Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

thedudeabides said:
Good point that many here are overlooking. We just don't have definitive data on the impact on adults when cases spike among children and young adults. I heard some players came back from Arizona tourney with covid. I'm sure the players will be fine but what if their coach now has it? What about the parents? Just too many unknowns.
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which team or club had people come back with it?Without details that’s a pretty big rumor to drop. And how would they know already? You shouldn’t get tested until 6 days after exposure. So if they got home Sunday night they wouldn’t have even tested yet. Let alone tested positive. And if they came home Sunday and felt awful on Monday and got tested and a rapid result they didn’t get covid in Arizona over the weekend.

the argument is still the same: without robust testing by clubs there’s no way of knowing who has it or how prevalent it is.
BUT to say people caught it at a tournament this past weekend is either a lie or a rumor to stir up emotions.
 
thedudeabides said:
Good point that many here are overlooking. We just don't have definitive data on the impact on adults when cases spike among children and young adults. I heard some players came back from Arizona tourney with covid. I'm sure the players will be fine but what if their coach now has it? What about the parents? Just too many unknowns.
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Also...a big unknown because it isn't being tracked is the level of sickness in children and the resulting impact. Just because they don't die, doesn't mean it isn't serious and doesn't cause issues for years to come. I just read in our school board minutes "Mrs. Carrie Buck reported that Bella, the middle school student who experienced COVID with significant issues, is doing well now. Bella is making masks as a fundraiser, and Mrs. Buck brought each of the Board members one of Bella’s masks." That made me take pause not knowing what those significant issues were.

In the ESPN article I posted in another thread, the doctor noted that a lot of college kids that had a mild form of the illness and didn't require hospitalization still had issues with heart inflammation and structural changes. I am not aware of any study large enough yet to conclude on the Myocarditis issue.

There are still so many unknowns to gamble with exclusive of death for our kids.
 
thedudeabides said:
www.webmd.com

Coronavirus (COVID-19) Overview

COVID-19 is a new type of coronavirus that causes mild to severe cases. Here’s a quick guide on how to spot symptoms, risk factors, prevent spread of the disease, and find out what to do if you think you have it.
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“Study”. In any case daycares have been open for months with children having full contact play. No outbreaks. Also, schools have been open and also been public school programs experimenting with actual kids in classrooms. Won’t find these actual facts in the news. The teachers/coaxhes/staff need to not interact. The problem is the teachers need to gossip and talk - which is human. That is the bigger issue. If you haven’t noticed, a ton of the “studies” have a lot of words like “possibly” or “could be” and reference unicorn cases. Just have to go out to the local YMCA and ask them how long they’ve been open and how many cases they’ve had. A lot of stories and “info” are paid biased nonsense. Soon you’ll have published studies that only have to reference the word “data” as fact. The news does it daily - they use to reference the sources, now it is just “new data” or “experts say”. Well the news guy said it, good enough for me.
 
Keepermom2 said:
Also...a big unknown because it isn't being tracked is the level of sickness in children and the resulting impact. Just because they don't die, doesn't mean it isn't serious and doesn't cause issues for years to come. I just read in our school board minutes "Mrs. Carrie Buck reported that Bella, the middle school student who experienced COVID with significant issues, is doing well now. Bella is making masks as a fundraiser, and Mrs. Buck brought each of the Board members one of Bella’s masks." That made me take pause not knowing what those significant issues were.

In the ESPN article I posted in another thread, the doctor noted that a lot of college kids that had a mild form of the illness and didn't require hospitalization still had issues with heart inflammation and structural changes. I am not aware of any study large enough yet to conclude on the Myocarditis issue.

There are still so many unknowns to gamble with exclusive of death for our kids.
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This is why some people are home schooling now. They dont feel safe at school. This virus is deadly and no way school folks can take a chance. Why risk sending your child with so many unknowns. How long will the unknowns be unknown? When will we know exactly the damage to hearts, lungs and our brain?
 
dad4 said:
To make this argument properly, wait 3 weeks, and include the number of hospitalizations in those college towns. The students may be fine, but the professors and the old guy who runs the pizza shop may or may not be.
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if they did they didn't protect themselves. only themselves to blame
 
thedudeabides said:
Good point that many here are overlooking. We just don't have definitive data on the impact on adults when cases spike among children and young adults. I heard some players came back from Arizona tourney with covid. I'm sure the players will be fine but what if their coach now has it? What about the parents? Just too many unknowns.
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why didn't any of the adults protect themselves? are they elderly and their care takers failed?
 
full90 said:
which team or club had people come back with it?Without details that’s a pretty big rumor to drop. And how would they know already? You shouldn’t get tested until 6 days after exposure. So if they got home Sunday night they wouldn’t have even tested yet. Let alone tested positive. And if they came home Sunday and felt awful on Monday and got tested and a rapid result they didn’t get covid in Arizona over the weekend.

the argument is still the same: without robust testing by clubs there’s no way of knowing who has it or how prevalent it is.
BUT to say people caught it at a tournament this past weekend is either a lie or a rumor to stir up emotions.
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No team/players came back with it. The dude just like to start shit where there was no shit
 
full90 said:
which team or club had people come back with it?Without details that’s a pretty big rumor to drop. And how would they know already? You shouldn’t get tested until 6 days after exposure. So if they got home Sunday night they wouldn’t have even tested yet. Let alone tested positive. And if they came home Sunday and felt awful on Monday and got tested and a rapid result they didn’t get covid in Arizona over the weekend.

the argument is still the same: without robust testing by clubs there’s no way of knowing who has it or how prevalent it is.
BUT to say people caught it at a tournament this past weekend is either a lie or a rumor to stir up emotions.
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The fifth day is the best day to test, it does not mean you can not test positive sooner.
 
Copa9 said:
The fifth day is the best day to test, it does not mean you can not test positive sooner.
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Labor day is not the first time CA teams went out of state to escape shutdown rules. Not unreasonable for someone to know someone who caught covid in AZ.
 
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