TFA
you should of won your 3 games but you didnt so move on!!!
maybe if the surf cup "staffer" uploads the video of him recording 10yr olds on the spot (which there was no consent)
Surf Cup Scandal: Dallas Texans (PST) Salazar colludes with TFA
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maybe if the surf cup "staffer" uploads the video of him recording 10yr olds on the spot (which there was no consent)
Looky_Louie
BRONZE
It makes no sense for the Texans to offer TFA 2 a collusion. What do they get out of colluding with TFA team 2. They could have easily beaten them and still made the finals as all the remainder teams sucked, including Surf 2010. As you can see all the teams that made it to finals got spanked.
As far as TFA 2 they seem like a pretty legit team. According to Youth Soccer Rankings they are ranked 12th in the nation and 4th in Southern California. A lot of the players from team 2 have either gone to TFA 1 or even gone to LAFC. It just doesn’t make sense that the Texans would agree to collude if they are a better team and general. I just think that Surf was probably losing their game and colluded with RSL-AZ to tie in hopes that TFA or the Texans would lose and they would both slip into the semi finals. At the end of the day all of it seems shady from Surf fixing the brackets and surf tying 4-4 and the coach from Surf coming to the final game pressuring the kids to raise their hands to something that can’t be proved and filming the kids with no parent consent. I’m just saying allegedly.
fantasyfutbol
SILVER
The topic is Salazar and Caparelli cheating. A sub topic is Dallas parents appear to not have liked that situation and reported it to a North Texas News Source. The link still works. Check it out for yourself.
You decide to join on Sunday and your first post is "Surf Sucks". Maybe Surf does suck, it appears they do. What the hell does that have to do with Salazar and Caparelli being dirtbags?
Take Panfilo to get an ice cream with his silver surf medal around his neck and tell him he is going pro. After that take him to his B team practice (or TFA 2 as you like to call it).
CheatingMkay
BRONZE
It does not make a lot of sense. You are right. And yet they did collude to fix the match, which is why many of their parents were angry about it. I wish they would have confronted the coach before the match to change his mind, but they didn't.
Face it. Your coach had your kids cheat and you sat by and let it happen. Your boys know what they did was wrong, but they had both their parents and coach telling them it was ok.
You know that what you did was wrong, which is why you are bringing up unrelated arguments and accusations to try and focus attention elsewhere. I really hope you and the other parents on the team realize that some things are more important than not pissing off your 20-something coach, and use this incident to teach them about sportsmanship and honesty.
notintheface
GOLD
10-year-olds literally could not fix a match 4-4 if their lives depended on it. "Wait, should I shoot now? No? Yes? F it, here goes..."
If the topic is Salazar and caparelli what the hell does little panfilo have to do with
You best believe we get La Michoacána before and after practice .
texanincali
SILVER ELITE
I guess I don’t understand the back and forth here. Was there a message sent to the Texan team letting parent know what was going to happen? Has anyone seen this message with their own eyes? From what I understand this coach has a reputation and this wouldn’t surprise many people.
If there is still a debate as to whether or not this actually happened, how do we get to a conclusion?
If there is still a debate as to whether or not this actually happened, how do we get to a conclusion?
fish rots from the head down... if FIFA can arrange for Quaatar to host WC in mid summer, why not tweak the outcome of a U10 tournament.
this is the saddest thing I’ve read on the forum by far. Little boys manipulated so a coach can hang a medal around his neck and hug a plastic trophy?
Looky_Louie
BRONZE
The problem with Fantasyfutbol is that he’s bitter that his little guy never went pro and still trolls this forum since 2016. BTW my son plays for AYSO and is 16 years old. We play the game for fun and ice cream.
I don’t know those two coaches, but everything that everybody is saying is fake news and just because someone writes something in bold doesn’t make it true. At the end of the day, it really is about little panfilo and making sure he eats that ice cream with that cherry on top.
CheatingMkay
BRONZE
Yes, the screenshots were viewed by Surf Cup staff, and the reporter. Both TeamSnap messages from the Texans coach telling the parents that they were not going to play to win, and many angry group texts amongst the Texans parents outraged by the plan but not willing to pull their kid out of the game. The Surf coach who was eliminated watched the "game". The refs wrote a report on the match saying that no one tried to score. Every kid admitted they were told not to shoot.
There's no question it happened. It's telling that the two sets of parents reacted very differently. Texans parents were angry, organized a parent meeting to discuss, and some boycotted watching the game. TFA, on the other hand, reacted angrily when confronted, and seemed outraged not at the coach, but with Surf Cup staff who had the temerity to object to their cheating. The TFA DoC even sent Surf Cup an angry email demnding punishment for the staffer who confronted the coaches. I'm sure he reacted based solely on Caparelli's lies - he has gone radio silent since.
A good chunk of them wouldn't even know what the score is. "Whats the score? Are we winning?"
Two things:
1) I watched about 15 mins of the game and it was definitely fixed, with neither team attempting to score ( and no I don’t have a child who plays in the age group, or any vested interest in the game - just waiting as My sons team warmed up).
2) This forum is much like youth soccer in general - it brings out the best in some and worst in others ( some of the comments on here are just off topic and ignorant - let’s all stay away from judging the quality of someone else’s team, especially 10 year olds). Later that day, I talked to my son about this game and about tactics team use in general when teams try to win. Our job is to raise young kids into productive members of society as adults - teach them what is right and wrong. That applies both in the game and out of it. In any normal job, both of coaches would be suspended / fired from their jobs.
1) I watched about 15 mins of the game and it was definitely fixed, with neither team attempting to score ( and no I don’t have a child who plays in the age group, or any vested interest in the game - just waiting as My sons team warmed up).
2) This forum is much like youth soccer in general - it brings out the best in some and worst in others ( some of the comments on here are just off topic and ignorant - let’s all stay away from judging the quality of someone else’s team, especially 10 year olds). Later that day, I talked to my son about this game and about tactics team use in general when teams try to win. Our job is to raise young kids into productive members of society as adults - teach them what is right and wrong. That applies both in the game and out of it. In any normal job, both of coaches would be suspended / fired from their jobs.
Now this is funny...youth soccer rankings...the ones that have LAUFA as #1 and Surf Select not even on the list....Many players from TFA2 going to LAFC??? C'mon man seriously? Where are you getting your info from.
Salazar wanted to play TFA2 in the final because they can easily be beat. He wanted to avoid Surf because he knows who they are... he almost lost to them last year and Salazar had a much stronger team.
ntxsoccerwire
BRONZE
The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.
The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.
The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.
That's an interesting perspective and there is probably some element of truth to it. However, as far as FIFA goes your talking about an international organization where in some countries bribery, mordida, etc is often standard operating procedure.
This situation obviously has more to do with the focus on winning as opposed to development. I'm not anti-tournaments, but tournaments often bring out the worst in teams/clubs...bracket fixing, running up the score, tie collusion, bat-shit crazy parents (particularly at youngers). The worst behavior I've seen has far and away been at tourneys and not league games. Some things are tournament host caused like running up the score, which is somewhat solvable by changing tiebreaker priority from most goals scored or score differential to fewest goals against or shutouts. In fact, I like tournaments that give bonus points for shutouts. Fortunately, our team doesn't normally play tournaments, although we likely will this spring and summer since league has been postponed until September.
To me it seems like TFA/Texans to wasted a competitive game, but I guess the could argue they got 2 for the price of 1. Super lame regardless.
Eagle33
PREMIER
Which League was postponed until September? Is there official statement?
MLS Next. No official statement that I'm aware of, but what we were told by our coach. Our club DOC has been heavily involved with the formation of MLS Next for the Southwest region. So I would file this under unconfirmed, but likely true.
This is the first decent explanation of why Texans would do it.
Looking at the scores, I’m not sure I believe it, though. Texans are the #2 team in the country. You’re telling me they threw the game because they were afraid of a team that had just tied RSL-AZ? Really?
I can believe that Texans and TFA were pissed off at the blatant bracket manipulation, and made a bad decision to get even because they were angry.
Again, everyone keeps going off of these rankings. The rankings are garbage. The Texans lost their top players from last year. The Texans flew out a player from the east coast to help them win Supercopa and therefore gain points on the soccer rankings. He flew a couple of kids from Philadelphia to Surf Cup for his 2011 to win. He cares that much about winning. His 2010 team did not have any guest players for Surf Cup and I'm assuming he thought he could be beat by a team that played him really well last year. Trust me Salazar knows the TFA teams really well. He has had some epic battles with their top team. With this brand new B team however, he knew he could easily beat them. The TFA B team is brand new, with the core coming from a team that folded in the South Bay.
All you talk about is that there is evidence
You have not shown anything
What about Texans parents msgs.. where are they??
It doesn’t communicate anything!!!The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.
The story has been republished on our site. It was originally unpublished because our sources were unable/unwilling to provide the evidence we felt we would need to defend the story against any liable/defamation claims. In the 36 hours we took the story down, we've since obtained the necessary information corroborated the story with parents sources who confirmed it all. There for we've put it back up.
Where are the messages??