Surf Cup's Fate

Chalklines said:
How many selfish parents will drop their kids off at school again the following day after the tournament despite school districts requests to quarantine after out-of-state travel?

Better yet how many parents will tell their kids to lie about going to the tournament?
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This is not to be sarcastic but I really want to know.....why is it necessary to quarantine after being out of state where you may or may not have been exposed? Any place you go (school, work, grocery store) requires masks and distancing. We wear masks and stay away from people to avoid getting infected or passing it to someone else so why would you be expected to quarantine as well?
 
Glitterhater said:
I am still amazed at how (arbitrarily) different each school district is. Our cases are higher than they have even been and our kids are in school, (on campus,) in a cohort model.

Sorry for y'all who have not even had a creative schedule for in-person, something is better than nothing in *some cases.
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My dd is in heaven. Wake up at 11, have lunch and then a class and it's all over. Go train and then fun with friends. Only thing she misses is soccer but she has more time now to hang with her friends.
 
Jose has returned said:
i wouldn't tell them to lie but drop them off at school absolutely. Wear a mask and SD it won't spread to classmates.
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You'd drop them off and not tell the school that they went out of state?

Parents like you are one reason why the schools have trouble opening. You can trust 90% of families to be honest and quarantine. The other 10% would drop their kids off and not tell anyone.

But, because 10% would "absolutely" drop their kid off after a potential exposure, perceived risk is higher and it's more difficult to justify opening.

( I know, you are certain that the risk is "zero", in all caps with exclamation marks. Other people disagree with that assessment. )
 
crush said:
My dd is in heaven. Wake up at 11, have lunch and then a class and it's all over. Go train and then fun with friends. Only thing she misses is soccer but she has more time now to hang with her friends.
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As I'm sure you're aware, this is not the case for a good number of kids.
 
Glitterhater said:
As I'm sure you're aware, this is not the case for a good number of kids.
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Yes I know. My buddy wifey poo teaches kids in LA from her Orange Hills estate. 30% of her 17 year olds are missing. 70% only have to log in and they get an A to participate. Hopefully by next Fall classes can begin. Her life is amazing and so is his. He works from home too and they have a live in 18 year old helping around the house. Life style of the rich and famous :)
 
dad4 said:
You'd drop them off and not tell the school that they went out of state?

Parents like you are one reason why the schools have trouble opening. You can trust 90% of families to be honest and quarantine. The other 10% would drop their kids off and not tell anyone.

But, because 10% would "absolutely" drop their kid off after a potential exposure, perceived risk is higher and it's more difficult to justify opening.

( I know, you are certain that the risk is "zero", in all caps with exclamation marks. Other people disagree with that assessment. )
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How can you put any boundaries on any of this, where's the science????

First off , everyone has been going out of state for scrimmages have they not?

Why is it different from going to Los Angeles and then to San Diego ,

AZ your in a car for 6 hours, your outside at the sidelines wearing mask , like you do at Trader Joes off mission ave, then you isolate in a room eating take out

How is going out of state more exposure than going to a big box store locally? Is there a invisible contagious cloud of smoke you drive thru...

Or eating in a restaurant patio outside with 45 people under a tent in Vista....thats pretty safe right...

Going into a closed space and touching other things that people have looked at--Costco, best buy, amazon fresh...

Can you explain the science for me there Im lost.....

What you are doing is all you need to worry about.......

Imagine------ , Hey Jimmy went Xmas shopping at Walmart, theres 1000k people inside there , how are you not having a problem with that???

How can you put any boundaries on any of this
 
46n2 said:
How can you put any boundaries on any of this, where's the science????

First off , everyone has been going out of state for scrimmages have they not?

Why is it different from going to Los Angeles and then to San Diego ,

AZ your in a car for 6 hours, your outside at the sidelines wearing mask , like you do at Trader Joes off mission ave, then you isolate in a room eating take out

How is going out of state more exposure than going to a big box store locally? Is there a invisible contagious cloud of smoke you drive thru...

Or eating in a restaurant patio outside with 45 people under a tent in Vista....thats pretty safe right...

Going into a closed space and touching other things that people have looked at--Costco, best buy, amazon fresh...

Can you explain the science for me there Im lost.....

What you are doing is all you need to worry about.......

Imagine------ , Hey Jimmy went Xmas shopping at Walmart, theres 1000k people inside there , how are you not having a problem with that???

How can you put any boundaries on any of this
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Nailed it!
 
Id personally be more worried about you (if you were my co worker) going to a walmart or christmas shopping at costco than going out of state to watch your kid play soccer outside at a fucking park?
I was at walmart just 2 days ago and I was blown away at the amount of people inside, over a thousand for sure if there is a super spreader--- its the stores where people touch stuff.


I stole this from Web MD.

Viruses spread from person to person mainly in droplets that fly out when you cough or sneeze. These tiny drops from a sick person move through the air and land on the mouths or noses of others nearby.

Germs are also passed along when you touch mucus droplets from someone else on a surface like a desk and then touch your own eyes, mouth, or nose before you get a chance to wash your hands. Viruses like the flu can live 24 hours or longer on plastic and metal surfaces like cafeteria tables, doorknobs, and cups.
 
MacDre said:
I’d say shopping is necessary and worth the risk. Organized youth sports are unnecessary and not worth the risk.
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If I didn’t have my last child still in youth sports, I would care less about this topic. First keep small businesses open, restaurants, then schools, then gyms, and last would be club sports.
 
TOSDCI said:
This is not to be sarcastic but I really want to know.....why is it necessary to quarantine after being out of state where you may or may not have been exposed? Any place you go (school, work, grocery store) requires masks and distancing. We wear masks and stay away from people to avoid getting infected or passing it to someone else so why would you be expected to quarantine as well?
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Because there is this harebrained and scientifically unfounded idea now that we should quarantine healthy people. I don't know if its based on shear stupidity or fear. Sick or exposed, 100% yes, you should quarantine.

Waiting for inane retort of "Well how do you know you haven't been exposed?"
 
watfly said:
Because there is this harebrained and scientifically unfounded idea now that we should quarantine healthy people. I don't know if its based on shear stupidity or fear. Sick or exposed, 100% yes, you should quarantine.

Waiting for inane retort of "Well how do you know you haven't been exposed?"
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Why is the retort inane? By now, it is quite clear that many contagious people have no clue they are spreading it. Equivalently, many people who feel healthy are actually contagious.

The problem is not that the argument is weak. The problem is that it leads to a conclusion you don't like.
 
dad4 said:
Why is the retort inane? By now, it is quite clear that many contagious people have no clue they are spreading it. Equivalently, many people who feel healthy are actually contagious.

The problem is not that the argument is weak. The problem is that it leads to a conclusion you don't like.
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Because you only have to quarantine for the following "close contact" exposures to a Covid positive person as described by the CDC as follows:

What counts as close contact?

  • You were within 6 feet of someone who has COVID-19 for a total of 15 minutes or more
  • You provided care at home to someone who is sick with COVID-19
  • You had direct physical contact with the person (hugged or kissed them)
  • You shared eating or drinking utensils
  • They sneezed, coughed, or somehow got respiratory droplets on you
All these things are incredibly easy to avoid at a soccer tournament (from any human, infected or not). That's how I know that I've not had a quarantinable exposure. You, and others want to assume that going to a soccer tournament is dangerous, if you want to make the conclusion based on your risk level, more power to you. But again don't project your fears onto others behaviors when you have no basis to do so. If you want to quarantine yourself and go beyond the CDC guidance that's your choice, but you don't get to make that choice for me.
 
SoccerFan4Life said:
If I didn’t have my last child still in youth sports, I would care less about this topic. First keep small businesses open, restaurants, then schools, then gyms, and last would be club sports.
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Why can’t we keep all activities that are not causing spread of the disease open? Shouldn’t be a peeking order or have to pick one over the other. I find all you listed important to having a healthy community. Viruses are not the only things that cause problems for communities. Poverty, obesity, lack of education are all long term symptoms of a unhealthy population. What is being done by these lockdowns and school closures is short sighted and not looking at the long term impacts to all people.
 
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