What's your best guess as to when trainings will resume?

[watfly]

Many of the experts said we need to restrict group gatherings to 25 people or less and wear masks and maintain 6 ft distance to prevent a surge in infections and those are three of the main restrictions in many states including California and New York . Obviously our state and local officials thought this was serious enough to keep these restrictions in place despite raging unemployment and a devastated economy .

We have had peaceful protests and not so peaceful riots 9 straight days and nights in many cities and most states . The majority of these protests have consisted of peaceful very large groups of people . In those situations most people have had a hard time maintaining a 6 ft social distance and many wore masks and many did not.

If the experts are right we should see a very large increase in infections over the next one to two weeks over much of the US .

If we don't see this large increase in infections it would appear the experts were wrong and it seems reasonable that we should lift the restrictions and open up our struggling economy and get people working again to support their families . Or at least the restrictions should be greatly reduced in most states and eliminated in others.

I'm just repeating myself but experts have yet to be right, why would we need to wait another two weeks for them to be wrong again? When Georgia reopened and Wisconsin held elections the experts said it would have tragic Covid consequences...not even remotely close. Deaths actually have declined. There is not a state that has reopened that has had a material increase (most are decreases) in the death rate, or hospitalization rate (for those states that report hospitalizations).

 

[Copa9]

Many of the experts said we need to restrict group gatherings to 25 people or less and wear masks and maintain 6 ft distance to prevent a surge in infections and those are three of the main restrictions in many states including California and New York . Obviously our state and local officials thought this was serious enough to keep these restrictions in place despite raging unemployment and a devastated economy .

We have had peaceful protests and not so peaceful riots 9 straight days and nights in many cities and most states . The majority of these protests have consisted of peaceful very large groups of people . In those situations most people have had a hard time maintaining a 6 ft social distance and many wore masks and many did not.

If the experts are right we should see a very large increase in infections over the next one to two weeks over much of the US .

If we don't see this large increase in infections it would appear the experts were wrong and it seems reasonable that we should lift the restrictions and open up our struggling economy and get people working again to support their families . Or at least the restrictions should be greatly reduced in most states and eliminated in others.

Many of the experts said we need to restrict group gatherings to 25 people or less and wear masks and maintain 6 ft distance to prevent a surge in infections and those are three of the main restrictions in many states including California and New York . Obviously our state and local officials thought this was serious enough to keep these restrictions in place despite raging unemployment and a devastated economy .

We have had peaceful protests and not so peaceful riots 9 straight days and nights in many cities and most states . The majority of these protests have consisted of peaceful very large groups of people . In those situations most people have had a hard time maintaining a 6 ft social distance and many wore masks and many did not.

If the experts are right we should see a very large increase in infections over the next one to two weeks over much of the US .

If we don't see this large increase in infections it would appear the experts were wrong and it seems reasonable that we should lift the restrictions and open up our struggling economy and get people working again to support their families . Or at least the restrictions should be greatly reduced in most states and eliminated in others.

Good news, unemployment figure down to 13.5%. Some bad news in my opinion, my friend just came back from Havasu where people were not physical distancing and no masks. She is now sick with fever over 101, with Tylenol 100 and severe sweats at night. Going to contact doctor today. If she is positive for covid it will show up for OC, not Arizona. Just continue to practice safety guidelines as we open up.

 

[Copa9]

you do understand people are much closer to one another at the grocery store in a closed environment then at these protest. Its physically impossible to maintain 6ft going out for grocery's.........but yet some how 22 players on an open soccer field pose a threat, a threat great enough to shut down youth sports everywhere

Remember it is a contact sport, especially for the olders.

 

[jpeter]

Reopening California: State to allow schools, pro sports, gyms, bars to begin resuming operations next week.

Reopening California: State to allow schools, pro sports, gyms, bars to begin resuming operations next week

California will allow schools, day camps, bars, gyms and professional sports with modifications to begin reopening starting next Friday.

abc7.com

"California will allow schools, day camps, bars, gyms and professional sports with modifications to begin reopening starting next Friday.

Gov. Gavin Newsom has been moving the state through a methodical four-step process for reopening. Most of the new businesses are part of "Phase 3." Nail salons will not be included in the list"

 

[Ellejustus]

Some OC ECNL/ECRL teams are holding some practices

Where? Can we go and "hang?"

 

[gkmom]

Reopening California: State to allow schools, pro sports, gyms, bars to begin resuming operations next week.

Reopening California: State to allow schools, pro sports, gyms, bars to begin resuming operations next week

California will allow schools, day camps, bars, gyms and professional sports with modifications to begin reopening starting next Friday.

abc7.com

"California will allow schools, day camps, bars, gyms and professional sports with modifications to begin reopening starting next Friday.

Gov. Gavin Newsom has been moving the state through a methodical four-step process for reopening. Most of the new businesses are part of "Phase 3." Nail salons will not be included in the list"

Professional sports listed, is youth sports included?

 

[dad4]

Professional sports listed, is youth sports included?

Depending on age, it may count as day camp. Helpful, since the day camp rules are statewide. Might be an easier set of hoops to jump through.

 

[Ellejustus]

Good news, unemployment figure down to 13.5%. Some bad news in my opinion, my friend just came back from Havasu where people were not physical distancing and no masks. She is now sick with fever over 101, with Tylenol 100 and severe sweats at night. Going to contact doctor today. If she is positive for covid it will show up for OC, not Arizona. Just continue to practice safety guidelines as we open up.

Keep us posted on your friend. Prayers to her. Let me know if she dies and or passes this on to someone else who passes it to someone who passes it to some one else who passes it on to someone else who dies. Thanks for the Warning too!!!. Hey everyone. Attention: Someone from lake Havasu has 101 temp. Please stay where you are now if you were in that area the last few days. Put your hands up now!!! Plus, kneel as well. Do not leave your place except for essentials the next 14 days. Call in sick or better yet, go on unemployment!! Watch tv too and no kids can play. Be on the look out for a fever of 103.........I pray for your friend.......

 

[jpeter]

Professional sports listed, is youth sports included?

Nope they are two separate entities.

Let's see the guidance when it's put out and what's included for next Friday.

Schools and gym are a good start, rec centers, pools, playrounds would be nice to see included.

Seen the camp draft guidance previously so unless it's open to more people and/or activities pretty much a restrictive bummer for most kids.

 

[Chalklines]

Remember it is a contact sport, especially for the olders.

And so is shopping at Ralphs lately. Where are you going with this?

 

[Kicker4Life]

Curious which ones?

Not my place to say

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Ballooning Virus Count in my view is a non-issue for the most part (good to review trends though); testing frequency increased tremendously, one of the big reasons that state governments have changed their opening requirements to the Death trend....

I'm surprised they aren't using hospitalizations / ICU patients as that would lead the death trend a bit. It does appear that cases are not as strong an indicator of hospitalizations as they had been. Also, while it has been mentioned that GA opened up "the right way", it could also simply be that they opened up at the right time - late spring and early summer. The flu typically drops then as well.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

The problem is it is hard to use any decline in hospitalizations or deaths as a basis things are better because generally speaking hospitalizations and deaths represent what was going on about a month ago which is when we were in lock down. The life cycle of the disease is such that what we are doing now will be reflected in hospitalizations and deaths about a month from now. We opened up and had protests so the effects of that (if any) will start to show in about a month.

Everything I see indicates it's a little less than 2 weeks on average from infection (4-5 days to symptoms) to hospitalization (5-10 days after symptoms). Positive tests should show up in less than a week after infection if people get tested when symptomatic.

Coronavirus COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) | Johns Hopkins ABX Guide

Up-to-date Coronavirus COVID-19 guidance for physicians & pharmacists from Johns Hopkins ABX. Disease spectrum, testing, and clinical trials for vaccines, remdesivir, dexamethasone discussed.

www.hopkinsguides.com

 

[Desert Hound]

The party of science. Anyone care to square this circle?

All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.

 

[Desert Hound]

Oh and if the above didn't give you a chuckle....read what supposed "health experts" had to say about the protests and why protesting is OK during the covid situation.

Science. Get it while you can. Changes apparently for some based on politics. Follow the link below and you can see the letter and the names of the smart people who advocate for this.

"More than a thousand public health experts signed an open letter specifically stating that "we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people in the United States."

Public Health Experts Have Undermined Their Own Case for the COVID-19 Lockdowns

In theory, the mass protests following the alleged murder of George Floyd put public health officials who have ceaselessly inveighed against mass

reason.com

 

[Emma]

Oh and if the above didn't give you a chuckle....read what supposed "health experts" had to say about the protests and why protesting is OK during the covid situation.

Science. Get it while you can. Changes apparently for some based on politics. Follow the link below and you can see the letter and the names of the smart people who advocate for this.

"More than a thousand public health experts signed an open letter specifically stating that "we do not condemn these gatherings as risky for COVID-19 transmission. We support them as vital to the national public health and to the threatened health specifically of Black people in the United States."

Public Health Experts Have Undermined Their Own Case for the COVID-19 Lockdowns

In theory, the mass protests following the alleged murder of George Floyd put public health officials who have ceaselessly inveighed against mass

reason.com

Here's my best guess: Social gatherings and childcare groups do not keep their distance and generally do not wear masks while protestors can still stay 6 feet apart and will wear masks. We've not been to any gatherings in which children or adults are able to maintain social distancing or keep their masks on but maybe it's because our friends and family are weak

 

[lancer]

300 new cases reported in OC today. More than any another day.

 

[Desert Hound]

Here's my best guess: Social gatherings and childcare groups do not keep their distance and generally do not wear masks while protestors can still stay 6 feet apart and will wear masks. We've not been to any gatherings in which children or adults are able to maintain social distancing or keep their masks on but maybe it's because our friends and family are weak

Like how these protesters in the county do it?

 

[Kicker4Life]

300 new cases reported in OC today. More than any another day.

Almost like 2 days backlog

 

[Desert Hound]

Or maybe these protesters in Contra Costa?

 

[Emma]

Like how these protesters in the county do it?

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Appears most are wearing face masks plus they have those large poster boards to protect themselves too. The other protestors probably need more poster boards. Haha The other photo is too far and I can't tell if people are wearing masks. I hope they let groups of 24 athletes train together. I can't wait to kick my children out of my house. For soccer, that is.