Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

Nothing intellectually dishonest by saying only 6% of deaths listed COVID as the only cause.

Fine but what's your point? It's a fairly meaningless statistic and you know it. It's kind of like saying only 6% of motorcycle fatalities listed blunt trauma as the only cause. If a 100 year old lady with 6 chronic medical conditions walks across a busy intersection and gets struck by a car and dies, blunt force trauma caused by auto-pedestrian accident is the cause of death......period. It doesn't make crossing a busy intersection any less dangerous if only 6% of all auto-ped fatalities have no other causes of death. Covid is real, covid is dangerous, covid doesn't care about politics, covid isn't going away until this entire country takes it seriously.
 
Fine but what's your point? It's a fairly meaningless statistic and you know it. It's kind of like saying only 6% of motorcycle fatalities listed blunt trauma as the only cause. If a 100 year old lady with 6 chronic medical conditions walks across a busy intersection and gets struck by a car and dies, blunt force trauma caused by auto-pedestrian accident is the cause of death......period. It doesn't make crossing a busy intersection any less dangerous if only 6% of all auto-ped fatalities have no other causes of death. Covid is real, covid is dangerous, covid doesn't care about politics, covid isn't going away until this entire country takes it seriously.
No one is saying COVID isnt real. But only 6% had no comorbidities. Thats important. The average i believe was over 2 comorbidities. Thats important. Whats the age of the deaths? Thats important. Why is that important? Because not everyone has comorbidities, expecially many people that need to work to live, as well as kids that need to learn in schools. These stats have meaning. Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 
My kid committed to the school she just graduated from as a sophomore in high school so I imagine there wouldn't have been any difference.
I wonder what she would have done and what the outcome would have been if she was still in middle school when this pandemic happened. zoom training/social distancing practices and no in class schools with no end in sight after 6 months. Would she still compete physically in soccer or academically in school compared to states that opened earlier? Maybe, maybe not. You have no idea. You are speaking from a different perspective that hasnt had to go through this experience. For a person of color, I would have thought you would speak from a more sympathetic place.
 
Fine but what's your point? It's a fairly meaningless statistic and you know it. It's kind of like saying only 6% of motorcycle fatalities listed blunt trauma as the only cause. If a 100 year old lady with 6 chronic medical conditions walks across a busy intersection and gets struck by a car and dies, blunt force trauma caused by auto-pedestrian accident is the cause of death......period. It doesn't make crossing a busy intersection any less dangerous if only 6% of all auto-ped fatalities have no other causes of death. Covid is real, covid is dangerous, covid doesn't care about politics, covid isn't going away until this entire country takes it seriously.

Exactly. These people are dense like that and they don't get it.
 
Exactly. These people are dense like that and they don't get it.
Dense? What percentage of healthy people with no comorbidities to include kids die from COVID out of all the estimated people that supposedly had it that we found out through antibody testing? So why cant kids and healthy people with no comorbidities go back to work and kids go back to school? Why cant healthy kids continue playing? You just dont get it. continue to count cancer, gunshots, and drug overdoses as covid deaths. it helps your worst case scenario numbers and argument. lol.
 
You must not be a stats guy.

First, your article blatantly confuses correlation with causation. It refers to NY, NJ, MA, DC and MI to imply that lockdowns cause outbreaks. It seems more likely that the states with the worst March outbreaks adopted the harshest April lowdowns.

Second, the claim that CA had the biggest summer flare up is only valid if you ignore population size. What kind of analyst doesn’t immediately correct for population size before saying anything?

What your stats prove is that a significant portion of the variance is caused by something other than date of opening. Well, yes. We knew that. A significant portion of the variance was caused by re-introduction of sick patients into nursing homes, among other things.

Now remove the March outliers and adjust for population size like a good little mathmatician and redo your homework.

Yeesh. Next you’re going to accuse someone else of being bad with numbers.

Oh, this is going to be fun.

Don’t omit that the “scientist”/author is actually a hedge-funder and charlatan.

In 2008, Luskin claimed in an op-ed article that the economy was doing super awesome, and that the Obama campaign was lying about problems in the economy to discredit John McCain. It was intended to be Luskin’s big piece de resistance, and to expose his (in his own mind) mortal enemy as a sham, nobel laureate in economics Paul Krugman. The title of the op ed was “Quit Doling Out That Bad Economy Line.”

Literally one day later, however, Lehman Brothers filed for the largest bankruptcy in US history and, two days after that, the stock markets imploded “thus discrediting every prediction he made in his editorial”, including the part where he said "…anyone who says we're in a recession, or heading into one—especially the worst one since the Great Depression—is making up his own private definition of recession.” Oops.

Foreign Policy named Luskin's prediction in its list of "The 10 Worst Predictions for 2008" He has also been singled out for "some of the worst, money losing commentary of the past few years” and frequently referred to by Brad DeLongas as "the Stupidest Man Alive".

It makes you wonder what a hedge funder, whose livelihood depends on people believing everything is great, might stand to gain by repeatedly claiming that everything is perfectly fine and everyone should just get back to work. Any thoughts? Any real science?
 
I wonder what she would have done and what the outcome would have been if she was still in middle school when this pandemic happened. zoom training/social distancing practices and no in class schools with no end in sight after 6 months. Would she still compete physically in soccer or academically in school compared to states that opened earlier? Maybe, maybe not. You have no idea. You are speaking from a different perspective that hasnt had to go through this experience. For a person of color, I would have thought you would speak from a more sympathetic place.

As a person of color my daughter is not defined by her sports. She is defined by her mind and her actions. She graduated Magna Cum Laude from a top 20 academic university in 3 and a half years while starting 92 out of 92 games in her career including 2 College Cups, an Elite 8 and a Sweet 16 her freshman year. I am pretty sure that she would have been fine missing 6 months or more of soccer. She missed 7 months of soccer after her knee surgery her sophomore year and still ended her career starting 78 consecutive games. She isn't unique. Lots of young women can perform things that would amaze you if you allow them. My daughter was home for 3 weeks recently and she trained by herself 4 days a week and ran almost every day. Nothing stopping anyone from doing that. My daughter had a meniscus tear that she played with from about U14 to her sophmore year of college so a break in 8th grade would have been great. I am not really concerned with comparing one state to another. California is far superior to any other state in almost any measurable metric. It's why the average home price in San Diego County where I live is over $700k. If all of the California players stayed in state and you added the occasional international player and it would be a tall ask for any team to beat them (See Stanford). Not being able to play in meaningless games against mostly mediocre competition isn't going to handicap a good player.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
No one is saying COVID isnt real. But only 6% had no comorbidities. Thats important. The average i believe was over 2 comorbidities. Thats important. Whats the age of the deaths? Thats important. Why is that important? Because not everyone has comorbidities, expecially many people that need to work to live, as well as kids that need to learn in schools. These stats have meaning. Just because you dont see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You know what stat has meaning? 190,000 dead people because of C19. We’ll probably be there by tomorrow.
 
Hey everyone it's a free country. If you want to put together friendlies and hope that everyone that your kid competes against has been as diligent as you have.

Good luck to all.
 
As a person of color my daughter is not defined by her sports. She is defined by her mind and her actions. She graduated Magna Cum Laude from a top 20 academic university in 3 and a half years while starting 92 out of 92 games in her career including 2 College Cups, an Elite 8 and a Sweet 16 her freshman year. I am pretty sure that she would have been fine missing 6 months or more of soccer. She missed 7 months of soccer after her knee surgery her sophomore year and still ended her career starting 78 consecutive games. She isn't unique. Lots of young women can perform things that would amaze you if you allow them. My daughter was home for 3 weeks recently and she trained by herself 4 days a week and ran almost every day. Nothing stopping anyone from doing that. My daughter had a meniscus tear that she played with from about U14 to her sophmore year of college so a break in 8th grade would have been great. I am not really concerned with comparing one state to another. California is far superior to any other state in almost any measurable metric. It's why the average home price in San Diego County where I live is over $700k. If all of the California players stayed in state and you added the occasional international player and it would be a tall ask for any team to beat them (See Stanford). Not being able to play in meaningless games against mostly mediocre competition isn't going to handicap a good player.

Good luck to you and your player.
you must have missed there part where kids cant go into classrooms. Kids whos school districts dont have enough chromebooks. Kids who dont have internet connection so they have been going to the nearest free wifi store thats still open to do get their lessons during these times. its not just about soccer. You are speaking from a place of priviledge. what happened to equal opportunity? I guess you forgot that once you caught up? Or is being held back due to color and class myth?
 
you must have missed there part where kids cant go into classrooms. Kids whos school districts dont have enough chromebooks. Kids who dont have internet connection so they have been going to the nearest free wifi store thats still open to do get their lessons during these times. its not just about soccer. You are speaking from a place of priviledge. what happened to equal opportunity? I guess you forgot that once you caught up? Or is being held back due to color and class myth?

Ha ha ha. I got a good belly laugh from that one. Speaking from a place of privilege? I feel for everyone in a tough economic spot and it sucks for those that are having a tough time making it academically. That has nothing to do with soccer though. Racism and classism are closely tied. We can debate that if you want but you are going to have to PM me and I can give you my mobile number and we can talk one on one about it. I can even put your daughter in touch with mine if she is struggling during this process. She is always up to mentor anyone that needs help.

You are barking up the wrong tree. Good luck to you and your player.
 
yup just keep counting those people over 80 with multiple comorbidities, no faster way to jack up those numbers.

Is this about soccer? You went into race and education with me. So again is this about soccer? And not just soccer but youth soccer right? And not about training but about meaningless games right?
 
As a person of color my daughter is not defined by her sports. She is defined by her mind and her actions. She graduated Magna Cum Laude from a top 20 academic university in 3 and a half years while starting 92 out of 92 games in her career including 2 College Cups, an Elite 8 and a Sweet 16 her freshman year. I am pretty sure that she would have been fine missing 6 months or more of soccer. She missed 7 months of soccer after her knee surgery her sophomore year and still ended her career starting 78 consecutive games. She isn't unique. Lots of young women can perform things that would amaze you if you allow them. My daughter was home for 3 weeks recently and she trained by herself 4 days a week and ran almost every day. Nothing stopping anyone from doing that. My daughter had a meniscus tear that she played with from about U14 to her sophmore year of college so a break in 8th grade would have been great. I am not really concerned with comparing one state to another. California is far superior to any other state in almost any measurable metric. It's why the average home price in San Diego County where I live is over $700k. If all of the California players stayed in state and you added the occasional international player and it would be a tall ask for any team to beat them (See Stanford). Not being able to play in meaningless games against mostly mediocre competition isn't going to handicap a good player.

Good luck to you and your player.
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Ha ha ha. I got a good belly laugh from that one. Speaking from a place of privilege? I feel for everyone in a tough economic spot and it sucks for those that are having a tough time making it academically. That has nothing to do with soccer though. Racism and classism are closely tied. We can debate that if you want but you are going to have to PM me and I can give you my mobile number and we can talk one on one about it. I can even put your daughter in touch with mine if she is struggling during this process. She is always up to mentor anyone that needs help.

You are barking up the wrong tree. Good luck to you and your player.
I don't even know what the ding dong you are responding to said because I put people like him that mimic a troll on ignore, but your responses are great! Can I call your daughter so she can mentor me?! I am pretty impressed by her and you!
 
It would be much more acceptable if other states around the country (who have worse #’s than California) weren’t playing. No one has answered that part of my question...how do you explain this to your kids? What is the justification for playing and/or for not playing?

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It would be much more acceptable if other states around the country (who have worse #’s than California) weren’t playing. No one has answered that part of my question...how do you explain this to your kids? What is the justification for playing and/or for not playing?

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EOTL/espola should be telling you soon how dumb of a question that is and how obvious it is if you just did some basic research.
 
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