D1 college soccer under threat

My kid's conference was one of the first to cancel their fall season. Although we were all very upset then, I'm glad that we had that time to get over the loss and mentally prepare for what things would be like as she does online classes while being on campus to do training and virtual practices. I feel so bad for all those kids who are having the rug yanked out now, just as school is starting. I have a friend whose daughter just arrived on campus and was expecting this to be her year. She'd sat on the bench a good portion of 3 years, grinding and waiting for her shot. Finally got scholarship money for her senior year. Had already taken care of most of her academics, so it was going to be all about soccer. Boom. Now it's gone. If she wants to play her last year, she'll have to extend her schooling and it's going to cost. What a nightmare.
Wow! Thanks for sharing. Pretty tough situation to be in. Will she think about transferring elsewhere?
 
I think it will depend on what D1 says eventually. Will D1 hold spring championships? If so can a team play in the fall still play in the spring? Will they flip the script and say you can play up to 6 games in the fall (like what spring is normally) and still play league and NCAA in the spring? If you conference plays in the fall does that burn a year of elgibilty? Until D1 meets and provides guidance we are left guessing.
This makes total sense.
 
Wow! Thanks for sharing. Pretty tough situation to be in. Will she think about transferring elsewhere?
Right now they just don't know. It's all in such upheaval that it's hard for her to make any decisions beyond the immediate. It's possible that they'll extend her offer another year, but then she'd be staying there (out of state) for another year, and it's too late for her to just declare this a gap year and sit out (rent & leases and classes already paid for). Maybe she'll get some games in the spring and then that's it. Soccer career over. Terrible, because she'd worked so hard to get to be a starter at D1 level and possibly compete for a championship and it all seems to be evaporating right when she could almost touch it. As bad as it is for my kid to lose her freshman year, at least she can hope for future seasons. It's way worse for those at the end who aren't going to get to finish. Same for all those seniors playing D1 football who won't be going pro (the vast majority). This was going to be the culmination of their football careers. That said, I can't blame the schools for pulling the plug. If the decision was on my head, I can't see how I'd come to any other conclusion.
 
More have died in the US in the last two days than any two day period since May. At the end of the day, CA is likely to break records for the most cases and deaths in a two day period. Today a sheriff in FL banned staff from wearing masks on the same day the county broke its record for deaths.

There will be no spring sports, or at least not one that finishes the season, without a vaccine. Americans are too dumb. It’s truly remarkable how dumb they are.
 
Myocarditis is nothing new. It can be caused by any virus. There are studies all over the web about it's effects on athletes and on those in the military. The thing that is unique now is that better medical care is occuring that is catching prior to people dying (which is great) and medical issues associated with Covid get a much greater attention by the media.
Yeah...the recent small studies are showing that it is more prevalent with COVID than the Flu. Once again, we need larger studies but as I understand it, several of the universities don't want to chance it because of the latest studies.

"Overall, 78% of recovered COVID-19 patients showed signs of some type of heart abnormality. The most common heart problem was inflammation of the heart muscle, or myocarditis, experienced by 60% of patients. Some patients also showed signs of inflammation of the pericardium, the tissue that surrounds the heart. Myocarditis occasionally occurs with influenza, adenovirus and other respiratory viruses, though it's much less common, for instance showing up in less than 10% of cases of flu, according to a 2012 study in the journal Influenza Research and Treatment. "

"Our findings demonstrate that participants with a relative paucity of preexisting cardiovascular [conditions] and with mostly home-based recovery had frequent cardiac inflammatory involvement" after COVID-19, the authors said."

 
Right now they just don't know. It's all in such upheaval that it's hard for her to make any decisions beyond the immediate. It's possible that they'll extend her offer another year, but then she'd be staying there (out of state) for another year, and it's too late for her to just declare this a gap year and sit out (rent & leases and classes already paid for). Maybe she'll get some games in the spring and then that's it. Soccer career over. Terrible, because she'd worked so hard to get to be a starter at D1 level and possibly compete for a championship and it all seems to be evaporating right when she could almost touch it. As bad as it is for my kid to lose her freshman year, at least she can hope for future seasons. It's way worse for those at the end who aren't going to get to finish. Same for all those seniors playing D1 football who won't be going pro (the vast majority). This was going to be the culmination of their football careers. That said, I can't blame the schools for pulling the plug. If the decision was on my head, I can't see how I'd come to any other conclusion.
Well said and thanks for sharing. There's how many layers to think about thats unspoken.
 
My freshmen doesn't want to use up a year of eligibility time with the Pac-12 postponing to spring & /wo any post season he's very close to opting out of competition this academic year and get a additional year of eligibility as a result.
Question will be, if a player opts out of school this year, will he/she be able to keep the spot once everything returns to normal next year?
I would assume that training will be happening, even though the season is canceled.
 
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Update: looks like 162 of 327 DI w-soccer teams still intend to play (49.54 %, below the needed 50% for NCAA Championship tournament). Cancellations: BigTen–Pac12–MAC–MtWest–CAA–Ivy–Northeast–SWAC–AEast–A10–BigWest–MAAC–Patriot–Summit–Big South; also teams ODU+EWU #CollegeSoccer

And there it is. No NCAA tournament
will they make an exception being that this is an exceptional year?
 
It would be a sham championship if the NCAA did hold one. A championship has everyone, not just a few teams who decided to play. I believe the NCAA is toast after this, and their insistence on punting responsibility to the conferences will be their undoing.
 
It would be a sham championship if the NCAA did hold one. A championship has everyone, not just a few teams who decided to play. I believe the NCAA is toast after this, and their insistence on punting responsibility to the conferences will be their undoing.

NCAA regulations require that at least half the teams registered to play in a given level (DI, DII, DIII) must agree to participate in the championship process in order for NCAA to sponsor a tournament. With the multiple conference announcements this week to suspend all college sports, they are already well below 50%.

Interesting thread covering that topic toward its end starts here --

 
Like many of you, I have been thinking about this so much and how the situation impacts the student athletes at every level - from the kid in her or his last college year to the incoming freshman to the high school kids who should be feeling one step closer to playing at the next level. @Simisoccerfan and I were going to share a game together in Hawaii; I would have been texting with @SpeedK1llz about his child and mine; I would have been watching the Pac-12 GKs with keen interest as there may have been 3 starters from the same youth club; and I would have been watching my kid experience something totally new, really challenging and absolutely special. What a difference 8 months makes (when the US U18s were getting ready to play China's U18s at the end of Jan, the families were alerted to the steps the Federation, Customs and the state of FL were taking to make sure the athletes were safe to enter the country so, yeah, we've known for a while).

It's such a terrible bummer for all considered. And, yet, what else could they have done? I mean, I get that there are differences in risk tolerance and one can advocate a position based on the available stats and that it's all sort of abstract until close friend or family member gets sick. But even if the statistical risk is low, the potential impact is enormous to a single life, to a team, to an athletic program, to a campus and broader community. I support the Pac's decision because, to me, there is still far too much that is unknown and we have failed to put ourselves in the best position to protect ourselves against that huge unknown. Will college football be the trigger, like the SEC's decision was for the Mississippi state flag? Will that result in a more cohesive national plan (even if through a series of state-by-state commitments)?

Good luck, all. I wish good physical and mental health to all of you and your families.
 
With WCC out that leaves only these conferences who have not yet announced their fall plans -

American Athletic - 6 men's teams
ACC - 12
Atlantic Sun - 7
Conference USA - 7
Horizon - 11
Missouri Valley - 5
Southern - 7
Sun Belt - 5
 
With WCC out that leaves only these conferences who have not yet announced their fall plans -

American Athletic - 6 men's teams
ACC - 12
Atlantic Sun - 7
Conference USA - 7
Horizon - 11
Missouri Valley - 5
Southern - 7
Sun Belt - 5

That's including the Big XII and the SEC saying they are moving forward? You've been tracking . . . how long until the ACC drops? And do you expect the Big XII and SEC to take all the way to the first to occur of (i) an outbreak or (ii) a completed season or do you think they will, ultimately, pull the plug?
 
That's including the Big XII and the SEC saying they are moving forward? You've been tracking . . . how long until the ACC drops? And do you expect the Big XII and SEC to take all the way to the first to occur of (i) an outbreak or (ii) a completed season or do you think they will, ultimately, pull the plug?
@dk_b I think they will all pull the plug. Why risk it for only 6 games when you can have double the about of games in the Spring. Not too mention falls coming and we might have another spike in #'s.
 
That's including the Big XII and the SEC saying they are moving forward? You've been tracking . . . how long until the ACC drops? And do you expect the Big XII and SEC to take all the way to the first to occur of (i) an outbreak or (ii) a completed season or do you think they will, ultimately, pull the plug?

No men's soccer at the conference level. There may be some schools whose teams play men's soccer in other conferences.
 
Like many of you, I have been thinking about this so much and how the situation impacts the student athletes at every level - from the kid in her or his last college year to the incoming freshman to the high school kids who should be feeling one step closer to playing at the next level. @Simisoccerfan and I were going to share a game together in Hawaii; I would have been texting with @SpeedK1llz about his child and mine; I would have been watching the Pac-12 GKs with keen interest as there may have been 3 starters from the same youth club; and I would have been watching my kid experience something totally new, really challenging and absolutely special. What a difference 8 months makes (when the US U18s were getting ready to play China's U18s at the end of Jan, the families were alerted to the steps the Federation, Customs and the state of FL were taking to make sure the athletes were safe to enter the country so, yeah, we've known for a while).

It's such a terrible bummer for all considered. And, yet, what else could they have done? I mean, I get that there are differences in risk tolerance and one can advocate a position based on the available stats and that it's all sort of abstract until close friend or family member gets sick. But even if the statistical risk is low, the potential impact is enormous to a single life, to a team, to an athletic program, to a campus and broader community. I support the Pac's decision because, to me, there is still far too much that is unknown and we have failed to put ourselves in the best position to protect ourselves against that huge unknown. Will college football be the trigger, like the SEC's decision was for the Mississippi state flag? Will that result in a more cohesive national plan (even if through a series of state-by-state commitments)?

Good luck, all. I wish good physical and mental health to all of you and your families.
100%. Well said.
 
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