NEW ECNL CHAT

Ellejustus said:
My first Surf Cup was amazing. It was the last year I believe of just one group, the best of the best. I have been to 5 Surf Cups and two ECNL Showcases, both in Arizona. ECNL is Lexus and old Surf Cup was Toyota. Now, Surf Cup is like a Ford Focus. Too many teams. Charge more and make it more exclusive and only bring in the best of the best and you might have a Lexus or at the very least a Toyota.

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That was in 2016, and I agree it was great when all of the top teams were in the same Best of the Best bracket at Surf. The following year really sucked, when the GDA teams had their own bracket, they played a weekend before the other non GDA brackets, and you had multiple teams winning their bracket in the same age group claiming to be the Best of the Best and not being to play each other. There is some hope with the dissolution of the GDA, and no league having their own special bracket, it goes back to its glory days. Although with a lot of the top teams now going to Silverlakes, I don't think Surf will ever be as glorious.
 
wc_baller said:
Surf Cup older girls had 200 teams in 2019. The comparison is based on the quality of the event. I'll ask you again, have you ever attended either one? It's laughable that you think you're able to compare without having ever been. If you ask anyone who's been to both, I bet they will tell you that the quality and organization of ECNL events are better than the Surf Cup.
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You painted it as a logistical challenge. The logistical challenge is not high level olders. The hard logistics are low level youngers. More kids and more parents per acre.

The Surf I know is the youngers madhouse. As Dominic said, a ton of fun. But a much larger logistics challenge than an event with 2000 kids.
 
My dd had the honor to play in 4 of 4 Monday Surf Cup Finals and come out on top of two of them. Last year sucked!!! No playoffs, just three showcase games with zero Ganas. Plus, they had three groups and someone decided who the "best of the best" were and it pissed others off. All GDA too. Go figure........Not a smart marketing move at all!!! That was dumb!!! But hey, what do I know. Get back to the basics and what brought you the brand that it is today, "Best of the Best on the West Coast Surf Cup 2020"
 
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dad4 said:
They did make their own awesome league. It’s called GA.

Best of all, GA can solve their travel problems by taking a page from the ECNL playbook and accepting lots of good, but not exceptional, clubs. Without head to head competition, parents won’t know the difference.

ECNL can tell a story about how they are the only top league in the country with top teams like Blues. GA can tell a story about how they are the real top league, with great teams like Top Hat. And we can all drive past each other on our way to our diluted “elite” games.

Thanks, Slammers. Thanks, Blues. Great system. Genius.
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GT45 said:
Is your club in the ECNL Regional League? If so, I suspect your DOC does care a lot about being in ECNL. Did your club try to get into ECNL? If so I suspect your DOC cares a lot about being in ECNL.
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You are obviously a parent of a ulittle or a player just entering the league with
supercell said:
I presume there is something like an annual fee the clubs pay to ECNL or GA for each season to cover administration. Since GA has no infrastructure for this, are the fees higher? If the fed couldn't support it, it seems like GA costs have to now be covered by the membership. How does this work?
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Probably quite well since US soccer screwed everyone to fund their youth national teams and their international competition and pay high salaries to themselves.
 
Copa9 said:
You are obviously a parent of a ulittle or a player just entering the league with

Probably quite well since US soccer screwed everyone to fund their youth national teams and their international competition and pay high salaries to themselves.
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Copa9 said:
You are obviously a parent of a ulittle or a player just entering the league with

Probably quite well since US soccer screwed everyone to fund their youth national teams and their international competition and pay high salaries to themselves.
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Yep. Just ulittle. A ton of things I dont get yet.
 
I have officially retired from Politics and Religion on social forums. I will stay on point and only talk Soccer from now on :)

What does elephant in room mean?
an elephant in the room. informal. If you say there is an elephant in the room, you mean that there is an obvious problem or difficult situation that people do not want to talk about. Difficult situations and unpleasant experiences. a (heavy) cross to bear idiom
 
jpeter said:
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Only 2 states so far with 3 more listed between now and June 15.

Starts with 9 players and a coach and not until phase 5 full play, 2 weeks each phase so 6-10 weeks minium once started.
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"6-10 weeks minimum" once began? Where do you get number bigger than 6 weeks from? Are you meaning until they can play league games? Even then it is 6 weeks. Genuinely asking as maybe you misread it or maybe I did.....

Phase 1 which is 2 weeks at home is already complete...... then Phase 2 which is 2 weeks with 9 + coach..... then Phase 3 which is 2 weeks with 18 + coach...... then Phase 4 is 2 weeks of unrestricted team training before formal competition.......

So how I read it is once cleared to return it is 4 weeks of no contact training after which you can begin scrimmages and then 2 weeks of contact training before you can get into Phase 5 of tournaments or league games.....
 
futboldad1 said:
"6-10 weeks minimum" once began? Where do you get number bigger than 6 weeks from? Are you meaning until they can play league games? Even then it is 6 weeks. Genuinely asking as maybe you misread it or maybe I did.....

Phase 1 which is 2 weeks at home is already complete...... then Phase 2 which is 2 weeks with 9 + coach..... then Phase 3 which is 2 weeks with 18 + coach...... then Phase 4 is 2 weeks of unrestricted team training before formal competition.......

So how I read it is once cleared to return it is 4 weeks of no contact training after which you can begin scrimmages and then 2 weeks of contact training before you can get into Phase 5 of tournaments or league games.....
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6 weeks is the minimum if you meet all the guidelines, 2 weeks each phase. Page 4 in the PDF. 5x2 =10 wks but could be 6,8,or 10 weeks thus the 6-10.

Olders haven't played in 3-4 months getting back to full play in less than 10 weeks would be challenge for them, maybe 6 weeks for youngers or so but depends as the guidelines suggest. We're all hopefully but that's there guidelines.
 
jpeter said:
6 weeks is the minimum if you meet all the guidelines, 2 weeks each phase. Page 4 in the PDF. 5x2 =10 weeks.

Olders haven't played in 3-4 months getting back to full play in less than 10 weeks would be challenge for them, maybe 6 weeks for youngers or so but depends as the guidelines suggest.
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Got it..... but the two weeks for training at home is what every ECNL player or team should have been doing anyway and they do not need clearance for that to begin right now if they had not been .....
 
futboldad1 said:
Got it..... but the two weeks for training at home is what every ECNL player or team should have been doing anyway and they do not need clearance for that to begin right now if they had not been .....
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Yes they should have plenty of lead time to get those first two weeks in.

The 2nd phase is only 9 players + coach so that's going to be a challenge with double that amount and field availability, can that get done in only 2 weeks?
 
None of this PDF really matters until your county hits phase 3. For many that could be first 2 weeks of June and could be on pace to play 11v11 games when normal ECNL league season would begin. Other counties may not follow that final step. Will counties that don't have main HS fall sports going allow fields to be used for club soccer normal games? I imagine many use city and school fields. Some may have their own field but a small percentage.
 
as i posted in another thread, don't forget that if your state/county is still requiring facemasks if within 6ft then all players will have to wear them if they are going to play anything that resembles normal soccer. Facemask requirement will likely be the last to be repealed, especially here in Cali.
 
ECNL now has 9 regions.

North East- 9 teams
North Atlantic- 9 teams
Ohio Valley- 10 teams
Midwest- 11 teams
South East- 12 teams
Texas- 12 teams
Mid Atlantic- 13 teams
South West- 14 teams
North West- 23 teams

Wonder if they eventually split up the North West into 8/8/7 or 16/7?

I'd expect clubs like Beach, Legends, West Coast, Pats, Sporting Blue Valley & FC Virginia (who are playing in ECNL-R this year) to be strong candidates for next season.
 
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