Surf is #1 DA Club in the Country!!!

Agree with the comment about the dilution of talent since the DA. If you are selected as the #1 DA club it does not equate to being the #1 club. Top players now have many other choices and as was shown at the recent DA event in Florida there are many teams in the DA that are not the best of the nation. If you are winning games with more than a 1-2 goal differential then you are not playing a competitive team. So to say you are the best out of teams that are losing 0-6, 0-10 that doesn't speak well to how good you are over other clubs/teams. Parents that are new to the club market get a lot of propaganda and manipulation thrown at them and buyer beware. There are some solid DA coaches but there are also many solid ECNL coaches. If you want to play in a top college you can come from either system. It matters much more about the club coach's connections and reputation and how much they believe in your player.

If you are joining the DA because you want to get a call-up to the YNT then look at the stats first. Out of all the DA players it is a tiny % that actually go to a camp. There is a small pool of players called up year after year.
 
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Congrats Surf. A great club that has been around a long time. I miss Surf Cup now that my kids are aged out.
 
So if all the teams in Surf Cup are all Surf teams do they change it from a tournament to intra-club scrimmages? Do the Surf teams get a discount so it is no longer a money maker for the club or does each Surf rendition have to pay full price?
 
Can someone point me to the source of the rankings? I was disappointed when I read the article and didn’t see a source for them. I’m interested in seeing how other clubs fared including my DDs.
 
GeekKid said:
Can someone point me to the source of the rankings? I was disappointed when I read the article and didn’t see a source for them. I’m interested in seeing how other clubs fared including my DDs.
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You need to ask the folks at the DA. It says, "Per the DA" I'm sure Kicker and Lastman can fill you in on the truth. I'm too blind and have zero experience. I will give you my top five DA clubs Per whatithink.

#1 SoCal Blues (They have both DA & ECNL and used to win all the time on field. Been tough on them from the biz side but they hanging in there)
#1 Surf (LA Surf, OC Surf, SD Surf, San Jose Surf, South Valley Surf, East County Surf, Wyoming Surf and more to come)
#2 Legends (Just took over one of the oldest clubs in Temecula, The Hawks today and someone else tomorrow).
#3 Beach (Numerous YNT picks and growing like crazy)
#4 City SC (Just took over the other Temecula local club with more cities to become City SCs....)

Sorry, only the DA Teams in SoCal seem to be making the most dollars out of this mess. I love Solar soccer and have mad respect for how you guys keep producing some of the best goats in the country. Are you guys really that excited about the DA? I hope that helps you out :)

Correction: I can't find the "Per the DA" anymore. I thought I read that somewhere but maybe my eyes were playing a trick on me again :)
 
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Doc RB is calling his shot and is very proud to be #1. I thought this was all about development and not actually winning? I'm confused again. Boast when it looks good and talk development when you suck. OK, I understand how the game works and all the excuses soccer people make when they lose.
“This is a testament to our player development plan, our commitment to our playing style and teamwork. This is truly a team effort from the players, the families, the coaches and the organization. We are proud to be the ONLY club in the US to take ALL 4 of our teams through to the ELITE 8!” said Director of Coaching Rob Becerra.
the DA girl’s performances speak to our development process of putting players first and our commitment to our coaching education.
Additionally, due to all teams advancing we automatically qualify for DA Playoff this summer. This was an incredible opportunity for our players as they showcased their talent in front of over 500 college coaches this past weekend."
Surf really does have it all. I think we should just hand them the whole DA in SoCal. Give Beach & Legends and coach Chavez what they always wanted, ECNL.
 
Soccerhelper said:
You need to ask the folks at the DA. It says, "Per the DA" I'm sure Kicker and Lastman can fill you in on the truth. I'm too blind and have zero experience. I will give you my top five DA clubs Per whatithink.

#1 SoCal Blues (They have both DA & ECNL and used to win all the time on field. Been tough on them from the biz side but they hanging in there)
#1 Surf (LA Surf, OC Surf, SD Surf, San Jose Surf, South Valley Surf, East County Surf, Wyoming Surf and more to come)
#2 Legends (Just took over one of the oldest clubs in Temecula, The Hawks today and someone else tomorrow).
#3 Beach (Numerous YNT picks and growing like crazy)
#4 City SC (Just took over the other Temecula local club with more cities to become City SCs....)

Sorry, only the DA Teams in SoCal seem to be making the most dollars out of this mess. I love Solar soccer and have mad respect for how you guys keep producing some of the best goats in the country. Are you guys really that excited about the DA? I hope that helps you out :)
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We still have the ECNL side but with the restrictions enforced by ECNL will eventually force Solar and the Blues to make a decision. To be honest I don't see Solar retaining ECNL after this year or the next. And yes we are excited about DA. Our DOC was very proud to have both a Girls (U16) and Boys (U16/17) DA champions from last season.
 
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We still have the ECNL side but with the restrictions enforced by ECNL will eventually force Solar and the Blues to make a decision. To be honest I don't see Solar retaining ECNL after this year or the next. And yes we are excited about DA. Our DOC was very proud to have both a Girls (U16) and Boys (U16/17) DA champions from last season.
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It's all DA in SoCal. You guys play great soccer as does the Blues. I don't think the DA is being run by people who care about all the girls. Not good people but you all will find out someday later. Good luck to your player and wish Texas all the best.
 
GeekKid said:
Can someone point me to the source of the rankings? I was disappointed when I read the article and didn’t see a source for them. I’m interested in seeing how other clubs fared including my DDs.
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There aren't any rankings. It's just an article and a boast about how Surf was the only club in the DA to qualify a team in each age group for Cup Finals.

Just to add to the conversation, my two cents for the best club in the country right now would be:
1. Surf
2. PDA
3. Solar
4. Tophat
5. FC Dallas
6. Blues
 
Well I couldn’t let this rest so I ran my own numbers. I hate statements that are based on conjecture, I need data and facts. So with some spare time I went through the entire Girls DA, U14 through U18/19, regular season and DA Cup results to get a comprehensive view of how each age group is ranking as well as overall club rankings. The U14 age group is not competing in the DA Cup so just the regular season results were used. Now a couple of caveats. Some clubs for whatever reason can’t field teams in all age brackets (South Shore Select, Cleveland Force, Seacoast United, Long Island SC and Cedar Stars Academy – Bergen). For these teams I just assigned the next lowest ranking in the age bracket. So for instance Cedar Stars Academy – Bergen was the only team that didn’t field a U16 team so I ranked them 65. In the end, teams that couldn’t field teams in an age bracket aren’t really contending for Top 25 club rankings anyway. Also, this is only looking at the Girls DA. I didn't factor in ECNL but if someone wants to pick up that challenge, have at it. So with that it appears that San Diego Surf does have bragging rights as the top ranked club in the country. Here’s the complete list. Happy New Years everyone.
 

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Well I couldn’t let this rest so I ran my own numbers. I hate statements that are based on conjecture, I need data and facts. So with some spare time I went through the entire Girls DA, U14 through U18/19, regular season and DA Cup results to get a comprehensive view of how each age group is ranking as well as overall club rankings. The U14 age group is not competing in the DA Cup so just the regular season results were used. Now a couple of caveats. Some clubs for whatever reason can’t field teams in all age brackets (South Shore Select, Cleveland Force, Seacoast United, Long Island SC and Cedar Stars Academy – Bergen). For these teams I just assigned the next lowest ranking in the age bracket. So for instance Cedar Stars Academy – Bergen was the only team that didn’t field a U16 team so I ranked them 65. In the end, teams that couldn’t field teams in an age bracket aren’t really contending for Top 25 club rankings anyway. Also, this is only looking at the Girls DA. I didn't factor in ECNL but if someone wants to pick up that challenge, have at it. So with that it appears that San Diego Surf does have bragging rights as the top ranked club in the country. Here’s the complete list. Happy New Years everyone.
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Or you could have ignored the missing teams and averaged over those that participated, which would have move those clubs up a couple of notches, but still close to the bottom.

...top ranked club... should be ...top ranked girls club...
 
espola said:
Or you could have ignored the missing teams and averaged over those that participated, which would have move those clubs up a couple of notches, but still close to the bottom.

...top ranked club... should be ...top ranked girls club...
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Which begs the question about adding the Boys DA and seeing what that does to the overall club rankings. A lot more boys clubs than girls so I would expect the issue of not having a complete set of teams for clubs to come into play
 
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