Is your club in the ECNL Regional League? If so, I suspect your DOC does care a lot about being in ECNL. Did your club try to get into ECNL? If so I suspect your DOC cares a lot about being in ECNL.
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Your argument is that DA/GA clubs dont know how to run showcases?
Top Hat runs one already. Nor are they the only GA club who know how to run a large tournament.
Enough with sowing fear. Yes, they have a lot of work to do. I wish them luck.
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I presume there is something like an annual fee the clubs pay to ECNL or GA for each season to cover administration. Since GA has no infrastructure for this, are the fees higher? If the fed couldn't support it, it seems like GA costs have to now be covered by the membership. How does this work?
Wow, sounds like a Spin Doctor. That's why soccer in America has been spinning around in circles chasing it's own tail and not chasing the opponents tail!!!
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you could be right...maybe he did care but moved on to become a key founding member of the GA.
Hey bro, I remember when you first came on here. I love the work ethic of your dd and how she's kicking ass. GAL in Socal will be strong and we should all respect each league in Socal. I could start a new thread, SW ECNL vs SW GALs...the toxic war continues in Socal? I can say if the top GAL teams keep most of their top goats, the best team in Socal could come from a GAL team. We should have a socal championship game at the end of next season between the top SW ECNL team and the top SW GAL team. I like that your standing up for your league.
BTW, I just saw a video of the next great one. Only 6 years old......
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@Luis Andres. Tell Flash she has someone on her heels big time. @MacDre, my dd is the Rocket. I was curious if your dd has a super power? I know she is smart. I remember my old HS Catcher Damon Berryhill telling me about catching the great Greg Maddox. Maddox would only let Bear catch him, no one else. He would tell me that Maddox was a geek and nerd and the nicest guy in the world. But when he pitched, he became a silent assassin when those glasses came off. Happy Memorial Day Weekend to the both of you
Youngster cruises through intense soccer drill - ESPN Video
A 6-year-old shows his serious technical ability in these at-home soccer drills.
@Luis Andres. Tell Flash she has someone on her heels big time. @MacDre, my dd is the Rocket. I was curious if your dd has a super power? I know she is smart. I remember my old HS Catcher Damon Berryhill telling me about catching the great Greg Maddox. Maddox would only let Bear catch him, no one else. He would tell me that Maddox was a geek and nerd and the nicest guy in the world. But when he pitched, he became a silent assassin when those glasses came off. Happy Memorial Day Weekend to the both of you
LOL. That's you're entire takeaway from that? Way to totally miss the entire point. Showcases and scheduling are just two small examples why a national league is different than a local league. Stick to NorCal NPL, my dude, and quit crying about two leagues you're not involved in.
Let’s hope maybe it isn’t toxic..?
watching Köln vs Düsseldorf playing right now...two cities a half hour apart with total disdain for people from opposing city!
Not the only takeaway. You also claimed that working around HS soccer seasons is a super hard scheduling problem.
There are local leagues that accomodate religious groups with two different definitions of the Sabbath. Four months blocked out for HS soccer is nothing compared to one side saying “never Saturday” and the other side saying “never Sunday”. That one is tricky.
Beyond showcases and schedules, I don’t think you made any arguments. A couple ad-hominem attacks against me, but they didn’t seem worth replying to.
off to watch Koln. got to get my priorities straight.
Again, scheduling and showcases were just two small examples of national league complexities, but just sticking to those two examples..... If a conference has teams from states that have their high school season at different times of the year, they can’t compete against each other for 8 months out of a 10 month season. In your example about a local league planning around Sabbath, that still leaves them with 5 out of 7 days in the week to play games, and since all the teams are within driving distance that is much simpler than planning games between teams from different states.
As far a the showcase thing is concerned, if you think planning multiple national events like an ECNL showcase at different locations all over the country is as simple as planning a local or regional event like the Tophat showcase with a very limited number of teams, I don’t know what to tell you. If you’ve been to one, you’d know the difference, and there is no comparison. It’s like comparing 7-11 to Whole Foods.
My old roommate after HS would drink a 12 pack of Coors Lite and then head over to AM/PM across the street from our house and buy two hot dogs with cheese all over it. He would then puke and then drink some more. Never met anyone like Kent, who could pound beer like that. I had the pizza slices at 7-11 and no comment. The pizza slices at whole foods is legit and super tasty
7-11 Pizza Slice vs Whole Foods Pizza Slice
Can you see the difference?
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ECNL and NV high school are in the fall. Our state allows club and hs play at the same time. It is difficult with the travel but all the HS coaches know ECNL comes first and players know ECNL comes first. It was a big issue a couple years ago on the girls side as the PHX Showcase fell on the same weekend as the State Championships. One team who thought they would win lost a big bulk of their starters that weekend and were very upset.
The ECNL showcases are mostly under 200 teams.
As events go, that is pretty small. Why compare it to Surf? That is deliberately misleading. By team count, a showcase is considerably smaller than most regional tournaments.
The right comparison is Draegers versus Safeway. And ECNL/GA showcases are Draegers.
Probably safer for the kids if they gave you blackout dates for the HS season. Neither LA nor NV has a snow problem. Why play both at once? You both have 12 months of warm weather to pick from.
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Nevada has Reno. Tough playing in the snow for them. Reno dictates the Hs soccer schedule for whatever reason. They also think they will have an easier time with the club girls being away during the Phoenix Showcase. Thus the schedule.
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NV is a fall high school season for many reasons. One being, there is snow in Northern NV in the winter so fields there would be hard to come by. Most high schools do not have lighted soccer fields so games would be tough to schedule in the winter and the football fields are used for girls flag football (its a thing). There may be some sort of Title IX with the use of lights as well per one principal i asked. So we play both hs and a modified ECNL fall schedule with a heavy spring ECNL schedule.
Surf Cup older girls had 200 teams in 2019. The comparison is based on the quality of the event. I'll ask you again, have you ever attended either one? It's laughable that you think you're able to compare without having ever been. If you ask anyone who's been to both, I bet they will tell you that the quality and organization of ECNL events are better than the Surf Cup.
My first Surf Cup was amazing. It was the last year I believe of just one group, the best of the best. I have been to 5 Surf Cups and two ECNL Showcases, both in Arizona. ECNL is Lexus and old Surf Cup was Toyota. Now, Surf Cup is like a Ford Focus. Too many teams. Charge more and make it more exclusive and only bring in the best of the best and you might have a Lexus or at the very least a Toyota.
