No games until 2021

My daughters best friend is Chilean. She’s 100% of European decent and very tall. On the other hand, there’s a Peruvian girl in her class that’s 100% Native American and very short....yeah, it’s complicated.

I think it’s as clear as mud if you are “mestizo” whether you qualify for affirmative action. It complicates things further that most Americans don’t have passports or travel to Latin America and don’t understand the social dynamics of those countries.

I think many Latinos/Hispanics claim their European heritage over their Indigenous because of discrimination due to caste system in all of these places from Colonialism.
Palease
 
Just an observation. It seems that the burden of proof for reopening is upon the reopeners, whereas being shutdown is the unprecedented anomaly, but is being treated as the normal course currently. How did this get flipped on us? Its ironic that those who are reluctant to reopening only have to criticize the evidence presented by the reopeners but provide no evidence to support continued closures.

The burden of proof should be on the unprecedented anomaly, not the normal.
 
What you term evasive (cause you like to stir shit up) is the simple reality. It isn’t happening...the data proves it.
You don’t understand the plight because you can in no way relate. So sit down unless called upon cause you have ZERO to add.

Have a nice day!

Nope, not sitting down.

How many people are dying because people under 19 are spreading it? We all know it’s uncommon for them to kill each other, but how many other people are they killing? How many are they infecting when they carpool to their sports? When they check into hotel rooms? When they eat out? When they go home? And while I’m asking, how many people need to die overall before you will be willing to admit that you were wrong?

Of course, the answer is that you don’t care how many people die in order for your kid to play their little kiddie sport. Her coach? Fine. School teacher? Whatevs. Her teammate’s parent? Sure, they never signed up for snacks anyway. It’s the American way to not give a s**t about anyone other than yourself which, of course, is exactly why you’re still in this predicament.
 
Just an observation. It seems that the burden of proof for reopening is upon the reopeners, whereas being shutdown is the unprecedented anomaly, but is being treated as the normal course currently. How did this get flipped on us? Its ironic that those who are reluctant to reopening only have to criticize the evidence presented by the reopeners but provide no evidence to support continued closures.

The burden of proof should be on the unprecedented anomaly, not the normal.

Well, the corrollary to this as well is that there has been a complete lack of cost/benefit analysis being done for any restrictions advocated. Particularly in California, it's been (with the exception of Disneyland because that is the thing that would break the dam wide open) which constituency group squaks the loudest and how much clout they have.
 
Nope, not sitting down.

How many people are dying because people under 19 are spreading it? We all know it’s uncommon for them to kill each other, but how many other people are they killing? How many are they infecting when they carpool to their sports? When they check into hotel rooms? When they eat out? When they go home? And while I’m asking, how many people need to die overall before you will be willing to admit that you were wrong?

Of course, the answer is that you don’t care how many people die in order for your kid to play their little kiddie sport. Her coach? Fine. School teacher? Whatevs. Her teammate’s parent? Sure, they never signed up for snacks anyway. It’s the American way to not give a s**t about anyone other than yourself which, of course, is exactly why you’re still in this predicament.
Show me a report that detail, conclusively how many have....until then, have a seat!

By the way, congratulations to Coach Bowden, 90 and beat the Rona!
 
How many people are dying because people under 19 are spreading it? We all know it’s uncommon for them to kill each other, but how many other people are they killing? How many are they infecting when they carpool to their sports? When they check into hotel rooms? When they eat out? When they go home?
Great questions, I anxiously await your answer.

(Seems to prove the point of my post of a few minutes ago)
 
Just an observation. It seems that the burden of proof for reopening is upon the reopeners, whereas being shutdown is the unprecedented anomaly, but is being treated as the normal course currently. How did this get flipped on us? Its ironic that those who are reluctant to reopening only have to criticize the evidence presented by the reopeners but provide no evidence to support continued closures.

The burden of proof should be on the unprecedented anomaly, not the normal.

220k plus dead people so far. CA continues to have a below avg. infection and death rate despite areas with the highest population densities in the entire U.S. Restrictions are savings lives despite the inordinate number of dumbs**ts who keep f**king it up for those of us who want to get back to work and soccer practice without killing people.

In the end, it doesn’t matter how compelling the evidence, because ya’ll just deny it. Otherwise, you’d answer how many dead people is an acceptable number in exchange for getting what you want.
 
220k plus dead people so far. CA continues to have a below avg. infection and death rate despite areas with the highest population densities in the entire U.S. Restrictions are savings lives despite the inordinate number of dumbs**ts who keep f**king it up for those of us who want to get back to work and soccer practice without killing people.

In the end, it doesn’t matter how compelling the evidence, because ya’ll just deny it. Otherwise, you’d answer how many dead people is an acceptable number in exchange for getting what you want.
You are so funny hahaha...you just like to stir the pot, but doesnt it get old??? Do you read any publications or do you just look at the death rate and that is the end all?
 
Just an observation. It seems that the burden of proof for reopening is upon the reopeners, whereas being shutdown is the unprecedented anomaly, but is being treated as the normal course currently. How did this get flipped on us? Its ironic that those who are reluctant to reopening only have to criticize the evidence presented by the reopeners but provide no evidence to support continued closures.

The burden of proof should be on the unprecedented anomaly, not the normal.

No evidence? Only if you read news filtered to please your preconceptions and desires.
 
Show me a report that detail, conclusively how many have....until then, have a seat!

By the way, congratulations to Coach Bowden, 90 and beat the Rona!

Congrats to Bowden, and also to Brian Lee Hutchins, this week’s Herman Cain Memorial Award winner, and first living recipient. Wifey not so lucky though. Maybe she would have survived if he didn’t believe it was a hoax and had taken her to the hospital.
 
You are so funny hahaha...you just like to stir the pot, but doesnt it get old??? Do you read any publications or do you just look at the death rate and that is the end all?

I guess this is what you people do when you can’t deny facts. Where’s @MSK357 when you need him?
 
All politics aside, I think its prudent at this point for the leagues to postpone their planned starting dates until January (although there is certainly no guarantees of starting then). Given that we're technically not allowed to even have contact at practice or scrimmage and given the interruptions of the holidays, its seems reasonable to plan on starting on January instead of hoping for approval before January and starting with a disjointed and unprepared season.

THIS!!! 100%
 
Not directed at you, Crush, but I think this comment is reflective of the thoughts of many SoCal Soccer parents this year.

I think many parents ‘feel’ they’re not getting what they paid for. Probably due to a lack of transparency at many clubs regarding club fees, combined with the letter league recruiting that goes on. It’s easy to correlate fees with games, but in most cases the majority of those club fees are for training, not league related costs.
In the past 6 months I've paid $200 to the club. About $750 to a private keeper trainer. Well worth every dollar for both. Kid trains and practices 4-5 days a week. She doesn't ask to go back to school (actually likes school from home as she wakes up at 7:30, takes a nap or grabs food whenever, and gabs on her phone) but she does wonder why we aren't playing any games. She doesn't need a big tournament, just wants some games.

Open up scrimmages. Take notes. Then decide what to do next.
 
I mean if you look at deaths, CA is doing substantially better than Texas and Florida. Pretty much night and day. Why? Not sure, but I feel pretty confident it has nothing to do with restricting youth sports to where it is today. It's also sad that the last time youth sports state guidelines were updated was on 8/3. That was close to peak. We're over 2 months from that date. I'm not on the moronic bandwagon of suggesting to recall Newsom, but it is indeed time these guidelines get updated and loosened up. The data is pretty much irrefutable.
 
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