What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

They might as well say, no soccer allowed. I was Surfing at Salt Creek on Sunday and everyone was playing. Not many mask at all. I saw golfers golfing and high 5iving for whole and 1s. I saw adults playing 4 on 4 volleyball with zero mask on. I saw thousands walking and laughing and jogging on the beach. Boats boating around and me surfing some tough win waves. I sat for two hours people watching. The coolest thing I saw was all nations playing. This was not all white south oc folks as Messy would want some to believe. the kids were all playing and all races playing together. These were well to do folks and I guess there on another planet from what I see on TV. It was interesting to observe.
 
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They need to get the rules in line with the science. People can mostly follow rules that are explained well and make sense.

But they’re trying to convince us that a 5v5 U7 game in open air counts as high risk. No one believes it, and the attempt undercuts the rules which do make sense.

In some cases, the rules make it worse. We ban outdoor graduation parties at public parks, and we get indoor graduation parties at private homes.
Take a look at what is happening in Arizona after they opened up.
 
Desert Hound, c'mon, you gave me the Arizona numbers and they say exactly what I said they say. Do you disagree? And this new link says absolutely nothing remotely to what you say it says. Those are 5 different potential scenarios as of 4/29/20!! Are you kidding me? Dawson and Grace T. why do you give a thumbs up on a post that makes no sense whatsoever?

And what is this obsession with the flu rate? For crying out loud, stop it. Or do you need a refresher course. 110,000 deaths in 5 months with a lockdown and no school. Average flu deaths in 8 months around 30-35K with no lockdown and school. Further, only about 2-5% of the U.S. population has had exposure to covid and we still have 110,000 deaths. Low ball estimate of 1,000,000 deaths if the entire population is exposed. Again, flu season averages 30,000 deaths. That means covid is 33 times deadlier than the flu. You want percentages? 1,000,000/330,000,000 = 3%; Flu death rate is .1%. Covid 30 times deadlier than the flue. Capisce?
A well known and respected doctor yesterday gave me an easy example to explain to people who don't want to bother with the science, masks etc.etc. etc. "If I give someone 100 M&M's to eat and tell them 3 of them will kill them, how many will they eat?" Patience is important, a couple big biotech firms have something coming soon. Watch news from Gilead. There is hope, big hope.
 
A well known and respected doctor yesterday gave me an easy example to explain to people who don't want to bother with the science, masks etc.etc. etc. "If I give someone 100 M&M's to eat and tell them 3 of them will kill them, how many will they eat?" Patience is important, a couple big biotech firms have something coming soon. Watch news from Gilead. There is hope, big hope.

That is such an inaccurate and deceitful statement; tell your DR friend to stop the fear mongering..thanks!
 
A well known and respected doctor yesterday gave me an easy example to explain to people who don't want to bother with the science, masks etc.etc. etc. "If I give someone 100 M&M's to eat and tell them 3 of them will kill them, how many will they eat?" Patience is important, a couple big biotech firms have something coming soon. Watch news from Gilead. There is hope, big hope.
I will eat all of them because it depends who you give the M & Ms too. The stroke victim would only need one because he will die no mater what of Corona. Keep it up Copa, nice try though.
 
Take a look at what is happening in Arizona after they opened up.
As far as I can tell, AZ made almost no effort to put good rules in place as they opened up. Just got rid of the rules because we all hate rules. Combine that with lots of air conditioning, and it is a mess.

Then take a look at GA. Other than allowing indoor dining, their rules for opening were pretty sensible. Telecommuting, wearing masks, measure minimum distances inside stores, etc. They had pages and pages of required behavior for each type of business. What do you clean, how often, how far apart are seats, how many people allowed inside the store, etc.

It isn’t just whether you open, it is how.
 
As far as I can tell, AZ made almost no effort to put good rules in place as they opened up. Just got rid of the rules because we all hate rules. Combine that with lots of air conditioning, and it is a mess.
Well not sure why you don't go look at the stats produced by AZ. If this is a mess...I will take it. Note the decline in deaths.

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conservative estimates have us at 400,000 deaths by next spring. That’s with a bump for normal flu season.
That’s scary as hell.

we’ve all just accepted a certain amount of deaths is ok if we get to live how we want.

we don’t know a lot about covid. Many of us are equating what scientists don’t know with them being wrong, exaggerating or the government controlling us. But what if the unknown means this is really worth being scared over.
a lot of people are dying. And our federal leaders aren’t leading. We have no nation wide plan to mobilize testing which would be huge. Or leadership to lay out a gameplan with resources to back up a blueprint. It’s a mess.
this is pretty much an awful scenario
thats 600,000 less then originally estimated by the CDC.
 
The US is opening up. Results who that throughout the US cases are pretty stable, some up, some down in states. Deaths on the other hand are down, way down. Different sources have pointed out that it is possible the virus has mutated again becoming less deadly, that the ones most likely to die are now taking the right precautions, and that doctors now have some treatment plans that are also reducing death rates.
 
Then take a look at GA. Other than allowing indoor dining, their rules for opening were pretty sensible.
I agree, look at Georgia who according to you was sensible and AZ wasn't.
Georgia infections per 100k: 518
AZ infections per 100k: 430
Georgia deaths per 100k: 22
AZ deaths per 100k: 15

Cal has 12 deaths per 100k as well.

 
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