Some data on Covid-19 and why we're not over reacting...

Torros said:
Any of these clowns know how many Flu related deaths have been reported this year? Or maybe how much $$ hospitals receive when they report a Covid 19 death?
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First of all, what a stupid question. I'm a "clown" because I don't know how many flu deaths? Secondly, look it up, dumbass. Thirdly, wow! It's a giant worldwide hospital conspiracy! Thanks.
 
messy said:
First of all, what a stupid question. I'm a "clown" because I don't know how many flu deaths? Secondly, look it up, dumbass. Thirdly, wow! It's a giant worldwide hospital conspiracy! Thanks.
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Why would that be a stupid question? Only a clown would think that's a stupid question. I guess the clown shoe fit then.

Second of all , I knew the answer already. Just trying to give the less educated, like yourself, something to do.

Now go find out how much $$ Hospitals are making for a Covid 19 reported death. I'll be back this Summer to give you your grade. Good luck!
 
messy said:
Dude, stop being such a whiny little pussy, please. Go get some exercise...I just took a long hard bike ride in the hills.
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Hmmmm........

It's " OK " for a LIBERAL to utilize the word ( " Pussy " or any other word for that matter...) in a retort, but whoa..
if a " NON LIBERAL " uses any word the UNDECLARED LIBERAL FORUM MODERATOR at the time
deems is offensive due to their very thin skinned nature....oh boy...watch out !
They will send you a PM ( With their " Supposed " Ph # ) and threaten you with physical harm....as if any
clear thinking individual would :
A. Call the number.
B. Subject themselves to the wrath of a Human infected with TDS syndrome.

So now this poster.. " Messy " Financials narrative is " Go get some exercise "....Ignore the TRUTH being
exposed about Democrats and Rhinos .....just " Go get some exercise "....

Nah....I Don't Think So....

" We The People " will exercise our right to FREEDOM and part of that is ...

FREEDOM OF SPEECH !


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Torros said:
Why would that be a stupid question? Only a clown would think that's a stupid question. I guess the clown shoe fit then.

Second of all , I knew the answer already. Just trying to give the less educated, like yourself, something to do.

Now go find out how much $$ Hospitals are making for a Covid 19 reported death. I'll be back this Summer to give you your grade. Good luck!
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Still can't answer, can you, dummy? You can't confirm that it's a worldwide hospital conspiracy? Ha!
 
messy said:
Still can't answer, can you, dummy? You can't confirm that it's a worldwide hospital conspiracy? Ha!
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Hey " Messy " Financial......why do use the term " Worldwide " when it was never used in the posts
and is NOT applicable to the TRUTHFUL post by TORROS....


See below the United States CDC Postmortem guidelines:


www.cdc.gov

Healthcare Workers

COVID-19 guidance, tools, and resources for healthcare workers.
www.cdc.gov www.cdc.gov


Minnesota Senator's comments are factually TRUE.....the numbers can be disputed at a
very narrow plus/minus rate .....but what he stated is TRUE...

www.factcheck.org

Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org

Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org



RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE " Messy " Financial......

How would you like your plate of Crow....Hot or Cold...!


" An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation looked at average Medicare payments for hospital admissions for the existing diagnosis-related groups and noted that the “average Medicare payment for respiratory infections and inflammations with major comorbidities or complications in 2017 … was $13,297. For more severe hospitalizations, we use the average Medicare payment for a respiratory system diagnosis with ventilator support for greater than 96 hours, which was $40,218.”


It is true, however, that the government will pay more to hospitals for COVID-19 cases in two senses: By paying an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients during the public health emergency, and by reimbursing hospitals for treating the uninsured patients with the disease (at that enhanced Medicare rate).


Both of those provisions stem from the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or CARES Act. "

 
Still can't answer, can you, dummy? You can't confirm that it's a worldwide hospital conspiracy? Ha!

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I just heard Ca hospitals are at under 50% capacity and going broke.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Still can't answer, can you, dummy? You can't confirm that it's a worldwide hospital conspiracy? Ha!
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I just heard Ca hospitals are at under 50% capacity and going broke.
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But Spain and Italy and UK and France have a lot fewer people than us combined and they have many more deaths. Do they have hospital conspiracies too?
LOLOL!
 
Sheriff Joe said:
I just heard Ca hospitals are at under 50% capacity and going broke.
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Hospitals are under capacity because elective cosmetic surgery and therapies that can be delayed a few months without much consequence to the patient (hip and knee replacements, for example) are not being performed as much as they were a few months ago.

I also heard on the medical industry grapevine before this whole pandemic started that American hospitals, especially those in Southern California, have been overbuilt in the last few years. When I was a patient in the shiny new Palomar Hospital two years ago, a good many floors were empty, and I heard later from someone in the industry that some of the new technology therapies installed as part of the new construction, such as robotic surgery, were closed down because they couldn't find enough patients to keep the doctors they had recruited busy enough to meet expenses. Some left for other specialties or other hospitals that were busier and thus where they could earn more.
 
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espola said:
Hospitals are under capacity because elective cosmetic surgery and therapies that can be delayed a few months without much consequence to the patient (hip and knee replacements, for example) are not being performed as much as they were a few months ago.

I also heard on the medical industry grapevine before this whole pandemic started that American hospitals, especially those in Southern California, have been overbuilt in the last few years. When I was a patient in the shiny new Palomar Hospital two years ago, a good many floors were empty, and I heard later from someone in the industry that some of the new technology therapies installed as part of the new construction, such as robotic surgery, were closed down because they couldn't find enough patients to keep the doctors they had recruited busy enough to meet expenses. Some left for other specialties or other hospitals that were busier and thus where they could earn more.
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Then why the need to destroy the US economy in order to supposedly "flatten the curve"?
This was the rationale in government mandated lockdown.
 
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