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  • SD under day camp guidance

    Votes: 10 18.9%

  • SD without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • OC under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OC without day camp guidance

    Votes: 3 5.7%

  • LA under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • LA without day camp guidance

    Votes: 1 1.9%

  • OTH under day camp guidance

    Votes: 7 13.2%

  • OTH without day camp guidance

    Votes: 2 3.8%

  • ALL No dates have be given

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Tournament or full game play in July or August.

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
espola said:
The sovereign nation casino I attend checks everyone's temperature at the entrance, requires appropriate masks for all (no bandanas, for example), has shut down almost half the machines, and has reduced the number of seats at the table games.
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Wow. You say don't have outdoor soccer games but you go indoors for gambling. Crazy. Yes masks help. No they aren't 100%. Indoors up to 20x worse than outdoors.

Research suggests outdoor gatherings are safer than indoor events
According to Erin Bromage, a comparative immunologist and biology professor at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, some research has shown that "[o]utside is definitely safer" than indoor gatherings when it comes to potentially transmitting or contracting the new coronavirus.

For example, the New York Times reports that, in a study that was released preprint and hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, researchers found that the chance of coronavirus transmission occurring indoors was nearly 20 times higher when compared with outdoors.

Further, in another preprint study that hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, researchers reviewed 7,000 coronavirus cases in China and found that just one of those cases stemmed from outdoor transmission, and the transmission likely occurred during a prolonged, face-to-face conversation.

Julian Tang, a virologist at the University of Leicester, explained that, generally, the more open a space, the less likely the novel coronavirus can become concentrated in one area in the air and then inhaled by another person, which can result in infection.

And this.

www.forbes.com

Do I Really Need To Wear A Mask Outdoors? Here’s The Science

Should you wear a face mask outdoors to help stop Coronavirus from spreading? The scientific research so far suggests that it's probably not necessary, but your decision should also depend on where you're going.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
socalkdg said:
The smoke kills the virus. Our kids just need to smoke and play at the same time.
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Vape & Play!!! I still can't believe they sell this sh*t!!! They market flavors to da kids too. Kids are so bored with no sports and have nothing else to do but sit at home in isolation and vape away or do something else because you can;t play sports. Time to open up the fields. Maybe we can lease the fields from the tribal nations out in Pala? Oceans 11 Soccer Complex? This would be heaven for me. Watch dear goat (dg) play and then go play Texas Hold um. A great day that would be :)

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crush said:
Vape & Play!!! I still can't believe they sell this sh*t!!! They market flavors to da kids too. Kids are so bored with no sports and have nothing else to do but sit at home in isolation and vape away or do something else because you can;t play sports. Time to open up the fields. Maybe we can lease the fields from the tribal nations out in Pala? Oceans 11 Soccer Complex? This would be heaven for me. Watch dear goat (dg) play and then go play Texas Hold um. A great day that would be :)

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What are you talking about? Those kids who are into it, were vaping when all sports were wide open!
 
MSK357 said:
Looks like espola is part of that crowd. You should start lecturing him.
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My sweat adopted mother lived in Indio. Back when poker was hot, I would go out and visit her for two days. I went to the casino right next to hwy 111 one night and I never went back. It was a different crowd then my home card club Oceans 11. I'm super friendly and talk to everyone about everything at the tables. Life of the party so to be speak. Well, their was a few locals that didnt like all my chatting and basically told me to stfu. You see, I slow played pocket aces. One guy had pocket 55. We both hit on the flop and it was on. This guy thought I had A and K because I acted and played that way....lol I took all his money and it was a lot. I tricked him and he was pissed. I got up to cash out and he followed me where you exchange your chips for hundred dollar bills. He was so angry and told me it's rude to walk away after you take the guys money. I told him where I come from you go home a winner and he told me to never come back again and gave me a look that made me never go back. I kid you not!!!
 
Eagle33 said:
What are you talking about? Those kids who are into it, were vaping when all sports were wide open!
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I understand that to be true as well Eagle. If I have to wear a mask all day when i go out, that sh*t needs to be outlawed like yesterday. Luis put that visual of what heaven will be like and that was interesting. I've lost 19 lbs since March. My wife warned me two years ago about some virus thing that will hit the world hard. Popcorn lung. I hate vape!!!
 
crush said:
Vape & Play!!! I still can't believe they sell this sh*t!!! They market flavors to da kids too. Kids are so bored with no sports and have nothing else to do but sit at home in isolation and vape away or do something else because you can;t play sports. Time to open up the fields. Maybe we can lease the fields from the tribal nations out in Pala? Oceans 11 Soccer Complex? This would be heaven for me. Watch dear goat (dg) play and then go play Texas Hold um. A great day that would be :)

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Tribal lands? I've got a better idea. All of those cruise ships are sitting idle. Let's roll out some turf and sail a few miles off the coast and play in international waters.
 
The Outlaw said:
Am I the only one that snickers a little everytime I drive by this place?

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I was stuck looking at that for almost an hour. You see it far away and then the traffic stops. Everyone is out shopping too at the outlet stores and of course the river rafters are all coming back from the river. I was going to go the other way but GPS said that was 30 minutes longer. I made a big mistake because it lied to me big time......
 
dad4 said:
If you are going into a casino at all, you are still a higher risk for transmission than a child who attends a scrimmage.

Indoor, long time period, high risk age group. Even with masks and temp checks, what you are doing is riskier to other people than a weekend scrimmage.
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Source?
 
socalkdg said:
Wow. You say don't have outdoor soccer games but you go indoors for gambling. Crazy. Yes masks help. No they aren't 100%. Indoors up to 20x worse than outdoors.

Research suggests outdoor gatherings are safer than indoor events
According to Erin Bromage, a comparative immunologist and biology professor at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, some research has shown that "[o]utside is definitely safer" than indoor gatherings when it comes to potentially transmitting or contracting the new coronavirus.

For example, the New York Times reports that, in a study that was released preprint and hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, researchers found that the chance of coronavirus transmission occurring indoors was nearly 20 times higher when compared with outdoors.

Further, in another preprint study that hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, researchers reviewed 7,000 coronavirus cases in China and found that just one of those cases stemmed from outdoor transmission, and the transmission likely occurred during a prolonged, face-to-face conversation.

Julian Tang, a virologist at the University of Leicester, explained that, generally, the more open a space, the less likely the novel coronavirus can become concentrated in one area in the air and then inhaled by another person, which can result in infection.

And this.

www.forbes.com

Do I Really Need To Wear A Mask Outdoors? Here’s The Science

Should you wear a face mask outdoors to help stop Coronavirus from spreading? The scientific research so far suggests that it's probably not necessary, but your decision should also depend on where you're going.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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What did I say?
 
socalkdg said:
Wow. You say don't have outdoor soccer games but you go indoors for gambling. Crazy. Yes masks help. No they aren't 100%. Indoors up to 20x worse than outdoors.

Research suggests outdoor gatherings are safer than indoor events
According to Erin Bromage, a comparative immunologist and biology professor at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, some research has shown that "[o]utside is definitely safer" than indoor gatherings when it comes to potentially transmitting or contracting the new coronavirus.

For example, the New York Times reports that, in a study that was released preprint and hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, researchers found that the chance of coronavirus transmission occurring indoors was nearly 20 times higher when compared with outdoors.

Further, in another preprint study that hasn't yet been peer-reviewed, researchers reviewed 7,000 coronavirus cases in China and found that just one of those cases stemmed from outdoor transmission, and the transmission likely occurred during a prolonged, face-to-face conversation.

Julian Tang, a virologist at the University of Leicester, explained that, generally, the more open a space, the less likely the novel coronavirus can become concentrated in one area in the air and then inhaled by another person, which can result in infection.

And this.

www.forbes.com

Do I Really Need To Wear A Mask Outdoors? Here’s The Science

Should you wear a face mask outdoors to help stop Coronavirus from spreading? The scientific research so far suggests that it's probably not necessary, but your decision should also depend on where you're going.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
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Your quote stopped before it got to this --

"But that doesn't mean that outdoor gatherings are without risk, experts say."
 
There is risk in everything we do. Due to a lack of leadership and definitive policy, what has happened is that we have all been forced to make individual decisions about how much risk we are willing to each take in our daily lives based on our own interpretation of the data. For me, I think that there is risk outdoors but it is significantly less that indoors. For me, I would assess the risk of being at an outdoor soccer game socially distanced as much less than being inside in a casino no matter what protocols are deployed there.
 
sdb said:
There is risk in everything we do. Due to a lack of leadership and definitive policy, what has happened is that we have all been forced to make individual decisions about how much risk we are willing to each take in our daily lives based on our own interpretation of the data. For me, I think that there is risk outdoors but it is significantly less that indoors. For me, I would assess the risk of being at an outdoor soccer game socially distanced as much less than being inside in a casino no matter what protocols are deployed there.
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I was responding to the comment that the sovereign nations can make up their own rules.
 
sdb said:
There is risk in everything we do. Due to a lack of leadership and definitive policy, what has happened is that we have all been forced to make individual decisions about how much risk we are willing to each take in our daily lives based on our own interpretation of the data. For me, I think that there is risk outdoors but it is significantly less that indoors. For me, I would assess the risk of being at an outdoor soccer game socially distanced as much less than being inside in a casino no matter what protocols are deployed there.
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Remember the public restroom scare of the late 80's early 90's. They thought you could get AIDS from a toilet seat. No one had an away game for years.
 
espola said:
Source?
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You need a source to prove that prolonged indoor gatherings of people over 60 are a bad idea right now?

What, have you been living under a rock?

Indoor? Socaldg just gave you the citation that indoor is 20x as dangerous as outdoor.

Elderly? Hound repeatedly gives us the CDC numbers that people over 70 are orders of magnitude more likely to die of covid than young people.

Duration? Here is a cdc paper that explains that longer exposure times are worse than shorter exposure times.


You like casinos so you don’t like the answer, but there is no way going to a casino is at all consistent with trying to limit the spread of coronavirus.

Enjoy your next trip to the Chumash Coronavirus Center, but know it for what it is.
 
dad4 said:
You need a source to prove that prolonged indoor gatherings of people over 60 are a bad idea right now?

What, have you been living under a rock?

Indoor? Socaldg just gave you the citation that indoor is 20x as dangerous as outdoor.

Elderly? Hound repeatedly gives us the CDC numbers that people over 70 are orders of magnitude more likely to die of covid than young people.

Duration? Here is a cdc paper that explains that longer exposure times are worse than shorter exposure times.


You like casinos so you don’t like the answer, but there is no way going to a casino is at all consistent with trying to limit the spread of coronavirus.

Enjoy your next trip to the Chumash Coronavirus Center, but know it for what it is.
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I asked for a source for this -- "If you are going into a casino at all, you are still a higher risk for transmission than a child who attends a scrimmage."
You responded with a lot of handwaving.

First, it's Sycuan. Second, I don't like casinos, necessarily - I only play with the money my wife gives me from her bingo nights - she gives me her left-over cashout vouchers. Also, it's the closest air-conditioned place I can go to where I can sit quietly for an hour or two. I play in the non-smoking room and if anyone starts coughing near me I cash out and go home.

I play 5c video draw poker, and I play 10 games at a time, so it is essentially 50c a bet. The draw poker games at least allow me to have some decision-making in the game, unlike the slot machine and keno players who just keep on pushing those buttons (but they are only playing 1c per bet, so there's that). The Sycuan machines pay 5x for a flush and 8x for a full house, which are pretty good returns for a casino (6x and 9x are supposed to be pretty close to even). Some of their newer machines allow a double-or-nothing high/low card bet after any winning poker hand - where else are you going to find an even bet in a casino?
 
espola said:
I asked for a source for this -- "If you are going into a casino at all, you are still a higher risk for transmission than a child who attends a scrimmage."
You responded with a lot of handwaving.

First, it's Sycuan. Second, I don't like casinos, necessarily - I only play with the money my wife gives me from her bingo nights - she gives me her left-over cashout vouchers. Also, it's the closest air-conditioned place I can go to where I can sit quietly for an hour or two. I play in the non-smoking room and if anyone starts coughing near me I cash out and go home.

I play 5c video draw poker, and I play 10 games at a time, so it is essentially 50c a bet. The draw poker games at least allow me to have some decision-making in the game, unlike the slot machine and keno players who just keep on pushing those buttons (but they are only playing 1c per bet, so there's that). The Sycuan machines pay 5x for a flush and 8x for a full house, which are pretty good returns for a casino (6x and 9x are supposed to be pretty close to even). Some of their newer machines allow a double-or-nothing high/low card bet after any winning poker hand - where else are you going to find an even bet in a casino?
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Look COVID nazis! Espola is spreading the virus! Tell him he needs to "Stay Home, Stay Safe" or else hes selfishly killing people. lol.
 
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