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I dont pretend to speak for Dr. Mann or his hockey stick.
(dont want to get sued. lol)

Dr. Mann's position has been backed up by almost all the people who have proper credentials to judge it.

I always enjoy pointing out your errors and gullibility. It's like science camp, but year-round. Don't quit me.
 
It seems to me that you have no idea what that means.
Can you explain to me why Dr. Mann, having 8 years to show his own data that would have ( if correct) won his case, failed to do so?
Can you do that, because Dr. Mann just cost Penn State a shitload of money.

(because he could, (or would) not.)
 
Can you explain to me why Dr. Mann, having 8 years to show his own data that would have ( if correct) won his case, failed to do so?
Can you do that, because Dr. Mann just cost Penn State a shitload of money.

(because he could, (or would) not.)

Ball's lawyer attempted to hide his case in a paper blizzard and succeeded. Not only that, Ball "won" because gullible suckers believe it when they are told it has some bearing on the scientific findings behind the "hockey-stick" graph. Asking for the r-squared data at this point is like me asking you to show where you learned the alphabet and to prove that all your words are spelled correctly.

As for Penn State, a reasonable decision could have been based on comparing the cost to comply against the cost not to comply. If Barr wants to recoup his legal costs, he will have to file a motion with the judge or launch a separate lawsuit, which will put him in the position of being the party who has to show all his documents.
 
Ball's lawyer attempted to hide his case in a paper blizzard and succeeded. Not only that, Ball "won" because gullible suckers believe it when they are told it has some bearing on the scientific findings behind the "hockey-stick" graph. Asking for the r-squared data at this point is like me asking you to show where you learned the alphabet and to prove that all your words are spelled correctly.

As for Penn State, a reasonable decision could have been based on comparing the cost to comply against the cost not to comply. If Barr wants to recoup his legal costs, he will have to file a motion with the judge or launch a separate lawsuit, which will put him in the position of being the party who has to show all his documents.
This is not an answer.
I see excuses and diversions.

Are you calling the judge an idiot too?
 
Is this an Izzy act? You know where you say something false and then refer back to it as if it were golden truth?
That was a Cheney trick, plant a reference in a newspaper article then refer back to it as a source, as if no one will notice (nutters don't of course). nutterism has been around awhile.
 
You dont have the balls to come right out and say it, but it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.
You basically called me an idiot for agreeing with him.

Its ok.

I understand how bad it must hurt.

The judge made no statement one way or the other on the validity of Dr. Mann's "hockey-stick" paper. He threw out a libel/slander case because for lawyerly reasons, not scientific.
 
The judge made no statement one way or the other on the validity of Dr. Mann's "hockey-stick" paper. He threw out a libel/slander case because for lawyerly reasons, not scientific.
He allowed 8 years for Dr Mann to provide his work.
8 years.
8 YEARS

Why hide it and lose the case?
 
The original paper by Mann et al. was published in 1998.

21 years ago, and no serious flaws have been found in the data or the analysis.

21 YEARS
It should have been easy then.
Why not hand it over?

I dont enjoy this, btw.
Its a public service i force myself to provide.
 
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