LA Surf Implodes

[methood]

Check this @Soccer22 . It was a cold Spring afternoon back in 2018, so cold I was wearing a jacket outside. I received a call from the Doc. It was great news. He was letting me know he will never chase a parent to stay at his academy. I thanked him for that. He then offered my dd a spot on the ECNL 02 team so I could finally get was I was demanding, which is to allow my dd some play ups. It was forbidden by the club unless US Soccer Scouts demanded it. We said no TY and two months later, I got a news feed marketing this new league called, Developmental Players League, for those who show some promise.

Development Players League is a regionally based league which provides a clear pathway for players who show the potential to make the jump to the DA level of play. The DPL teams will offer players who excel to have the opportunity to be called up as a Development Player for their respective DA teams.

The truth imo is this new league was created to keep players from leaving the family and checking out other families to hang with for 10 months, like ECNL or SCDSL or just HS Soccer only. Come to think about it, some of us are with soccer families more than their own families sometimes. That's not good either imo. To be fair to some clubs, they have no clue either with, "whats going on" so they sit in limbo as well. So many leagues, clubs, teams and coaches trying to know understand fact from fiction.

BTW, I feel sorry for the folks in SW Riverside. Good luck out there. My advice to everyone is to be patient and don;t take the first offer that comes your way for the 2020-2021 season. You have time, trust me Spots will be available

Ah yes the DPL.

what I don’t understand is this.

-club has DA and DPL.
-kid plays on DPL promising a chance to move up.
-tryouts come for DA and your kid doesn’t make the team even after playing on DPL team. But a kid from another club who never has been apart of that “family” makes it.
-so did the DPL coach fail the DPL player?

Why do clubs with a lot of teams hold tryouts for their DA team? Don’t they have a well of players in their own club? I feel bad for DPL players. Basically saying to them: “you’re not good enough for DA, and when tryouts come, we will take a random kid over you.”

 

[Soccerhelper]

Ah yes the DPL.

what I don’t understand is this.

-club has DA and DPL.
-kid plays on DPL promising a chance to move up.
-tryouts come for DA and your kid doesn’t make the team even after playing on DPL team. But a kid from another club who never has been apart of that “family” makes it.
-so did the DPL coach fail the DPL player?

Why do clubs with a lot of teams hold tryouts for their DA team? Don’t they have a well of players in their own club? I feel bad for DPL players. Basically saying to them: “you’re not good enough for DA, and when tryouts come, we will take a random kid over you.”

Bingo!!!

 

[LadiesMan217]

Ah yes the DPL.

what I don’t understand is this.

-club has DA and DPL.
-kid plays on DPL promising a chance to move up.
-tryouts come for DA and your kid doesn’t make the team even after playing on DPL team. But a kid from another club who never has been apart of that “family” makes it.
-so did the DPL coach fail the DPL player?

Why do clubs with a lot of teams hold tryouts for their DA team? Don’t they have a well of players in their own club? I feel bad for DPL players. Basically saying to them: “you’re not good enough for DA, and when tryouts come, we will take a random kid over you.”

Maybe it is time for the DPL player to try another sport - not hard to understand at all.

 

[dad4]

I have the opposite take on DPL. If DA is the best kids from the region, then there isn't preference for DPL kids. (Same goes for "pre-ECNL")

DPL gets you visibility and the benefit of the DA club's coaching system, but that is about it. They are still going to take the best player they can see. Might be dd, might not.

Dont let it make you mad. As long as your coach helps your kid and she is getting good games, enjoy it.

 

[espola]

I have the opposite take on DPL. If DA is the best kids from the region, then there isn't preference for DPL kids. (Same goes for "pre-ECNL")

DPL gets you visibility and the benefit of the DA club's coaching system, but that is about it. They are still going to take the best player they can see. Might be dd, might not.

Dont let it make you mad. As long as your coach helps your kid and she is getting good games, enjoy it.

So then what does the "D" in DA or DPL stand for?

 

[Giesbock]

My kid played a solid season with her DPL team, got invited to guest play with DA, made the most of it which led to DA showcase games in San Diego and Sarasota. Now dual roster. Scored 2 in yesterday’s DA game.
Maybe it’s not super common but in this instance, DPL was the stepping stone to DA opportunity.

 

[Soccerhelper]

Maybe it is time for the DPL player to try another sport - not hard to understand at all.

I have to disagree with that. College is out there at all levels. D1, mid D1, D2, D3, NAIA and so on. We should have leagues that put players in their right place and I say that with all respect to all soccer players. If my dd took the ECNL deal two years ago she would have been trapped because they told everyone at the last minute DPL, no ECNL and to be happy and not ask for a refund. Let's just say for argument sake my dd became a developmental player and dominated. Maybe like her playing JV instead of Varsity. I would have all the DPL parents all mad because my dd is scoring 5 goals a game. To be clear, my dd would never pull that stunt and would figure out a way to play possession with the whole team and share the ball with others. Just like Magic but with a better shot when called on to take a shot

 

[timbuck]

My kid played a solid season with her DPL team, got invited to guest play with DA, made the most of it which led to DA showcase games in San Diego and Sarasota. Now dual roster. Scored 2 in yesterday’s DA game.
Maybe it’s not super common but in this instance, DPL was the stepping stone to DA opportunity.

But if DPL didn’t exist, her team would be playing flight 1 or gold. And the DA team could still pull players up. And the club could still use the “da training methods”. But you wouldn’t have to travel to AZ, NV and Utah for league games.

 

[Soccerhelper]

But if DPL didn’t exist, her team would be playing flight 1 or gold. And the DA team could still pull players up. And the club could still use the “da training methods”. But you wouldn’t have to travel to AZ, NV and Utah for league games.

I don;t want to bash leagues anymore. I've done enough of that already. We need standard recruiting regulations quickly. Standard something because it's crazy out there for some parents.

 

[Soccerhelper]

My kid played a solid season with her DPL team, got invited to guest play with DA, made the most of it which led to DA showcase games in San Diego and Sarasota. Now dual roster. Scored 2 in yesterday’s DA game.
Maybe it’s not super common but in this instance, DPL was the stepping stone to DA opportunity.

Sounds like a great player. Why DPL? HS Soccer?

 

[azsnowrider]

But if DPL didn’t exist, her team would be playing flight 1 or gold. And the DA team could still pull players up. And the club could still use the “da training methods”. But you wouldn’t have to travel to AZ, NV and Utah for league games.

What DPL team is traveling to Nevada and Utah for “league“ games? There is no DPL teams in Nevada or Utah. That “Utah” team is actually in AZ, Been over this a dozen times.

You guys in so cal crack me up when it comes to travel. NOBODY travels like AZ and Nevada for any league. Quite frankly you have it good In So Cal. I should ask for residency the amount of times we go to Cali.

 

[Soccerhelper]

What DPL team is traveling to Nevada and Utah for “league“ games? There is no DPL teams in Nevada or Utah. That “Utah” team is actually in AZ, Been over this a dozen times.

You guys in so cal crack me up when it comes to travel. NOBODY travels like AZ and Nevada for any league. Quite frankly you have it good In So Cal. I should ask for residency the amount of times we go to Cali.

100% AZ has it the hardest. My buddy rents air bnb place over by Great Park and he's booked solid through the end of summer. He said some soccer parents rent from him over the weekend. PM me and I will send you contact info. We go to AZ three times a year now so maybe we can help each other. You can stay at my Laguna place for free if you let me stay at your place for free? All save money. Make sure to fill up on the AZ side too

 

[Soccerhelper]

As we ALL wait for news on the 2020-20201 season and how much more it will cost and what new exciting cities we from AZ and Socal get to explore, I have question. Do Part Time players get a discount in the DA?

 

[Soccerhelper]

I would like to propose this option for parents with kids who want to be at school everyday but would also like to play in some DA or ECNL games with ZERO travel requirements (mandates) in order to be on the team if that is even possible. I understand full time soccer players and their parents very well and let them have the extra fun. No disrespect to the other local leagues. This idea is for only the two big dogs in the room. Part Time Local Soccer Players (PTLSPs). Let's take average cost to join each league at $3K. Drop it for the PTLSP families to $2,000. You still get to train during the week and play 10 -12 games and help in the playoffs if the team makes the playoffs. Also, if the PTLSP is killing it the team knows the coach can play whomever the hell he wants to play, wherever on the field the coach feels will help the team win the championship

Some PM a couple questions:
Q. Does the PTLSPs players parents have to pay for all the travel dues and tournament fees and all the other extra fees that come along during the soccer season? Under my proposal, no! Only "true" cost is the actual cost, $2,000

Q. Should there be a limit on how many PTLSPs can be on a team? Yes 2? 4?
Q. Can we make sure that the club teaches the girls one is not better than the other and both decisions shall be respected? Yes

Side apology: I came on here back in July full of competitive ego and rubbed many wrong and I'm sorry for that. My bad 100%. I am work on respecting everyone that wants something from soccer.

 

[Soccerhelper]

I heard a rumor that some folks are telling parents to stay the hell off this forum or else. TMs know who you are and some have been told to monitor your social activities about the latest rumor and lies in the socal soccer world. All most of us want is some better information this time around I think. Some clubs are already announcing the coaching assignments while some clubs honestly don't know yet and their's nothing wrong with that. Folks, this has never been about development. It's about a business and how to recruit and keep players in your club with any means necessary to join or stay in the family so the family can grow to be the biggest and baddest family around. It's hard right now to look around for another family to travel with all over the country because everyone is in everyone's soccer business.

 

[RedCard]

I heard a rumor that some folks are telling parents to stay the hell off this forum or else. TMs know who you are and some have been told to monitor your social activities about the latest rumor and lies in the socal soccer world. All must of us want is some better information this time around I think. Some clubs are already announcing the coaching assignments while some clubs honestly don't know yet and their's nothing wrong with that. Folks, this has never been about development. It's about a business and how to recruit and keep players in your club with any means necessary to join or stay in the family so the family can grow to be the biggest and baddest family around. It's hard right now to look around for another family to travel with all over the country because everyone is in everyone's soccer business.

I've had "the talk" in the past a couple of times in regards of this forum...

 

[methood]

Maybe it is time for the DPL player to try another sport - not hard to understand at all.

That’s not the point I’m trying to make.

did the club FAIL the kid?

if the DA is the best team and you are on the “developmental” team but never get a chance because the club if always just having tryouts and finding players who have not been in the club for a few years...is that the coaches fault or their technical directors fault?

why are they even having tryouts when you should be promoting kids from within the system?

 

[methood]

I have zero problems with clubs have a “reserve team” or “pulling kids up”

DPL
ECNL2
etc etc



I have a Problem with clubs holding tryouts for their top teams when they should have developed kids who have been in their system for a while.

I know a player who was west coast F1 and then OC surf DPL all the way, until out of desperation by the TD, she finally got on the DA team her senior year.

there are no plans for your kids.... they are just a $4,000 injection into the club.

A former pro soccer player who is now a coach, would always sell these parents on a “two year plan” for their kids. New flash. There was no plan. His sessions were awful. No one got better and they all left.
Currently at a Denny’s after a game, eating French toast. I’m intermittent fasting and I’ve been “hangry”...I won’t say which Denny’s because that may give away to much personal information.

 

[Soccerhelper]

Same Club that used team names like “pre-USSDA” to help lure in players?
My point being historically that club seems to say anything they can get away with to lure in players.

Buyer beware!

I'm sure some of the ones who bought me have some buyers remorse too. Crazy dad got everything he almost wanted, free this and that and he's still freaking complaining.

 

[Soccerhelper]

I have zero problems with clubs have a “reserve team” or “pulling kids up”

DPL
ECNL2
etc etc



I have a Problem with clubs holding tryouts for their top teams when they should have developed kids who have been in their system for a while.

I know a player who was west coast F1 and then OC surf DPL all the way, until out of desperation by the TD, she finally got on the DA team her senior year.

there are no plans for your kids.... they are just a $4,000 injection into the club.

A former pro soccer player who is now a coach, would always sell these parents on a “two year plan” for their kids. New flash. There was no plan. His sessions were awful. No one got better and they all left.
Currently at a Denny’s after a game, eating French toast. I’m intermittent fasting and I’ve been “hangry”...I won’t say which Denny’s because that may give away to much personal information.

I cant afford Dennys anymore. I go across the street and get 2 tacos for 99. @ JACKS

 

[RedCard]

I cant afford Dennys anymore. I go across the street and get 2 tacos for 99. @ JACKS

Those are good, cheap tacos....