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Wez said:
I actually agree with Lion here, those comments Obama made about building a business were a little off base. BO was trying to appeal to the common man, but in the process slighted the incredibly hard work it takes to build a successful business. There is a reason the vast majority of small business fail and that most people don't make huge incomes. Aint nothin easy in life.
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Go out to the middle of the desert, miles from any public services and try building a business from scratch . . . even then people will use publicly financed infrastructure to get there. How many people build a business without the use of things publicly financed? Examples please.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Okay Mr. Obvious with out human history and civilization we might all be running around 1/2 naked & crapping in a hole in the dirt.
At the risk of repeating myself, let me repeat myself.
The infrastructure is there for all... the level playing field if you will.
If success was do to the "foundations" built by others and the infrastructure paid for by all and used by all, everyone would have a successful business.
Hard work, sacrifice, & drive to succeed produce successful business.
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That's what he meant and no having the opportunity that places like America afford one DO NOT success insure . . . that's why America is so great! Try a business venture in Chad.
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You ain't seeing what I'm seeing, in fact you are going out of your way not to see it.
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Lion Eyes said:
You see what you want to see.
You ever started a business, worked for hours and hours to make it succeed?
Anybody sitting next to you on those late nights because paper work is needed the next morning.
Ever miss out on a family function or championship soccer game because you need to finish a project when promised.
Ever make cold calls to sell your business and spread your name around to those that may use your services?
Nobody called me when I first got my business line up and running. I had to sell the business.
I had to build the business, no one else did it for me.
I not only see it Huckster, I've lived it.
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I can type the same piece, not always an easy life....
But I would not trade my 30 + years of pitfalls and successes for anything else...Ever.
Unless someone has actually walked the walk it's quite hard for someone to understand....
 
Hüsker Dü said:
How did the roads to and from your business get built?
Who paid for your education?
Who taught you how to do what you do?
Who taught you how to tie your shoes?
Who paid to get common services close to and available for hook up to your place of business?
Who fought to keep this country free so you could have a business? and who helped pay for that?
There are thousand of things that went into your success before you even started down that path. The path you chose, the decisions you made, the luck you had and the people that decided help you were influenced and determined by you . . . and yes, you built your success from nothing, if you consider yourself and all that went into you nothing?

Without others you would have a tough time conjuring everything alone.
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You paint yourself as a VERY selfish Individual Rat.......or at least your commentary " Always " comes across as such .....
 
A. Try to start a business in Chad
B. Try to start a business in America.
In which situation do you believe you have a greater chance at success?
 
Hüsker Dü said:
Go out to the middle of the desert, miles from any public services and try building a business from scratch . . . even then people will use publicly financed infrastructure to get there. How many people build a business without the use of things publicly financed? Examples please.
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Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. We're discussing how hard it is to create a successful business?
 
Wez said:
Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. We're discussing how hard it is to create a successful business?
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Its not that hard if you know how to work, and have a fairly good idea how to promote your product or service.
Government is generally your biggest hurdle.
 
Wez said:
Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. We're discussing how hard it is to create a successful business?
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Of course it is, even hard working smart people come up short everyday. Starting is just a bit easier the less things you have to pay for/deal with. Paying to simply plug into exist utility services is better than having it routed to your location, right? Having educated potential employees is a good thing, right? Having police that protect your business is good, right? Having, by far, the world's largest military to protect the country your business is in is a good thing, right? I could go on and on . . . even you were educated with the help of others.
 
. . . the internet so people can order online from your business . . . then the United States Postal Service can pick up and deliver the goods . . .
 
What the president meant is that our form of socialism is good for business. You built it, but not without many advantages brought to you by socialism . . . would your have had the same success alone? We'll never know.
 
Bernie Sanders said:
Its not that hard if you know how to work, and have a fairly good idea how to promote your product or service.
Government is generally your biggest hurdle.
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More than a century ago, Roy Farmer, 20, went door-to-door in Los Angeles with his bags of home-roasted coffee beans. By the 1930s, Farmer Brothers was selling coffee to restaurants throughout the nation. Today the company employs 1,200 men and women and generates $200 million in annual sales to restaurants, convenience stores, hospitals, hotels and universities.

But after surviving depressions, recessions, earthquakes and wars, Farmer Brothers is leaving California, finally driven out by high taxes and oppressive regulations.

The company says it’s fleeing in search of a place where business is appreciated. Relocating its corporate headquarters and distribution facilities from to a friendlier location, Farmer Brothers expects to save $15 million a year. Company executives are looking at Dallas and Oklahoma City. The relocation will bear real consequences for California. Nearly 350 workers will lose their well-paying jobs in Los Angeles alone.

Farmer Brothers is following Toyota, whose U.S. sales and marketing headquarters was barely a mile from the company’s main office, and has gone to Texas. Raytheon Space and Airborne Systems, eBay, Occidental Petroleum and firearms retailer RifleGear followed. Nissan bailed to Tennessee.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/17/editorial-businesses-flee-californias-high-taxes-a/
 
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