No games until 2021

[notintheface]

Then age 12 hits and they are in the bigger goal. Suddenly the kids too have developed speed on their shots and aren't hitting it directly at the goalkeeper anymore.

This times a million. SCDSL allows that U8 team to jump immediately to flight 1 at U9 where they will be challenged immediately by other teams with "that one hyper athletic kid". Let those teams trade breakaways all day long. Let the teams who don't have the hyper athletic kid play at flight 2 or flight 3 and be competitive against each other. Don't enforce some kind of strict yearly up/down movement just for some sense of parental accomplishment, that's insanity.

 

[jpmorris123]

I’m from the MOST DANGEROUS hood in California...learn about North Richmond homie.

ok bro. we won't roll through your 3,500 person pocket by the Bay

 

[notintheface]

Coaches/Teams are always looking to move their team higher and higher. We now have Flight 3, Flight 2. Flight 1. Flight 1 champions, Flight 1 Discovery??????? That's insane and it's just a money grab.

I absolutely 100% agree with this. Name the flights after colors, or something that doesn't imply tiering. Blue / Red / Orange / whatever. Yes there will still be status chasing, you can never get rid of that as long as there are helicopter parents, but remove incentives where you can. No parent will ever be "well my kid plays in Flight Blue" during a dinner party.

Regarding under performing teams, they need to have at least a .500 win rate if they want to move up to the next tier. Makes no sense to go 2-12 as flight 3 to then move to flight 2 and go 0-14. Stay in Flight 3 one more year to get experience. Kids dont care about flights as much as parents do. Kids do care if they keep losing every year because the coach decided that they can compete at a higher level.

I absolutely 100% agree with this. If you are not doing well in flight 3, you definitely won't do well in flight 2. There should be no pressure from clubs on the coaches to push their kids up and if there is, you should look long and hard at your club, because there are clubs out there that do not do this. I sympathize about the coach not recognizing the true level of the kids-- it's never fun to be at the bottom of the table and it is very hard to get out of that hole. IMHO that's where the club pass can help. Bring in a superstar kid from a younger age group to play up and help out the flight 3 team-- everyone wins.

 

[crush]

I absolutely 100% agree with this. Name the flights after colors, or something that doesn't imply tiering. Blue / Red / Orange / whatever. Yes there will still be status chasing, you can never get rid of that as long as there are helicopter parents, but remove incentives where you can. No parent will ever be "well my kid plays in Flight Blue" during a dinner party.



I absolutely 100% agree with this. If you are not doing well in flight 3, you definitely won't do well in flight 2. There should be no pressure from clubs on the coaches to push their kids up and if there is, you should look long and hard at your club, because there are clubs out there that do not do this. I sympathize about the coach not recognizing the true level of the kids-- it's never fun to be at the bottom of the table and it is very hard to get out of that hole. IMHO that's where the club pass can help. Bring in a superstar kid from a younger age group to play up and help out the flight 3 team-- everyone wins.

"Pay me what you want to hear and I will gladly tell you what you want to hear." Not in my Face, who said this? Btw, my dd played up two levels one time and she was hated by the parents of the older girls in flight three. They were pissed and so were the player. No way...

 

[Footy30]

Right now yes.

I would bet that the league and clubs try to do the following.

ECNL showcase. Have So Cal teams play each other and use that as league games.

In other tournaments/showcases out of state try to have So Cal teams play each other and use as league games.

Not ideal, but would be a way to get the games in they need.

Not ideal is correct.... like I said all the NV and AZ people are probably rolling their eyes at me but damn that's a lot of flights, hotels, driving, etc. but if that's the way the league goes, then that's the way it goes and we will oblige .... AZ and NV will get a break in travel for a change, so that'll be nice for those teams.

 

[crush]

Not ideal is correct.... like I said all the NV and AZ people are probably rolling their eyes at me but damn that's a lot of flights, hotels, driving, etc. but if that's the way the league goes, then that's the way it goes and we will oblige .... AZ and NV will get a break in travel for a change, so that'll be nice for those teams.

Footy, awesome attitude. I feel the same way

 

[kickingandscreaming]

The immediate risk is pretty well pegged by now. Nobody has enough experience yet to know the long-term risk.

What are the short, medium, and long-term emotional risks for keeping the kids out of school and out of organized sports? We know they are more prone to suicide the longer they don't lead normal lives. It's already happening despite all the opportunities to skateboard, surf, bike ride, etc. So, what's the greater risk, the one we know exists, or the one we fear might exist in the long term?

The kids see all the other people out at the park ignoring the rules they are supposed to follow. From my perspective, these "restrictions" are a charade put on by politicians that want to be seen as SJWs. I say charade because they enforce none of their distancing rules in the parks in NorCal as far as I can see. If they actually enforced the rules, I'd consider them legitimate SJWs. One thing for sure, they are definitely teaching our kids to be cynical about governmental actions and that if you can get away with it, you don't have to follow the rules.

 

[MacDre]

ok bro. we won't roll through your 3,500 person pocket by the Bay

That’s what most gangsters in Oakland and Compton would advise. But you can watch Coach Carter to learn about the nicer neighborhoods in Richmond, CA.

 

[Speed]

I think this is hilarious

 

[EOTL]

What are the short, medium, and long-term emotional risks for keeping the kids out of school and out of organized sports? We know they are more prone to suicide the longer they don't lead normal lives. It's already happening despite all the opportunities to skateboard, surf, bike ride, etc. So, what's the greater risk, the one we know exists, or the one we fear might exist in the long term?

The kids see all the other people out at the park ignoring the rules they are supposed to follow. From my perspective, these "restrictions" are a charade put on by politicians that want to be seen as SJWs. I say charade because they enforce none of their distancing rules in the parks in NorCal as far as I can see. If they actually enforced the rules, I'd consider them legitimate SJWs. One thing for sure, they are definitely teaching our kids to be cynical about governmental actions and that if you can get away with it, you don't have to follow the rules.

You ask your question as if the emotional health of your children is outside your control. The emotional risks for your children are no greater than in the absence of the pandemic if you get your s**t together and stop blaming other people for things that are your responsibility as a parent. Step up to the plate for god’s sake.

And you are blaming others for making your kids cynical about government when it is very clear from your post that you’re the one who is doing that.

 

[MacDre]

What are the short, medium, and long-term emotional risks for keeping the kids out of school and out of organized sports? We know they are more prone to suicide the longer they don't lead normal lives. It's already happening despite all the opportunities to skateboard, surf, bike ride, etc. So, what's the greater risk, the one we know exists, or the one we fear might exist in the long term?

The kids see all the other people out at the park ignoring the rules they are supposed to follow. From my perspective, these "restrictions" are a charade put on by politicians that want to be seen as SJWs. I say charade because they enforce none of their distancing rules in the parks in NorCal as far as I can see. If they actually enforced the rules, I'd consider them legitimate SJWs. One thing for sure, they are definitely teaching our kids to be cynical about governmental actions and that if you can get away with it, you don't have to follow the rules.

I completely understand in your situation. But, I think you are the exception to the rule. Is it really that serious for the average kid to play soccer?

 

[N00B]

Yes! Thank you for finally exposing these fat cat soccer moguls for what they are. They’re raking in money hand over fist and it’s so unfair! We need to stop them in their tracks by socializing youth soccer!

Doesn't this already exist... hint, it comes with a socially equitable participation trophy.

 

[lafalafa]

Doesn't this already exist... hint, it comes with a socially equitable participation trophy.

Club soccer turned into everyone can play if they pay many years ago.

Tryouts are for your wallet, several social wanted posts lately looking for a couple more "players" for a strong flight xyz team.

Trouble is all the taxpayers are subsidizing youth sports but only limited numbers are getting "service".

Avoiding taxes via non profit, taking hundreds of thousands in ppp loans, using public facilities (parks, schools, colleges), and still charge thousands to parents to participate is a pretty good racket. Talk about your double and triple dipping.

Coaches deserve to get paid just like teachers but the reexamining of how your tax dollars are being used and exploited by some organizations could use a second look and I've heard that's one of things going on in CA, when things open up more there well could be some changes in store.

 

[N00B]

Club soccer turned into everyone can play if they pay many years ago.

Tryouts are for your wallet, several social wanted posts lately looking for a couple more "players" for a strong flight xyz team.

Trouble is all the taxpayers are subsidizing youth sports but only limited numbers are getting "service".

Avoiding taxes via non profit, taking hundreds of thousands in ppp loans, using public facilities (parks, schools, colleges), and still charge thousands to parents to participate is a pretty good racket. Talk about your double and triple dipping.

Coaches deserve to get paid just like teachers but the reexamining of how your tax dollars are being used and exploited by some organizations could use a second look and I've heard that's one of things going on in CA, when things open up more there well could be some changes in store.

Just an observation... but if coaches deserve to be paid like teachers, than you could make a very similar statement in inverse.

Replace ‘club soccer’ with ‘Education’ and ‘youth sports’ with ‘schools’.

 

[dad4]

I completely understand in your situation. But, I think you are the exception to the rule. Is it really that serious for the average kid to play soccer?

It's more than soccer. We poured sand on the skate parks, put plastic bags over the basketball hoops, padlocked the baseball and softball fields, closed the swimming pools, roped off the playgrounds, and generally shut down every outdoor space where kids might have fun.

Meanwhile, casinos are open, restaurants are open, bars are opening, theaters are open, churches are open, and airports are open. All of these indoor activities are higher risk than the outdoor activities we shut down for the kids.

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

You ask your question as if the emotional health of your children is outside your control. The emotional risks for your children are no greater than in the absence of the pandemic if you get your s**t together and stop blaming other people for things that are your responsibility as a parent. Step up to the plate for god’s sake.

And you are blaming others for making your kids cynical about government when it is very clear from your post that you’re the one who is doing that.

when the pandemic started, we quarantined for many months and kept the kids busy with hikes. Once hikes got boring for them, we moved to running, once they got bored of running, we moved to cycling. Now we allow them to see their friends and we’ve relaxed our stance on family visit rules.


It is not about allowing kids to play soccer but more to return to some level of normality. Even this week the World Health Organization is now saying that quarantine and isolation is no longer the answer.
You do know that there’s an increase in calls this year of 60% into suicide hotlines.

So step up and do your research!

Covid is not going away this year or next year. We can not isolate our kids for another 12 months.

 

[Glitterhater]

when the pandemic started, we quarantined for many months and kept the kids busy with hikes. Once hikes got boring for them, we moved to running, once they got bored of running, we moved to cycling. Now we allow them to see their friends and we’ve relaxed our stance on family visit rules.


It is not about allowing kids to play soccer but more to return to some level of normality. Even this week the World Health Organization is now saying that quarantine and isolation is no longer the answer.
You do know that there’s an increase in calls this year of 60% into suicide hotlines.

So step up and do your research!

Covid is not going away this year or next year. We can not isolate our kids for another 12 months.

I am probably more liberal than most on here, (or as some of you lovingly call is- "libtards",) but even I can see that it's 100% about money at this point. How in the hell can you do all the things listed above, (sand in skate parks, bags over hoops, etc,) but tell kids no sports. Families- "no gatherings" (no matter how intimate with people outside your home), yet I can belly up to a bar with every Tom Dick and Harry, Play the slots with Magda, or go to one of the many mega churches with people packed into pews? How in the ever loving hell does that make sense? Unless...... certain "people" have things to gain from those places?

We are still cautious- we wear masks, limit indoor activities, keep our immuno compromised youngest more underwraps than his peers, etc. But even some of us "libtards" think this has all gotten nuts.

 

[chiefs]

It's more than soccer. We poured sand on the skate parks, put plastic bags over the basketball hoops, padlocked the baseball and softball fields, closed the swimming pools, roped off the playgrounds, and generally shut down every outdoor space where kids might have fun.

Meanwhile, casinos are open, restaurants are open, bars are opening, theaters are open, churches are open, and airports are open. All of these indoor activities are higher risk than the outdoor activities we shut down for the kids.

Thanks for reminding all how deep this insanity went with it all directed at children.

 

[Kicker4Life]

The risk is the unknown. What’s the benefit of rushing back to soccer? Again, why can’t kids ride bike, skateboards, surf etc for physical activity?

I understand the rush back to soccer from the coaches perspective because we are talking about their livelihood and I am very sympathetic to that.
However, I have yet to hear 1 valid reason for rushing back to soccer for kids because it’s not in their best interest. Learning how to skate, rides bikes, and surf etc. is in the best interest of kids until we have more information.

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are your kids?

 

[Keepermom2]

The risk is the unknown. What’s the benefit of rushing back to soccer? Again, why can’t kids ride bike, skateboards, surf etc for physical activity?

I understand the rush back to soccer from the coaches perspective because we are talking about their livelihood and I am very sympathetic to that.
However, I have yet to hear 1 valid reason for rushing back to soccer for kids because it’s not in their best interest. Learning how to skate, rides bikes, and surf etc. is in the best interest of kids until we have more information.

The risk isn't unknown. We have scientific evidence that shows us the risk of outdoor activities. We now have historical data from countless States who have started to play soccer games and/or never stopped playing soccer games. We also have improved treatments that you don't hear about on the news but our local medical facility has talked about the success they have had with several treatments. And they proudly documented treating 750 patients with no deaths.

I asked my 14 year old daughter the question of why it was so important to play soccer as opposed to learning a "no risk" activity that she could do on her own and her answer was..."Why would I want to do another activity other than the one I have been doing my whole life?" She added...being back to playing has been good for her mentally. She has this great nature of taking everything in stride so that answer was a bit surprising to me.

My daughter is passionate about soccer like nothing else. She has put a great deal of work into becoming increasingly better at her craft for years. The first private training I took her to 4 months from the last game she played she came out of it crying and saying...."I am never going to be where I was at". She has put in so much work and sacrifice because she loves it like nothing else. Sometimes after a great training or an active game it takes her a bit to come down because she is so amped on adreniline. There is nothing she does that replaces that for her. I believe many of our kids are the same.

My daughter did take surf lessons this summer (end of August) as we do every summer on our beach camp trip but this year was different. Our normal surf lesson guy told us he was banned from his standard location because of COVID restrictions so we had to go to another location where the waves weren't conducive for learning how to surf and it ended up scaring the hell out of my daughter because she got banged by the board and struggled getting up from a big wave. So I guess she is left with skateboarding which she also already does once a year when we go camping and running which my daughter finds no joy in.

So why are we in a rush to go back given I am high risk? Because the risk of catching and spreading the virus playing soccer is so very low if at all with appropriate precautions, my daughter deserves to have some joy in her life, and I so very much love watching her in goal. It brings me great joy!

 

[espola]

We also have improved treatments that you don't hear about on the news but our local medical facility has talked about the success they have had with several treatments. And they proudly documented treating 750 patients with no deaths.

Tell us more about this,