No games until 2021

Glitterhater said:
I am probably more liberal than most on here, (or as some of you lovingly call is- "libtards",) but even I can see that it's 100% about money at this point. How in the hell can you do all the things listed above, (sand in skate parks, bags over hoops, etc,) but tell kids no sports. Families- "no gatherings" (no matter how intimate with people outside your home), yet I can belly up to a bar with every Tom Dick and Harry, Play the slots with Magda, or go to one of the many mega churches with people packed into pews? How in the ever loving hell does that make sense? Unless...... certain "people" have things to gain from those places?

We are still cautious- we wear masks, limit indoor activities, keep our immuno compromised youngest more underwraps than his peers, etc. But even some of us "libtards" think this has all gotten nuts.
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Then I hope you vote accordingly.
 
MacDre said:
I completely understand in your situation. But, I think you are the exception to the rule. Is it really that serious for the average kid to play soccer?
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I didn't say "soccer", I stated "school and organized sports". Most average kids fall into at least one of those categories. My primary point is that it appears way too common for individuals to only consider the risk, or even potential future risks of COVID without considering the very real and immediate risks of turning our children's lives upside down (see the post I responded to). Any little bit of "normal" helps. I feel blessed for our situation. My daughter had homeschooled for the prior two years. This summer she considered going to her local HS until they went virtual. Not a big deal for her. I can't say the same for all her peers.
 
Grace T. said:
For working class Latino families, the cost of playing rec soccer (either at AYSO or in Latino League) the cost is minimal. Latino League usually gets a local business to supplement the uniform costs. My cous has great difficulty keeping her kids in bikes...she never has issues with soccer but then she's not having her kids play club. Skateboards are a different story, but she worries about as they get older the type of friends it will cause them to hang out with. We all here are complaining about our kids being unable to play club soccer but the ones that are really hurting are the ones that play AYSO and the ones that play Latino League
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Who cares.
I am sure they would be better off in their country of origin.
 
Keepermom2 said:
The risk isn't unknown. We have scientific evidence that shows us the risk of outdoor activities. We now have historical data from countless States who have started to play soccer games and/or never stopped playing soccer games. We also have improved treatments that you don't hear about on the news but our local medical facility has talked about the success they have had with several treatments. And they proudly documented treating 750 patients with no deaths.

I asked my 14 year old daughter the question of why it was so important to play soccer as opposed to learning a "no risk" activity that she could do on her own and her answer was..."Why would I want to do another activity other than the one I have been doing my whole life?" She added...being back to playing has been good for her mentally. She has this great nature of taking everything in stride so that answer was a bit surprising to me.

My daughter is passionate about soccer like nothing else. She has put a great deal of work into becoming increasingly better at her craft for years. The first private training I took her to 4 months from the last game she played she came out of it crying and saying...."I am never going to be where I was at". She has put in so much work and sacrifice because she loves it like nothing else. Sometimes after a great training or an active game it takes her a bit to come down because she is so amped on adreniline. There is nothing she does that replaces that for her. I believe many of our kids are the same.

My daughter did take surf lessons this summer (end of August) as we do every summer on our beach camp trip but this year was different. Our normal surf lesson guy told us he was banned from his standard location because of COVID restrictions so we had to go to another location where the waves weren't conducive for learning how to surf and it ended up scaring the hell out of my daughter because she got banged by the board and struggled getting up from a big wave. So I guess she is left with skateboarding which she also already does once a year when we go camping and running which my daughter finds no joy in.

So why are we in a rush to go back given I am high risk? Because the risk of catching and spreading the virus playing soccer is so very low if at all with appropriate precautions, my daughter deserves to have some joy in her life, and I so very much love watching her in goal. It brings me great joy!
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I personally believe every child allowed to be born should be able to do as they please, within reason of course. They have to find their passion but they also have to be born first and that's getting harder and harder. What I mean is this. If you want to surf, surf. you want to play hoops, hoop it up. If you want stop every goal from going into the goal, play goal keeper. If you you want to play all sports, then by all means play all sports. The fact is, we should be free to do whatever we want. Its called freedom for a reason but so many dont want kids to play sports in California. Kids are getting the short end of the stick and the asshole adults are using them as pawns. BS and I would not mess with kids or life for that matter. I have a 200 lb weight to strap around anyone's neck and I can toss your ass in the ocean if you like. Dont fu*k with the kids life assholes. Biggest selfish assholes I have ever met in my life. Happy Tuesday to all and let's hope the value of everyone's life is as important as the next Elitist. I heard the word "illegitimate" a lot yesterday. The definition of illegitimate is a person who was born to unmarried parents, or something that is incorrectly decided, or is not in accordance with the rules or laws. A baby who is born to a single mother who is not married is an example of a baby that would be described as illegitimate.
Basically, the little bastard shouldn't be allowed to be born. My adopted mother, who adopted and fostered 8 kids in the 60s was herself adopted after spending time in Ohio's foster care from 1919-1921. Her biological mother was a prostitute and my mom was given to the state as a little bastard. It's amazing to me how a little prostitute bastard baby could be an angel who saved so many kids lives. I love you mom and thank you for adopting me and thank to my biological mama for denying yourself 9 months so I can be born. Thank you!!!!
 
Feinstein said she went to Stanford in the 50s and saw all the girls taking trips to Mexico to have abortion. This is deep for me so I hope you can follow along. My biological mother in 1966 was on her way to Mexico as well to abort me. She had much, much pain and saw me as a problem and not a precious life. No judgement from me, just sharing the truth. My adopted mother got a call from a minister in LA that had my biological mother at an impasse in her life. My mom moved her into our house and gave her place to stay and help me be born. This is deep stuff folks.
 
thefederalist.com

CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks

Over 70 percent of the case-patients who were contaminated with the virus fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.
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A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.

“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public,” the report stated.

In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they “often” wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus."
 
@EOTL and @messy and @espola I challenge each one of you to a boxing match. Big gloves so no one really gets fu^ked up. I have to fight now guys. I can;t take it anymore. I will set this up at a park out in Ladera Ranch. Rich one of you wants to go first? I'm dead serious and please grant me this one wish. If you kic my ass, I will never post here ever. If I kick your ass, you can still post all you want. What a day listen to DF and all the reasons why the Elitist girls in the 50s going to Sandford surely can;t get prego. Oh no, that would be no bueno so kill baby. WTF happen to us? I can;t believe what I'm hearing.

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thefederalist.com

Gallup Poll: Republicans Dramatically Less Terrified Of Coronavirus Than Democrats

A new analysis of Gallup data out last week shows a stark partisan contrast in how the public perceives the coronavirus threat to their personal health.
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According to data from the Gallup Panel conducting research on public opinion throughout the coronavirus pandemic, Republicans were far less terrified of the novel Chinese virus than Democrats.

Seventy percent of Democratic men, and 80 percent of Democratic women were “worried about getting the coronavirus” while only 20 percent of Republican men and 29 percent of Republican women reported the same. Those concerns, the data show, has translated into impacting their behavior. Seventy percent of Democratic men and 73 percent of Democratic women reported avoiding public placed over fear of the virus, and only 31 percent of Republican men and 38 percent of Republican women repeated the behavior.
 
www.news.com.au

WHO backflips on virus stance by condemning lockdowns

The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies.
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“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
 
Desert Hound said:
www.news.com.au

WHO backflips on virus stance by condemning lockdowns

The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies.
www.news.com.au www.news.com.au


“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
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I've never seen so many goal post and change with the wind cheaters in my life. This is not about what you all thought it was about. Oh no, we all know what's up now. The gig is up.

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Keepermom2 said:
The risk isn't unknown. We have scientific evidence that shows us the risk of outdoor activities. We now have historical data from countless States who have started to play soccer games and/or never stopped playing soccer games. We also have improved treatments that you don't hear about on the news but our local medical facility has talked about the success they have had with several treatments. And they proudly documented treating 750 patients with no deaths.

I asked my 14 year old daughter the question of why it was so important to play soccer as opposed to learning a "no risk" activity that she could do on her own and her answer was..."Why would I want to do another activity other than the one I have been doing my whole life?" She added...being back to playing has been good for her mentally. She has this great nature of taking everything in stride so that answer was a bit surprising to me.

My daughter is passionate about soccer like nothing else. She has put a great deal of work into becoming increasingly better at her craft for years. The first private training I took her to 4 months from the last game she played she came out of it crying and saying...."I am never going to be where I was at". She has put in so much work and sacrifice because she loves it like nothing else. Sometimes after a great training or an active game it takes her a bit to come down because she is so amped on adreniline. There is nothing she does that replaces that for her. I believe many of our kids are the same.

My daughter did take surf lessons this summer (end of August) as we do every summer on our beach camp trip but this year was different. Our normal surf lesson guy told us he was banned from his standard location because of COVID restrictions so we had to go to another location where the waves weren't conducive for learning how to surf and it ended up scaring the hell out of my daughter because she got banged by the board and struggled getting up from a big wave. So I guess she is left with skateboarding which she also already does once a year when we go camping and running which my daughter finds no joy in.

So why are we in a rush to go back given I am high risk? Because the risk of catching and spreading the virus playing soccer is so very low if at all with appropriate precautions, my daughter deserves to have some joy in her life, and I so very much love watching her in goal. It brings me great joy!
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I have some serious doubts as to the veracity of your statement regarding unknown risk.

COVID sucks for all but complaining doesn’t help. I guess I’m a make lemonade out of lemons type of guy. Isn’t mental fortitude an important quality for a keeper? What about the adage “if it doesn’t kill you, it will make you stronger?”
 
Desert Hound said:
“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.

“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”

“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
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The tide does finally seem to be turning and team reality is on the upswing, particularly when it comes to restrictions on children. It will be interesting to see what the luminaries on team panic do in response to this growing push back....do they admit they were wrong or do they push back even harder particularly in light of the shifting public opinion? Sadly I think we know what the answer is in California.
 
Keepermom2 said:
The risk isn't unknown. We have scientific evidence that shows us the risk of outdoor activities. We now have historical data from countless States who have started to play soccer games and/or never stopped playing soccer games. We also have improved treatments that you don't hear about on the news but our local medical facility has talked about the success they have had with several treatments. And they proudly documented treating 750 patients with no deaths.

I asked my 14 year old daughter the question of why it was so important to play soccer as opposed to learning a "no risk" activity that she could do on her own and her answer was..."Why would I want to do another activity other than the one I have been doing my whole life?" She added...being back to playing has been good for her mentally. She has this great nature of taking everything in stride so that answer was a bit surprising to me.

My daughter is passionate about soccer like nothing else. She has put a great deal of work into becoming increasingly better at her craft for years. The first private training I took her to 4 months from the last game she played she came out of it crying and saying...."I am never going to be where I was at". She has put in so much work and sacrifice because she loves it like nothing else. Sometimes after a great training or an active game it takes her a bit to come down because she is so amped on adreniline. There is nothing she does that replaces that for her. I believe many of our kids are the same.

My daughter did take surf lessons this summer (end of August) as we do every summer on our beach camp trip but this year was different. Our normal surf lesson guy told us he was banned from his standard location because of COVID restrictions so we had to go to another location where the waves weren't conducive for learning how to surf and it ended up scaring the hell out of my daughter because she got banged by the board and struggled getting up from a big wave. So I guess she is left with skateboarding which she also already does once a year when we go camping and running which my daughter finds no joy in.

So why are we in a rush to go back given I am high risk? Because the risk of catching and spreading the virus playing soccer is so very low if at all with appropriate precautions, my daughter deserves to have some joy in her life, and I so very much love watching her in goal. It brings me great joy!
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So where are all of these closed parks. There are 2 state parks by my house and both are open (Benicia & East Bay Regional) I’ve also been to several city parks too (Benicia, Concord, Walnut Creek, Hercules, Vallejo, and Berkeley). Santa Cruz, Mt. Lassen, and Tahoe (CA side) all open too.
But, if city parks are closed, what does that have to do with Sacramento?
 
MacDre said:
I have some serious doubts as to the veracity of your statement regarding unknown risk.

COVID sucks for all but complaining doesn’t help. I guess I’m a make lemonade out of lemons type of guy. Isn’t mental fortitude an important quality for a keeper? What about the adage “if it doesn’t kill you, it will make you stronger?”
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Mac,

With all do respect, your only child is 12. Please don’t come around here preaching like you know or can relate to the trials and tribulations of families who have more than one child that are older and have completely different issues than a pre-teen kid.
 
Grace T. said:
The tide does finally seem to be turning and team reality is on the upswing, particularly when it comes to restrictions on children. It will be interesting to see what the luminaries on team panic do in response to this growing push back....do they admit they were wrong or do they push back even harder particularly in light of the shifting public opinion? Sadly I think we know what the answer is in California.
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It would seem that as the scientists really look at what they are finding, many are now realizing much of what the world has done has not been correct.
 
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