
thanks for the information. Seems like there are different rules depending on what county you are in .

Recently in San Francisco there was a mandatory 10 day quarantine for anyone entering the county. Clearly this would affect many teams coming to play USF.

Santa Clara is going is going to have some issue having games in their county, one of the most progressive and restrictive counties in the bay area.
I mean the NINERS can't play in their own stadium despite NFL covid protocol. Crazy.
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Yes - Stanford hoops have played home games in Santa Cruz (both men and women are showing home games at stanford in the next 10+ days or so). The Warriors are playing at home in SF tonight and USF seems to be playing home basketball games (and the Dons men's hoops team is scheduled to play at Santa Clara on Jan 21).

It's going to be a challenge, especially if lodging is necessary b/c I think the overnight stays are where you run into the quarantine rules.

Re the equivalency question: I do think the WCC's schedule is more tenuous b/c they don't have football. But I also think that the fact that they are continuing a basketball season, while not an equity issue (since men's and women's teams offset on #s), they have a harder argument that other sports can't move forward (caveat: if a municipality or a state prohibits it, I'd expect that to trump anything the schools might want or be able to do)
 
eastbaysoccer said:
So what's taking the the PAC-12 and the WCC so long to cancel the season. BIG West, IVY and few strays have canceled. I can't imagine there's a loss in revenue for volleyball, soccer, baseball, track, etc. All of those cost money to run and universities are losing tens of millions in lost housing revenue. Furlough all athletic staff not affiliated with revenue generated programs.

1) There's no way Newsome is going to allow non revenue sports to compete.
2) COVID is blowing up in LA with 0 ICU beds available and expect this to hit a peak in the next 7 days or so.
3) Vaccine distribution is going at a snail pace because health care workers are stretched thin.
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vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
 
Jose has returned said:
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
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A lot of states seem to be politicizing and overthinking the rollout.

They spent too much time thinking about the impact on racial/ethnic identity groups, and too little time thinking about when, where, and how to give millions of injections.

Interestingly, North Dakota seems to be doing the best. They have about 3/4 of their allotment already into arms. We are down at 1/4.
 
Jose has returned said:
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
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All these people who spent their entire adult lives complaining about government intrusion on private business, and who did nothing to help control spread that has overwhelmed our healthcare system, are now complaining that the governor disn’t forcing veterinarians to store and distribute vaccines.
 
Jose has returned said:
vaccine distribution is going slow because the governor didn't have a plan. There are a lot of people that can give the shot. FF paramedics are in just about every city in the state. Even vets and lab techs can give it. It is very simple. He just failed to plan again.
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To my understanding it’s not so easy because they need to keep them in extremely cold refrigerators. Does CVS have the equipment to handle the Pfizer vaccine?
 
EOTL said:
All these people who spent their entire adult lives complaining about government intrusion on private business, and who did nothing to help control spread that has overwhelmed our healthcare system, are now complaining that the governor disn’t forcing veterinarians to store and distribute vaccines.
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well when you were in New York did you get the shot? They were told a vaccine was coming and Ca. failed to plan. Nobody said anything about forcing vets to store and give the shot. They can volunteer to go work at the locations administering the vaccine. Giving the shot can be done by anyone that can pinch an arm and inject a shot. If you can give your dog a shot you can do this.....Seems to me you are a govt. official that talks big but can't plan and execute.
 
dad4 said:
A lot of states seem to be politicizing and overthinking the rollout.

They spent too much time thinking about the impact on racial/ethnic identity groups, and too little time thinking about when, where, and how to give millions of injections.

Interestingly, North Dakota seems to be doing the best. They have about 3/4 of their allotment already into arms. We are down at 1/4.
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I agree with you.
 
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