What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

I guess the Goalkeeper Wars that some clubs tack onto tournaments as an extra competition could become the main event. You can maintain the required distance and everyone playing wears gloves!

Yeah we could do freekick wars, penality kick shootouts, field goals comps maybe time to "reimagine" the games as they say
 
I have a neighborhood who's referred to as the $40$ million dollar man, he had one hospital stay that was over $6$ million, his room was 5k a day for the ccu he was in.

Just his daily prescriptions total what most people take home in a week. He's happy to still be around but medical care when your get really sick or have chronic conditions can end up devastating people financially some of the time, 10% or deductibles can really get you when the numbers are in the millions.

you understand a Tylenol at the hospitals over $300....

health care systems been broken for years
 
I have a deal for the kids who love soccer and really miss playing in a game. Training starts next week. Lets let the kids play in Surf Cup or SilverLakes. Add $50 charge to to each player for food and games and parking. Parents drop off and go on a date each day to make up for lost dates ((if you date)). Kids need a soccer rally. I would like to go too and watch because I miss it too, but I'm willing to do whatever to let the kids play.
 
I have a deal for the kids who love soccer and really miss playing in a game. Training starts next week. Lets let the kids play in Surf Cup or SilverLakes. Add $50 charge to to each player for food and games and parking. Parents drop off and go on a date each day to make up for lost dates ((if you date)). Kids need a soccer rally. I would like to go too and watch because I miss it too, but I'm willing to do whatever to let the kids play.

I'm all for kids returning to training but tournaments not sure just yet.

Don't know many parents that want to drive for hours each way to drop there kids off and come back in two hours but in some places like San Diego at least there places to go. Turning soccer into child care I dunno if coaches will go for that with 3 teams per could get tricky.

I can see testing required at some point, high school clearance maybe coming:

 
I'm all for kids returning to training but tournaments not sure just yet.

Don't know many parents that want to drive for hours each way to drop there kids off and come back in two hours but in some places like San Diego at least there places to go. Turning soccer into child care I dunno if coaches will go for that with 3 teams per could get tricky.

I can see testing required at some point, high school clearance maybe coming:

Before we try for U17 tournaments, how about drop off U9 games with youth refs?

Much safer.
 
Before we try for U17 tournaments, how about drop off U9 games with youth refs?

Much safer.

Safer in what sense?

Kids those ages normally need guidance and some sort of adult supervision or child care right?

Coaches are there to teach soccer and normally have multiple teams right? Are they appropriate, willing or even have the time or capacity to take on additional responsibility and keep track of each individual kid all the things that go with that and wait for each parent to return in a tournament format with so many other players, . At a local practice yes ? But a out of town tournament not sure
 
I'm all for kids returning to training but tournaments not sure just yet.

Don't know many parents that want to drive for hours each way to drop there kids off and come back in two hours but in some places like San Diego at least there places to go. Turning soccer into child care I dunno if coaches will go for that with 3 teams per could get tricky.

I can see testing required at some point, high school clearance maybe coming:

No, just a few games before were shut down again. I'm only talking youth sports btw. I'm seeing shut down in certain states and counties coming and that's life. The kids deserve a little fun too and a tournament is not too much to ask for is it? Let's say my dd team is invited to Silver Lakes Aug 21-23rd ((I have no idea what tournament were in btw)). Friday 10am game. My wife and I drop her off at the Temperature drop off place at 8am. They take her temp and all is good. After a nice breakfast and maybe some shopping, we come back for pick up at 12pm. Saturday we drop off and do the temp thing and go to lunch & a movie this time. No crowds bro at all. Sunday, we repeat. Local colleges can come and make the drive. This is all doable imo. If kids under 24 start dying like crazy, lets shut it all down.
 
Safer in what sense?

Kids those ages normally need guidance and some sort of adult supervision or child care right?

Coaches are there to teach soccer and normally have multiple teams right? Are they appropriate, willing or even have the time or capacity to take on additional responsibility and keep track of each individual kid all the things that go with that and wait for each parent to return in a tournament format with so many other players, . At a local practice yes ? But a out of town tournament not sure
Safer in the sense that small groups have fewer interactions, and kids under 10 carry lower viral loads.

I am thinking small games at the local elementary school. More about play than P5 scholarships.
 
OC needs to stop pissing off the Nanny.

"While outdoors in public spaces when maintaining a physical distance of six feet from persons who are not members of the same household or residence is not feasible."

I read the new guidance and unless somethings change or additional clarification is provided could delay or cause problems for contact or close contact sports.

Reguired:
While outdoors in public spaces when maintaining a physical distance of six feet from persons who are not members of the same household or residence is not feasible."

Exempt:
"Persons who are engaged in outdoor work or recreation such as swimming, walking, hiking, bicycling, or running, when alone or with household members, and when they are able to maintain a distance of at least six feet from others."

Football, basketball, and soccer don't seem to fit the above exempt definition. Who's selling those sports masks again?

Agree or not with the mask guidance it's not enforcable as a crime or anything. No mask police ,sheriff's or local police basically saying they won't enforce.

Businesses could deny and there can be some legal and insurance ramifications but not sure how that might play out?
 
No, just a few games before were shut down again. I'm only talking youth sports btw. I'm seeing shut down in certain states and counties coming and that's life. The kids deserve a little fun too and a tournament is not too much to ask for is it? Let's say my dd team is invited to Silver Lakes Aug 21-23rd ((I have no idea what tournament were in btw)). Friday 10am game. My wife and I drop her off at the Temperature drop off place at 8am. They take her temp and all is good. After a nice breakfast and maybe some shopping, we come back for pick up at 12pm. Saturday we drop off and do the temp thing and go to lunch & a movie this time. No crowds bro at all. Monday, we repeat. Local colleges can come and make the drive. This is all doable imo. If kids under 24 start dying like crazy, lets shut it all down.

My HS son drives so I'm good at watching the highlights. He's responsible enough to take care of whatever needs there are.

Will take the thermo gun with to help everyone if they need checking. He will play with a mask, some pros wear those in training so its doable.
 
My HS son drives so I'm good at watching the highlights. He's responsible enough to take care of whatever needs there are.

Will take the thermo gun with to help everyone if they need checking. He will play with a mask, some pros wear those in training so its doable.
Well, my dd can drive soon when DMV is ready for her to take her test. I hear their back logged. I will also say I know how to sneak into Silver Lakes so I will probably give the Mrs some spending money and I'll get my sport fix for the rest of the year on Friday. Just one more game, please.......
 
"While outdoors in public spaces when maintaining a physical distance of six feet from persons who are not members of the same household or residence is not feasible."



Agree or not with the mask guidance it's not enforcable as a crime or anything. No mask police ,sheriff's or local police basically saying they won't enforce.

Businesses could deny and there can be some legal and insurance ramifications but not sure how that might play out?

Governors rule came after a billion dollar mask deal with China....we gonna take this one up the cheeks too?
 
Anyone actually read some of the releases Cal South and the clubs are having us sign?

I'm not opposed to sending my kids back and I understand and assume responsibility for the risks, but some of the verbiage on these releases is interesting to say the least, especially the parts about negligence.
 
Anyone actually read some of the releases Cal South and the clubs are having us sign?

I'm not opposed to sending my kids back and I understand and assume responsibility for the risks, but some of the verbiage on these releases is interesting to say the least, especially the parts about negligence.
Please share on the message board what that means bro. Me dumb dumb, ty kindly :)
 
My HS son drives so I'm good at watching the highlights. He's responsible enough to take care of whatever needs there are.

Will take the thermo gun with to help everyone if they need checking. He will play with a mask, some pros wear those in training so its doable.
where did you find a mask that is comfy to play in?
 
Anyone actually read some of the releases Cal South and the clubs are having us sign?

I'm not opposed to sending my kids back and I understand and assume responsibility for the risks, but some of the verbiage on these releases is interesting to say the least, especially the parts about negligence.
Waivers generally are for negligence. You're asking people to assume the risk that you'll make a mistake or your precautions will be inadequate or not done properly and their kid (or the parent) will be harmed. You're telling them they should just not participate if that inherent risk worries them.

If you do everything perfectly under the reasonable care standard, the waiver is unnecessary since you're not liable anyway (the indemnity might be necessary, though, to cover the defendant's costs if you bring suit against them). In California, courts generally won't let you waive your right to sue for gross negligence, wanton disregard for safety, intentional actions to harm you etc, but they will for regular negligence (mistakes made when trying to do the right thing).

Attorneys often advise the group drafting the waiver to specify that the parent is waiving their right to sue for negligence. That's because your reaction is common. Many parents will sign a waiver, but, according to the court, not realize they've waived their right to sue if the soccer club or field did something the wrong way (i.e., negligently). Not sure what parents think they're waiving in that case, but people don't always put 2 and 2 together. The court will rule that the waiver was ineffective because there was inadequate information or notice about the rights they were waiving. That's why they specify negligence here. It's also because "reasonable care" is so uncertain with a new virus where transmission methods are unclear that there is a decent chance what seems reasonable care now may seem like negligence in hindsight years later when there is a trial and they don't want to fight about that.
 
Waivers generally are for negligence. You're asking people to assume the risk that you'll make a mistake or your precautions will be inadequate or not done properly and their kid (or the parent) will be harmed. You're telling them they should just not participate if that inherent risk worries them.

If you do everything perfectly under the reasonable care standard, the waiver is unnecessary since you're not liable anyway (the indemnity might be necessary, though, to cover the defendant's costs if you bring suit against them). In California, courts generally won't let you waive your right to sue for gross negligence, wanton disregard for safety, intentional actions to harm you etc, but they will for regular negligence (mistakes made when trying to do the right thing).

Attorneys often advise the group drafting the waiver to specify that the parent is waiving their right to sue for negligence. That's because your reaction is common. Many parents will sign a waiver, but, according to the court, not realize they've waived their right to sue if the soccer club or field did something the wrong way (i.e., negligently). Not sure what parents think they're waiving in that case, but people don't always put 2 and 2 together. The court will rule that the waiver was ineffective because there was inadequate information or notice about the rights they were waiving. That's why they specify negligence here. It's also because "reasonable care" is so uncertain with a new virus where transmission methods are unclear that there is a decent chance what seems reasonable care now may seem like negligence in hindsight years later when there is a trial and they don't want to fight about that.
Then don’t sign and have your kid sit out. You are picking apart something that allows your kid to participate in a sport and agree not to blame the club for the risk that there is with every sport. What point are you trying to make with your post?
 
Then don’t sign and have your kid sit out. You are picking apart something that allows your kid to participate in a sport and agree not to blame the club for the risk that there is with every sport. What point are you trying to make with your post?
@Technician72 asked about the Cal South waivers and the part about negligence and @Ellejustus asked what that meant. I was explaining why it was a standard part of a waiver.
 
where did you find a mask that is comfy to play in?
Under Armour marketed a work out mask. It sold out immediately. You can order now and it will take a few weeks to arrive. I ordered and hope they are here next week just to have.
The thing that sucks, once practices start and things look up at least in OC, Clemson, K State and LSU football are shutting down due to outbreaks. If college football can't go will they let youth sports go?
 
Under Armour marketed a work out mask. It sold out immediately. You can order now and it will take a few weeks to arrive. I ordered and hope they are here next week just to have.
The thing that sucks, once practices start and things look up at least in OC, Clemson, K State and LSU football are shutting down due to outbreaks. If college football can't go will they let youth sports go?
Thank you.

Best I have found is string king. Fogs lenses, but breathes easily if you dont wear glasses.
 
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