I have not really tracked per se, but from what I know in our club, I would say it's probably greater than 85% non contact versus contact. The weekend prior to my DD tearing hers, she took a knock in a game. Looked awkward, but got up and was fine. The following Thurs at practice she tore it non contact. Not sure if the knock had anything to do with it or not.
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Youngest Daughter... first Game, second scrimmage, third game... Oldest Daughter Practice
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I went back and watched the game my daughter just tore her ACL in. at the start of the game she made a run and took a pretty good shot and noticed she was limping after that. she would make runs and seemed fine but every time she stopped she had a limp. I didnt notice it watching live and she said she doesnt remember anything hurting but you can see her limping in the video. makes me wonder if she was changing the way she plants or moves her body and she didnt even realize it.
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My youngest had surgery on Thursday and everything went great. they didnt have to scrape any cartilage or what ever they do. he noticed a real small rip/tear in the outer meniscus and put 1 stitch in it.
My Older Daughter was cleared Wednesday to go back to soccer. shes at 7 months.
My youngest had surgery on Thursday and everything went great. they didnt have to scrape any cartilage or what ever they do. he noticed a real small rip/tear in the outer meniscus and put 1 stitch in it.
My Older Daughter was cleared Wednesday to go back to soccer. shes at 7 months.
Prayers up for both your girls. Mine has been training with one of her old coaches in prep for returning to team training which she plans to do next week. Hopefully she'll be ready to play middle next month, but we'll see.
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Similar to my dd but the knock she took was really bad. She was taken out of the game and everyone thought she tore her acl. Dr. said it was a sprain but no mri was done just PT. After about two weeks it was feeling better and then she tore it non contact in practice. She heard it pop. My guess is that it was just a matter of time after that knock she took. The good news is she continues to feel real strong and is killing in in prep for the Spring season.
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Congrats on getting one cleared and that the other one's surgery went well. Keep us updated. Expect the older daughters knee to get sore as she continues to recover. Its part of the process.
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Good thing there is no rush. The main thing is that she comes back strong for college.
I tore my knee "officially" when I was 29. However, I played a little a college ball and felt something after I landed on my left knee going for a dunk.........jk, only in my dreams. I was going up for a layup and landed wrong. I think I got my first slight tear when that happen. It ripped completely on me at 29. I want to say to all those players putting in the extra work of rehab to keep working hard. I hated every minute of rehab and I actually put little effort into it. Because I cut corners, I'm paying a big price today for it. Work hard at rehab is my gr8t advice for today
My kid just finished her HS season and toward the end, after writing was on the wall, I was actually happy and relieved to see her safe on the bench.
HS play is tough. 14 year old freshmen vs. 18 year old seniors....
When my kid goes down with repeated ankle dings, I cringe every time and can hardly imagine the gut wrenching nurturing-parent pain that comes with serious injury to loved ones.
man o man I can only wish the best for your loved ones.
HS play is tough. 14 year old freshmen vs. 18 year old seniors....
When my kid goes down with repeated ankle dings, I cringe every time and can hardly imagine the gut wrenching nurturing-parent pain that comes with serious injury to loved ones.
man o man I can only wish the best for your loved ones.
Why do some of these players in HS kill the ankles? I've never seen so many ding marks on my dd ankles. She walks around after a game like one of those old NFL players.
My buddy and I went to Laguna Beach in early 80s. His dd is on our team and is 14 too and starts on defense. She holds her own but its super rough going up against 18 year old Seniors. Every game she either gets hurt or is really super duper sore. Gr8t forum legends like @MakeAPlay and others all swear that HS Soccer is gr8t way to prepare for college ball. I watched some college games this year and the girls play really rough and tough soccer so I'm in agreement with them. We do our best to play possession. However, when you play a team like Marina or Newport Harbor that has girls so tall you would think they were basketball or volleyball players, you sometimes have to go into survival moad and pray your keeper keeps making one gr8t save after another and your one or two counters each half finds the net or you tie. No more ties. I hate ties but I understand why in regular season. I do believe this experience for our kids will be good in the long run
Wow, I watch my DD like a hawk and hope I could catch any changes in her gait after hard contact or a physical event. I noticed one stumble during a practice and asked her if she had a twitch in her knee. She said "Dad, I caught my cleat in the shoelace, I'm good!" We try and watch for the enjoyment of her playing the game she loves, but that fear is always on our minds.
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Im the same way and was surprised i didnt catch it. the last part of club season before high school i finally started enjoying watching her play and not just excited at the end when she walked off the field and that took me a year in half.
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14 years old against 18 year old is great experience for college where it is 18 year old against 22 year old.
Good catch. After I wrote that I'm not sure it's such a gr8t idea unless you physically can handle it
Kareem had to play Freshman hoops only at UCLA so maybe the Freshman in HS should play Fr only. His team of Fr did beat the older team 
Inside the push to stop female footballers suffering so many ACL injuries
Female athletes are far more susceptible to cruciate damage and one man is particularly determined to find a solution
www.theguardian.com
This may have already been touched upon in prior posts, but this is an interesting article addressing neuromuscular imbalances specifically in female athletes which appear to be an underlying mechanism for ACL injuries.
Ideas of quad dominance and underuse of hamstrings and glutes leading to imbalance, "ligament dominance" due to said weakness/imbalance putting too much stress on ligaments ie ACL, limb dominance where non kicking vs kicking leg develop differently since non kicking leg bears more load (which may go both ways as kicking leg isn't as developed), and core/trunk weakness leading to more force/stress being transmitted to joints.
These are the targets of neuromuscular training / prevention programs which, at least based on two recent papers cited, has been shown to rates of ACL injuries.
A 2-yr Biomechanically Informed ACL Injury Prevention... : Translational Journal of the American College of Sports Medicine
ally informed ACL injury prevention training program in reducing injury risk and injury incidence and investigated its effect on athletic performance. Participants Twenty-six elite female field hockey players participated in this study. Methods Athletes participated in a 2-yr injury prevention...
journals.lww.com
Meta-analysis of meta-analyses of anterior cruciate ligament injury reduction training programs - PubMed
Several meta-analyses have been published on the effectiveness of anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury prevention training programs to reduce ACL injury risk, with various degrees of risk reduction reported. The purpose of this research was to perform a systematic review and meta-analysis of...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I'm especially intrigued by the 1st paper, which tested a program for elite female field hockey players over 2 years with ZERO ACL injuries after implementation. According to the 1st author in her twitter feed, the exercises are simple, and the program was designed for coach autonomy and feasibility to be placed in any sport setting.
To me this is an epidemic. And I don't think this should be left to individuals to figure this out and do on their own time.
I feel a dedicated prevention program should be MANDATORY in all clubs, and even HS programs. Our DDs DA program already has one day set aside for fitness/strength training, but nothing that looks like an ACL prevention program. Great, kids gets faster and stronger, but what good is that if they end up blowing out an ACL and missing up to a year recovering?
I could not agree with you more about making this a mandatory program in all clubs. Just fold it into what they do for training and games... Takes 15 minutes. It's negligance that they don't.Inside the push to stop female footballers suffering so many ACL injuries
Female athletes are far more susceptible to cruciate damage and one man is particularly determined to find a solution
This may have already been touched upon in prior posts, but this is an interesting article addressing neuromuscular imbalances specifically in female athletes which appear to be an underlying mechanism for ACL injuries.
Ideas of quad dominance and underuse of hamstrings and glutes leading to imbalance, "ligament dominance" due to said weakness/imbalance putting too much stress on ligaments ie ACL, limb dominance where non kicking vs kicking leg develop differently since non kicking leg bears more load (which may go both ways as kicking leg isn't as developed), and core/trunk weakness leading to more force/stress being transmitted to joints.
These are the targets of neuromuscular training / prevention programs which, at least based on two recent papers cited, has been shown to rates of ACL injuries.
A 2-yr Biomechanically Informed ACL Injury Prevention... : Translational Journal of the American College of Sports Medicine
ally informed ACL injury prevention training program in reducing injury risk and injury incidence and investigated its effect on athletic performance. Participants Twenty-six elite female field hockey players participated in this study. Methods Athletes participated in a 2-yr injury prevention...
Meta-analysis of meta-analyses of anterior cruciate ligament injury reduction training programs - PubMed
Several meta-analyses have been published on the effectiveness of anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury prevention training programs to reduce ACL injury risk, with various degrees of risk reduction reported. The purpose of this research was to perform a systematic review and meta-analysis of...
I'm especially intrigued by the 1st paper, which tested a program for elite female field hockey players over 2 years with ZERO ACL injuries after implementation. According to the 1st author in her twitter feed, the exercises are simple, and the program was designed for coach autonomy and feasibility to be placed in any sport setting.
To me this is an epidemic. And I don't think this should be left to individuals to figure this out and do on their own time.
I feel a dedicated prevention program should be MANDATORY in all clubs, and even HS programs. Our DDs DA program already has one day set aside for fitness/strength training, but nothing that looks like an ACL prevention program. Great, kids gets faster and stronger, but what good is that if they end up blowing out an ACL and missing up to a year recovering?
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Thank You for sharing... if it has been shared before thats okay if someone is seeing it for the first time. More information is never a bad thingInside the push to stop female footballers suffering so many ACL injuries
Female athletes are far more susceptible to cruciate damage and one man is particularly determined to find a solution
This may have already been touched upon in prior posts, but this is an interesting article addressing neuromuscular imbalances specifically in female athletes which appear to be an underlying mechanism for ACL injuries.
Ideas of quad dominance and underuse of hamstrings and glutes leading to imbalance, "ligament dominance" due to said weakness/imbalance putting too much stress on ligaments ie ACL, limb dominance where non kicking vs kicking leg develop differently since non kicking leg bears more load (which may go both ways as kicking leg isn't as developed), and core/trunk weakness leading to more force/stress being transmitted to joints.
These are the targets of neuromuscular training / prevention programs which, at least based on two recent papers cited, has been shown to rates of ACL injuries.
A 2-yr Biomechanically Informed ACL Injury Prevention... : Translational Journal of the American College of Sports Medicine
ally informed ACL injury prevention training program in reducing injury risk and injury incidence and investigated its effect on athletic performance. Participants Twenty-six elite female field hockey players participated in this study. Methods Athletes participated in a 2-yr injury prevention...
Meta-analysis of meta-analyses of anterior cruciate ligament injury reduction training programs - PubMed
Several meta-analyses have been published on the effectiveness of anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) injury prevention training programs to reduce ACL injury risk, with various degrees of risk reduction reported. The purpose of this research was to perform a systematic review and meta-analysis of...
I'm especially intrigued by the 1st paper, which tested a program for elite female field hockey players over 2 years with ZERO ACL injuries after implementation. According to the 1st author in her twitter feed, the exercises are simple, and the program was designed for coach autonomy and feasibility to be placed in any sport setting.
To me this is an epidemic. And I don't think this should be left to individuals to figure this out and do on their own time.
I feel a dedicated prevention program should be MANDATORY in all clubs, and even HS programs. Our DDs DA program already has one day set aside for fitness/strength training, but nothing that looks like an ACL prevention program. Great, kids gets faster and stronger, but what good is that if they end up blowing out an ACL and missing up to a year recovering?
I agree- it borders on negligence. Club soccer is now nonstop year round, tournaments, showcases ad nauseam. The least they could do.