What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

They need to get the rules in line with the science. People can mostly follow rules that are explained well and make sense.

But they’re trying to convince us that a 5v5 U7 game in open air counts as high risk. No one believes it, and the attempt undercuts the rules which do make sense.

In some cases, the rules make it worse. We ban outdoor graduation parties at public parks, and we get indoor graduation parties at private homes.
Take a look at what is happening in Arizona after they opened up.
 
Desert Hound, c'mon, you gave me the Arizona numbers and they say exactly what I said they say. Do you disagree? And this new link says absolutely nothing remotely to what you say it says. Those are 5 different potential scenarios as of 4/29/20!! Are you kidding me? Dawson and Grace T. why do you give a thumbs up on a post that makes no sense whatsoever?

And what is this obsession with the flu rate? For crying out loud, stop it. Or do you need a refresher course. 110,000 deaths in 5 months with a lockdown and no school. Average flu deaths in 8 months around 30-35K with no lockdown and school. Further, only about 2-5% of the U.S. population has had exposure to covid and we still have 110,000 deaths. Low ball estimate of 1,000,000 deaths if the entire population is exposed. Again, flu season averages 30,000 deaths. That means covid is 33 times deadlier than the flu. You want percentages? 1,000,000/330,000,000 = 3%; Flu death rate is .1%. Covid 30 times deadlier than the flue. Capisce?
A well known and respected doctor yesterday gave me an easy example to explain to people who don't want to bother with the science, masks etc.etc. etc. "If I give someone 100 M&M's to eat and tell them 3 of them will kill them, how many will they eat?" Patience is important, a couple big biotech firms have something coming soon. Watch news from Gilead. There is hope, big hope.
 
A well known and respected doctor yesterday gave me an easy example to explain to people who don't want to bother with the science, masks etc.etc. etc. "If I give someone 100 M&M's to eat and tell them 3 of them will kill them, how many will they eat?" Patience is important, a couple big biotech firms have something coming soon. Watch news from Gilead. There is hope, big hope.

That is such an inaccurate and deceitful statement; tell your DR friend to stop the fear mongering..thanks!
 
A well known and respected doctor yesterday gave me an easy example to explain to people who don't want to bother with the science, masks etc.etc. etc. "If I give someone 100 M&M's to eat and tell them 3 of them will kill them, how many will they eat?" Patience is important, a couple big biotech firms have something coming soon. Watch news from Gilead. There is hope, big hope.
I will eat all of them because it depends who you give the M & Ms too. The stroke victim would only need one because he will die no mater what of Corona. Keep it up Copa, nice try though.
 
Take a look at what is happening in Arizona after they opened up.
As far as I can tell, AZ made almost no effort to put good rules in place as they opened up. Just got rid of the rules because we all hate rules. Combine that with lots of air conditioning, and it is a mess.

Then take a look at GA. Other than allowing indoor dining, their rules for opening were pretty sensible. Telecommuting, wearing masks, measure minimum distances inside stores, etc. They had pages and pages of required behavior for each type of business. What do you clean, how often, how far apart are seats, how many people allowed inside the store, etc.

It isn’t just whether you open, it is how.
 
As far as I can tell, AZ made almost no effort to put good rules in place as they opened up. Just got rid of the rules because we all hate rules. Combine that with lots of air conditioning, and it is a mess.
Well not sure why you don't go look at the stats produced by AZ. If this is a mess...I will take it. Note the decline in deaths.

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conservative estimates have us at 400,000 deaths by next spring. That’s with a bump for normal flu season.
That’s scary as hell.

we’ve all just accepted a certain amount of deaths is ok if we get to live how we want.

we don’t know a lot about covid. Many of us are equating what scientists don’t know with them being wrong, exaggerating or the government controlling us. But what if the unknown means this is really worth being scared over.
a lot of people are dying. And our federal leaders aren’t leading. We have no nation wide plan to mobilize testing which would be huge. Or leadership to lay out a gameplan with resources to back up a blueprint. It’s a mess.
this is pretty much an awful scenario
thats 600,000 less then originally estimated by the CDC.
 
The US is opening up. Results who that throughout the US cases are pretty stable, some up, some down in states. Deaths on the other hand are down, way down. Different sources have pointed out that it is possible the virus has mutated again becoming less deadly, that the ones most likely to die are now taking the right precautions, and that doctors now have some treatment plans that are also reducing death rates.
 
Then take a look at GA. Other than allowing indoor dining, their rules for opening were pretty sensible.
I agree, look at Georgia who according to you was sensible and AZ wasn't.
Georgia infections per 100k: 518
AZ infections per 100k: 430
Georgia deaths per 100k: 22
AZ deaths per 100k: 15

Cal has 12 deaths per 100k as well.

 
Not even day camps?

Seems to be case-by-case on the counties and even some cities within the counties.

Big flashing scrolling LCD on wheels by the beach cities yesterday on PCH:. "Team sports play & gatherings prohibited", practice social distancing, etc"

What they are saying is team and youth sports are not day camps.

They are putting team and youth sports in their own category.
 
Georgia’s daily change in cases has been flat since mid April at about 700 per day.

Arizona’s daily change in cases looks like a hockey stick. Straight until May 23, then goes way up. 1654 yesterday, and growing.

You can make it look good by looking at lagging indicators, like deaths.

You can also make it look good by averaging in March, April, and early May- before the increase started.

Or you can be honest and call a hockey stick a hockey stick.

 
As far as I can tell, AZ made almost no effort to put good rules in place as they opened up. Just got rid of the rules because we all hate rules. Combine that with lots of air conditioning, and it is a mess.
Dude, please stop with all your takes on AZ corona cases. What does, "almost made no effort mean? Were talking only soccer in AZ and you get all into this unlike anyone I know on this forum. Be honest with the fellas here bro. Is it because you can;t go to ECNL Showcase and your actually jealous? You seem like a reasonable person and not like that but i'm starting to wonder and you and Copa. I was pissed when my dd was forced out by so many and I just let it all out.
 
Dude, please stop with all your takes on AZ corona cases. What does, "almost made no effort mean? Were talking only soccer in AZ and you get all into this unlike anyone I know on this forum. Be honest with the fellas here bro. Is it because you can;t go to ECNL Showcase and your actually jealous? You seem like a reasonable person and not like that but i'm starting to wonder and you and Copa. I was pissed when my dd was forced out by so many and I just let it all out.
My kid is 10. ECNL isn’t really the question unless I get bored and start thinking out three to four years. (she’s good, but nowhere near good enough to play up 3 years into ECNL)

It does bug me that we’re all stuck at home because some people can’t follow simple rules about masks and parties. We could be out playing in sunshine.

Instead, some dumb shits have to throw Memorial Day parties, infect their friends, and convince the health department that we all need another two weeks of being bored stiff.
 
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