Surf Cup's Fate

Soccer Bum 06 said:
Why can’t we keep all activities that are not causing spread of the disease open? Shouldn’t be a peeking order or have to pick one over the other. I find all you listed important to having a healthy community. Viruses are not the only things that cause problems for communities. Poverty, obesity, lack of education are all long term symptoms of a unhealthy population. What is being done by these lockdowns and school closures is short sighted and not looking at the long term impacts to all people.
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Like I said on the other post, opening up schools and allowing pe is more important than allowing club sports. I am not saying that I like it but the rest of the world could care less about club sports.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
Like I said on the other post, opening up schools and allowing pe is more important than allowing club sports. I am not saying that I like it but the rest of the world could care less about club sports.
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It's not just club sports too....it's also got implication for rec sports (AYSO spring league, for example) and school based sports (that's probably all she wrote for the football season)
 
You all are missing the point.

We finally have a set of rules which allows local games. This hasn’t been true since March.

Best news we’ve had in months. Time for me to renew my referee registration.

Now go back to quibbling over the details.

(yes, I know we have to get back to orange. March.)
 
dad4 said:
You all are missing the point.

We finally have a set of rules which allows local games. This hasn’t been true since March.

Best news we’ve had in months. Time for me to renew my referee registration.

Now go back to quibbling over the details.

(yes, I know we have to get back to orange. March.)
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Look at you Mr. Glass Half Full. I take back all the buzzkill comments I made previously. I hope your right about March. I'm still skeptical.
 
dad4 said:
(yes, I know we have to get back to orange. March.)
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So what do folks think this means for soccer going forward (assuming Dad's right and cases counts drop so some counties are in orange by March)? Do they scratch any sort of season....one of the reasons CalSouth had been reluctant to just throw everything out was because they didn't want to lose State Cup which theoretically could be played over the summer? Do they try to have a season (knowing some counties like Los Angeles might be in red or might fall back and forth between tiers) or do they just say f--- it...tryouts in the spring and we just wash out the season? There's a blanket ban on contact sports tournaments so the summer tournament and camp season may not happen (barring a change in the tier system or COVID suddenly disappearing)...does that influence anything? If kids can't do training camps in state do they go in the summer to other states and does that influence any ability to do anything?
 
Grace T. said:
So what do folks think this means for soccer going forward (assuming Dad's right and cases counts drop so some counties are in orange by March)? Do they scratch any sort of season....one of the reasons CalSouth had been reluctant to just throw everything out was because they didn't want to lose State Cup which theoretically could be played over the summer? Do they try to have a season (knowing some counties like Los Angeles might be in red or might fall back and forth between tiers) or do they just say f--- it...tryouts in the spring and we just wash out the season? There's a blanket ban on contact sports tournaments so the summer tournament and camp season may not happen (barring a change in the tier system or COVID suddenly disappearing)...does that influence anything?
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Remember...it’s “REGIONS”, not Counties.
 
Kicker4Life said:
I hope you’re right. But i don’t know why they would create regions if not holding the countries within to the same standards (despite the lack of supporting science)
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But that's the point I was making...there's a prohibition, for example, on playing a team from another county (though you can play a team from an adjacent county if they are in the same tier). You cannot play a team from 2 counties away. So I don't see how some of the major teams outside the San Diego area make it work any time in the near future for any sort of league play or scrimmages....for example Real SoCal couldn't play teams from San Diego county. For some leaving CalSouth might not have been the best time.
 
Grace T. said:
But that's the point I was making...there's a prohibition, for example, on playing a team from another county (though you can play a team from an adjacent county if they are in the same tier). You cannot play a team from 2 counties away. So I don't see how some of the major teams outside the San Diego area make it work any time in the near future for any sort of league play or scrimmages....for example Real SoCal couldn't play teams from San Diego county
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Even more fun for those of us in NorCal where there is no other ECNL club in our county and just one club in an adjacent county.
:(
 
Soccerfan2 said:
Even more fun for those of us in NorCal where there is no other ECNL club in our county and just one club in an adjacent county.
:(
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Are the MLS academy teams governed by these rules?....if so LAFC and LA Galaxy academy are so freaking f----ed. Likely in the red tier longest, can't travel, can't play teams in San Diego.
 
dad4 said:
You all are missing the point.

We finally have a set of rules which allows local games. This hasn’t been true since March.

Best news we’ve had in months. Time for me to renew my referee registration.

Now go back to quibbling over the details.

(yes, I know we have to get back to orange. March.)
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I notice you didn’t put a year with “March”. Orange is 1.0 to 3.9. March 2021 seems optimistic. I’m guessing if people are already ignoring many of the restrictions, it’ll be considerably worse by March. I’d guess we are going to have some low level of infections until we reach herd immunity. Are you confident that will be < 4/100,000? Maybe infections fall off a cliff given our current surge and the help we’ll have with vaccine rollouts. We’ll need them to if we want to play by March. Also, March is still “flu season”. I hope so. Actually, I’m hoping for February.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
Even more fun for those of us in NorCal where there is no other ECNL club in our county and just one club in an adjacent county.
:(
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This works to the benefit of OC teams generally (lots of counties surrounding), San Diego and lower level teams. If this does apply to the MLS academies, they are so f'ed....they for example can't disobey the tournament ban without it having repercussions for the pro league and stadium reopenings (which are much more important to them0. The higher level team you have, the more painful this is. AYSO for example could easily organize a core program since they are neighborhood based with relatively few issues. It gets harder as you move up from Extras.

Also unless COVID suddenly disappears or there is a dramatic change in the tier system I can't see the summer tournament season taking place.
 
Soccer Bum 06 said:
Can’t make sense out of madness!
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It all makes perfect sense and is very simple.

1. Do what is within your control - including by your own actions and also by encouraging others to do the same - to limit spread.
2. When you don’t, and it doesn’t by March, STFU and self-own that it is still your fault that we’re in this predicament, just like every month that preceded it.

The only madness here is thinking that whining for a tenth straight month will fix things although whining the first nine months only led to 3,000 people a day dying.
 
Grace T. said:
This works to the benefit of OC teams generally (lots of counties surrounding), San Diego and lower level teams. If this does apply to the MLS academies, they are so f'ed....they for example can't disobey the tournament ban without it having repercussions for the pro league and stadium reopenings (which are much more important to them0. The higher level team you have, the more painful this is. AYSO for example could easily organize a core program since they are neighborhood based with relatively few issues. It gets harder as you move up from Extras.

Also unless COVID suddenly disappears or there is a dramatic change in the tier system I can't see the summer tournament season taking place.
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I hear Reno is nice in the spring ;)
 
kickingandscreaming said:
I notice you didn’t put a year with “March”. Orange is 1.0 to 3.9. March 2021 seems optimistic. I’m guessing if people are already ignoring many of the restrictions, it’ll be considerably worse by March. I’d guess we are going to have some low level of infections until we reach herd immunity. Are you confident that will be < 4/100,000? Maybe infections fall off a cliff given our current surge and the help we’ll have with vaccine rollouts. We’ll need them to if we want to play by March. Also, March is still “flu season”. I hope so. Actually, I’m hoping for February.
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IIRC Placer and Santa Clara(?) counties managed to get into the orange tier briefly. Last time any of Socal's counties was in Orange was 2019.
 
Messi>CR7 said:
IIRC Placer and Santa Clara(?) counties managed to get into the orange tier briefly. Last time any of Socal's counties was in Orange was 2019.
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Well here's the other thing we don't know. The pfizer vaccine IIHC was approved for 16-17 year olds. The problem is getting it to them. They are going to be after 65+ and anyone with a severe health concern (e.g. cancer). But if the 16-18 are vaccinated in spring does it change things? The vaccine would likely have to be mandatory for that to happen. If the MLS academies are captured by this guidance, I gotta believe they'll push for this. The youngers maybe 12 and over get some relief thereafter...none for the youngest any time soon.
 
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