Surf Cup's Fate

p.s. under the guidance the rule is where the team is domiciled. So 2 California teams cannot just go to Arizona to play each other in league or scrimmage unless they are from the same county or a neighboring county that is in the same or better tier. The loophole Dargle found it they CAN go apparently (at least from the letter of the guidance) to scrimmage or league play an Arizona team. They are not allowed to play a California team from a prohibited county (even if such game takes place in Reno or Arizona).
Come on Grace, the cannons of legislative construction is basic 1L stuff. To hell with the plain meaning of the order written under duress during a pandemic, what is the legislative intent?
 
Come on Grace, the cannons of legislative construction is basic 1L stuff. To hell with the plain meaning of the order written under duress during a pandemic, what is the legislative intent?

Her goal is to game the system to fit her personal desires, not to do the right thing. The American Way.
 
Come on Grace, the cannons of legislative construction is basic 1L stuff. To hell with the plain meaning of the order written under duress during a pandemic, what is the legislative intent?
oh I agree the intent isn’t to allow that loop and it is a...creative read of the order. But for those willing to take the risk it might be more of the ask forgiveness rather than permission tactic. In any case both waterpolo (for the mask thing) and volleyball (because of the dodgeball thing) are already lobbying the order. The governor revised the playground order so they are hoping to get similar tweaks. Our leadership seems to be asleep at the wheel if cheer got better treatment and we are the same as football. Also today the tier system lawsuit goes to challenge...don’t know anything about the basis of the lawsuit but the order now firmly ties sports to the tier system.
 
Because virtually every state in the country has much higher infection and mortality rates than CA. Because all the contacts you will have at the airport and all the other places you go significantly increases the risk that you will bring it to CA. Because taking steps to discourage mass travel significantly reduces the number of interactions people have which, in turn, substantially slows down the rate of transmission. Because if you can’t travel, the 1000 people you would have had some close contact with at the airport and during your visit, and the 1000 they had, and the 1000 they had, is now zero. You only have your trip to the grocery store and the five people you ran into there that you can potentially kill.
Wow! You really are a glass half empty kinda guy! So if I go to El Centro, I don't have to quarantine, but if I go to Yuma, I do? Just want to make sure I understand the rules. And you may want to check your metrics....infection rate in LA is extremely high despite having the most restrictions throughout the entire pandemic.
 
Id personally be more worried about you (if you were my co worker) going to a walmart or christmas shopping at costco than going out of state to watch your kid play soccer outside at a fucking park?
I was at walmart just 2 days ago and I was blown away at the amount of people inside, over a thousand for sure if there is a super spreader--- its the stores where people touch stuff.
Agree. It is 15X safer to be at that park than to be inside Walmart. Either shut everyone down inside their homes for two straight weeks, or recommend that people spend time outdoors, not indoors at stores.

 
Agree. It is 15X safer to be at that park than to be inside walmart. Either shut everyone down inside their homes, or reccomend that people spend time outdoors, not indoors at stores.

All the big box companies and big cooperate folks are open for biz. Small biz owners are SOL. Let's see how these folks handle things Jan 5th, 2021. I'm sure T will have a little meet up in the Oval and get their game plan for the next four years. So nice of these kind folks WHO really care about the avg Joe American. The Blue team was so mad last election. Now the Red team get's to have pay back for four years. Mitch is all in and is ready to go. Oh joy, this will get crazy. The left side just yells and screams at people and calls anyone they want a racist. The right side has me more concerned because their tough SOBs, have lot's of guns and ammo and lost everything already. The left only lost power four years ago ((no business or job)) and they want it all back, like right now and by any means necessary. Here we go folks, this is going to get really really nasty. Help God. Help Seal Team 6. Help us all!!!!
 
Wow! You really are a glass half empty kinda guy! So if I go to El Centro, I don't have to quarantine, but if I go to Yuma, I do? Just want to make sure I understand the rules. And you may want to check your metrics....infection rate in LA is extremely high despite having the most restrictions throughout the entire pandemic.

Oh I understand the facts, the problem is people lime you don’t care about the facts. LA is the most densely populated region in the US over a span greater than 9 miles. Of course it has higher infection rates than many places, but still lower death rates than most places. LA must have more severe restrictions in order to keep more people alive.

Keep denying reality. Travel exacerbates spread. Substantial travel by a substantial number of people exacerbates spread substantially, which increases deaths substantially. That is fact. It doesn’t matter whether denialist daddy is traveling to AZ for kiddie soccer or Las Vegas to gamble. Every rule that discourages or reduces travel right now saves lives. And, yes, a rule that allows travel to El Centro but not Yuma makes perfect sense. No one wants to go to El Centro, but many people want to go to AZ to play stupid kiddie soccer games. No one goes through high risk crowded airports to fly to El Centro, but many do to AZ. Making it more difficult to go to AZ means most people go to neither place.
 
Agree. It is 15X safer to be at that park than to be inside Walmart. Either shut everyone down inside their homes for two straight weeks, or recommend that people spend time outdoors, not indoors at stores.


People must shop. Kiddie soccer is a luxury. A company like Wal-mart can (and must) implement practices that reduce spread, while stupid daddy denialists cannot be contained at their kiddies’ soccer games. Parks do not have the resources to enforce social distancing. Stop whining Karen. Living vicariously through your child is not important compared to being able to put food on the table. Seriously, what you are saying idiotic. The American Way.
 
Guess my kid is running track at school. They put girls Lacrosse and boys lacrosse in different categories? Do they have different rules? I thought Lacrosse was more physical than soccer? Indoor basketball is never happening. How football and soccer can be put in the same category is absurd. Blocking and tackling. Sheesh.
 
Agree. It is 15X safer to be at that park than to be inside Walmart. Either shut everyone down inside their homes for two straight weeks, or recommend that people spend time outdoors, not indoors at stores.

No one, other than merchants, is recommending you go to a store. And they’ve been recommending outdoor activity for months now.

So, yes. Skip the store and go to a park.
 
Guess my kid is running track at school. They put girls Lacrosse and boys lacrosse in different categories? Do they have different rules? I thought Lacrosse was more physical than soccer? Indoor basketball is never happening. How football and soccer can be put in the same category is absurd. Blocking and tackling. Sheesh.
I have heard girls lacrosse is no "body checking". Football? Everything you said, huddles and the lineman line up across from each other play after play is considerably different from soccer.
 
Guess my kid is running track at school. They put girls Lacrosse and boys lacrosse in different categories? Do they have different rules? I thought Lacrosse was more physical than soccer? Indoor basketball is never happening. How football and soccer can be put in the same category is absurd. Blocking and tackling. Sheesh.
None of these health folks played sports. They have no clue what their doing. Color coded BS!!!! These are not laws btw but anyone who get;s their money from the power players have to STFU!!!!
 
Agree. It is 15X safer to be at that park than to be inside Walmart. Either shut everyone down inside their homes for two straight weeks, or recommend that people spend time outdoors, not indoors at stores.


Y’all think soccer is perfectly fine and there is no spread.

Private schools say it isn’t spread at schools. https://www.wuwm.com/post/private-s...-racine-health-order-closing-schools#stream/0

Retailers don’t think it is spread in stores. https://therealdeal.com/la/2020/11/...bby-wants-data-to-justify-covid-restrictions/

It isn’t spread on planes according to airlines.

People here have said it isn’t spread at Sturgis motorcycle rallies, political rallies in Omaha, casinos, restaurants. bars, church, etc.

Covid-19 is literally not spread anywhere besides between rest home beds if you believe everyone who doesn’t want it to be spread at the places
that are important to them. Just give it up. Admit that soccer tournaments like Surf Cup contribute to spread but you don’t care, and you don’t care how many people need to die for you to live vicariously through your child.
 
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Don't lie to little girls!!!!!

@EOTL I have Q for you. Why are you so mean to kids and their parents? Why you here? Honestly, no kids that play the game but here 24/7? Where is Espola when you need him? You made fun of my dd and have said on numerous times how she is no good now. Just so you know, she is on here. 100% true bro. She can write very well so get ready for her. I want you two to have an open discussion as well. She's a big girl and can handle her own. I know she is appalled at the things you say. I must admit, I too have said things that she's appalled by so were both typical males. You have given her great motivation sir and some others on here as well. Plus, you blame me for taking all the top 04' Blues players to Surf so I could win the Natty, which was a big fat lie and hurt my reputation. I can also go back and read all your BS!!!! My goat is motivated like non other. Running hills at 9am. She wont forget it, like ever the things you said about her. She is getting ready to showcase and prove you wrong brother. Telling her she's all washed up and a "has been" and not the player she was when she was 11, 12 and 13 is so sic. Shame on you mean little man. Plus, mean man EOTL is also mean to our sweet Gracie. Love you Grace :) You can say sorry right now to her and my dd. Karma???? We both have forgiven you. Please, do the right thing and treat all the young girls right and all woman. Parents were sold BS and were lied to so many times and you just laugh at us Coach _______________________________________.
 
Y’all think soccer is perfectly fine and there is no spread.

Private schools say it isn’t spread at schools. https://www.wuwm.com/post/private-s...-racine-health-order-closing-schools#stream/0

Retailers don’t think it is spread in stores. https://therealdeal.com/la/2020/11/...bby-wants-data-to-justify-covid-restrictions/

It isn’t spread on planes according to airlines.

People here have said it isn’t spread at Sturgis motorcycle rallies, political rallies in Omaha, casinos, restaurants. bars, church, etc.

Covid-19 is literally not spread anywhere besides between rest home beds if you believe everyone who doesn’t want it to be spread at the places
that are important to them. Just give it up. Admit that soccer tournaments like Surf Cup contribute to spread but you don’t care, and you don’t care how many people need to die for you to live vicariously through your child.
Sometimes the herd needs thinning.
 
Santa Clara is different. Cities are following the county health dept. Restaurants are closed, except for takeout and delivery. In general, it’s quiet.
SD restaurants that I've seen are following the no outdoor dining rule. One clever restaurant that has a parking lot has turned their service into a car hop...brilliant, each course comes out fresh and no soggy tacos like what you get with normal takeout. If they have the space I encourage all restaurants to follow the Sonic model. Meanwhile, the malls in SD are slammed.

To Dad4 's point about allowing games for the first time in the guidance, yes, they've given us a carrot its just on the end of a mile long stick. Newsom is a political genius because now it makes it seem like the ball is in our court, so if we don't end up playing any games, he can claim its our fault as citizens for not following the rules. When in fact none of his restrictions have worked to stop the virus, because you can't effectively stop a virus and you can't get citizens to follow obviously arbitrary restrictions.

So what was most everyone's first response to the new guidance (other than Newsom is a complete douche)? The first response was what are the workarounds, loopholes and inconsistencies? This is what happens with sane people that are tired of arbitrary and non-science based rules. That's what happens when you have someone that is more interested in dictating than leading. Yes, I went political.
 
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