Surfref
PREMIER
It was enforced at the Surf Cup fields that I refereed on. The manager should have complained to the referee at halftime. It would have been fixed by most refs.
sideline seating standards?
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It was enforced at the Surf Cup fields that I refereed on. The manager should have complained to the referee at halftime. It would have been fixed by most refs.
When I was a team manager the referees were always responsive and helpful if I brought the matter to their attention. And I only brought it to their attention if the offending parties parents were out of line whack jobs.
It happened right after half time since the teams switched directions the loudmouth and his wife had to move to be close to their defender dd. Unfortunately it was not enforced at Oceanside for the olders. We asked the teenage field Marshall to call someone higher up and they refused to even come over. We also tried to get the CR attention but could only get the AR who ignored us. We all just moved behind the goal to watch the rest of the game.
RedCard
GOLD
I agree about the enforcement at Surf Cup during the older weekend. At our game on Monday, we had a very “highly motivated” parent from an out of state team on our side just yelling and screaming. Our team manager went to the AR on our side and when the ball went out of play, he waved the young CR over. The CR did actually go over to that parent and asked she to return to her side of the half which she did. She did seem confused and was saying “I didn’t know we had to stay on one side.” which is hard to believe since the team was a former DA now going “all in” to ECNL team.
ultimate20
SILVER
Which is way too common, sadly.
It’s usually an overweight lady or a dude with giant muscles.
Or a lawyer who dares you to touch him.
If it’s the the overweight lady she is usually with a smaller dude who will “defend her honor” if anyone talks to her.
Does the big girl or the meathead scare you more?
rainbow_unicorn
PREMIER
I let opposition parents sit on our side if they want to. I just make sure I'm screaming at the top of my lungs during the game. They usually move by halftime.
If they don't then try to identify which kid is theirs and yell for your players to pick on that kid because he/she is "slow" or "doesn't have it"
It helps if you can borrow a baby that will cry the whole time.
Extras has a technical zone requirement and the parents sit opposite sides....the bigger issue is parents sitting on the AR line of run: it's usually halfway into the season before things get sorted out and I on more than one occasion as an AR had to call the CR to handle the issue after politely asking the coach to clear the line of run. I learned the hard way my first time ARing an extras game when I ran into a parent standing on the run line (a guy who was twice my weight screaming at his DD). I agree Extras parents tend to be a bit on the crazier end because it's all about winning in that League, but at the same time I rarely have had fights to deal with or other extreme issues since the team would get penalized in the standings and coaches from either continuing on Extras or moving up to United. I started to avoid volunteering for Extras games as a result, but would often get pressure since fewer of the volunteers are qualified.
United parents (at first) can be just as crazy because: 1) it's what they know, and 2) they are clueless at first as to the way club works, but given AYSO has strict requirements on seating and behavior I'm surprised there would be seating issues with them.
This is the TA from a team in NorCal a few years ago playing at West Coast. The most annoying person I've EVER heard on the pitch. Yelling and screaming the entire game at all the players. It was non-stop. She actually yelled at the girls more than the coach.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
Yeah, but you know what? At least he’s back on his side... and you get to sit there with a smirk on your face.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
On the flip side, there’s also those annoying parents that know they can’t keep their mouth shut and still sit at the center-line spouting their ignorant BS...
It’s like, really!?!
It’s like, really!?!
I sit right at midfield line and pick apart the other team's tactics. It's psychological warfare against the opposing sideline.
To me the solution to sideline confrontations in youth games (parent v parent and parent v ref) is easy. Team and its parents on one sideline and opposing team and parents on other sideline with parents to the left of midfield. The benefits are:
1) No direct contact between AR and parents
2) Reduces contact between opposing parents and sideline sitting disputes
3) Coach has more direct control over parents behavior (which is coach's, not ref's, responsibility, although some refs prefer to engage directly with parents). This, of course, assumes coach isn't also crazy.
4) Reduces coaching by parents as coach is more likely to hear parents on same sideline (I've noticed significantly more parent coaching when parents are on opposite sideline)
Yes, parents should just behave themselves. But the reality is that its not happening. We had a friendly scrimmage (ECNL and DA B07) the other day without a ref and very little coach involvement. The players policed themselves and played freely, it was a refreshing and fun to watch kids play in this environment. Of course, one jackass parent had to ref and coach from the stands the entire time.
1) No direct contact between AR and parents
2) Reduces contact between opposing parents and sideline sitting disputes
3) Coach has more direct control over parents behavior (which is coach's, not ref's, responsibility, although some refs prefer to engage directly with parents). This, of course, assumes coach isn't also crazy.
4) Reduces coaching by parents as coach is more likely to hear parents on same sideline (I've noticed significantly more parent coaching when parents are on opposite sideline)
Yes, parents should just behave themselves. But the reality is that its not happening. We had a friendly scrimmage (ECNL and DA B07) the other day without a ref and very little coach involvement. The players policed themselves and played freely, it was a refreshing and fun to watch kids play in this environment. Of course, one jackass parent had to ref and coach from the stands the entire time.
Messi>CR7
GOLD
A couple of years ago after a sideline incident, my kid's old coach told the parents any more issue from any parent will directly result in reduction of playing time for his or her kid. Worked like a charm.
CopaMundial
SILVER ELITE
Had that same parent/coach talk when my DD was U12 at West Coast and it also worked like a charm. Really, I'm not sure all the fuss about parents sitting someplace special as the players switch at half anyway. On our last team, our own team was more annoying than the opponents, typically. I like to sit in peace and watch the game, cheering for everyone when they deserve it, not just my kid. If some crazy parent is ranting about, so be it. I have been known to even put on headphones or sit on the opposing side myself, to get some quiet. Seems like ranting parents irritate other ranting parents more than anyone else. Overall, I'm just glad that players are on one side and parents are on the other. It was even a bigger nightmare when players and parents shared sides back in the day. I think DA has specific rules now though. But like we all know, rules are only as good as those that follow them and those that enforce them. Coaches and DOCs, ultimately have the power to calm parents and guide them appropriately. It's called leadership.