USWNT

Well Alex Morgan won top female athlete at the ESPY's last night and the team won top team. Rapinoe on the other hand won the Golden Boot and Best Player award and the President was just shockingly talking nasty about her so it's no surprise that people are talking about Rapinoe. Me thinks that it's likely you don't agree with her politics which is why you are so bothered, but if anyone has a problem with her message which is that there is still social injustice in this country and the women deserve more compensation well that's on them. And if you or anyone else doesn't think that this amazing group of women will help lead to more amazing players down the road for the US then I don't know what to tell you.

Are you 12? SMH
 
Well Alex Morgan won top female athlete at the ESPY's last night and the team won top team. Rapinoe on the other hand won the Golden Boot and Best Player award and the President was just shockingly talking nasty about her so it's no surprise that people are talking about Rapinoe. Me thinks that it's likely you don't agree with her politics which is why you are so bothered, but if anyone has a problem with her message which is that there is still social injustice in this country and the women deserve more compensation well that's on them. And if you or anyone else doesn't think that this amazing group of women will help lead to more amazing players down the road for the US then I don't know what to tell you.
Do you think Rapinoe was the best player on the team and deserved best player? The story of the world cup for me was stars in the midfield (especially Levelle), how Dunn grew into her position and so many other great players and plays. unfortunately those stories are all ready over because they dont involve Rapinoe
 
Minus JoJo and Joe.

Wonder how much Joe would have been shitting his pants mad during the 60’s and 70’s when Black Athletes were fighting for equality?
I am part African, dummy.
I grew up with the Owens family, idiot.
My daughters bestie of 10 years is black and I hang with the family, douche.
MAP is my brother from another mother and is in love with my wife, dickhead.
 
Do you think Rapinoe was the best player on the team and deserved best player? The story of the world cup for me was stars in the midfield (especially Levelle), how Dunn grew into her position and so many other great players and plays. unfortunately those stories are all ready over because they dont involve Rapinoe

I wonder what the media focus on tennis looked like in 1973 when Billie Jean King was spearheading the equal pay fight in tennis. Yet I don’t think anyone would say she hurt women’s tennis.

I wish the media was providing more substantive analysis too but I think we have to blame our current culture and not Rapinoe for why it isn’t.

Time to watch lots of NWSL.
 
Unfortunately, you aren't wrong and what you see going on right now doesn't help. Rapinoe is allowing herself to be used to advance an agenda (mostly aligned with her own) at the expense of her team. I don't care what anybody's opinion is on politics, it is very sad that we aren't seeing real interviews and media attention on the TEAM, rather than on one player. Last I checked, there were 11 a side and plenty of supporters on the bench who all deserve/earned some time in the spotlight.

Oh yeah, like you would check in for an hour long interview with Morgan Brian. Colin cowherd talks about this all the time, people always claim to want to see something (usually in its pure form), but the ratings ALWAYS show otherwise. Interesting, controversial, sexy, good looking will always get the eyeballs. I’m not saying it’s fair, but to think that we all would tune in for specials on ALL the players is disingenuous.
 
I am part African, dummy.
I grew up with the Owens family, idiot.
My daughters bestie of 10 years is black and I hang with the family, douche.
MAP is my brother from another mother and is in love with my wife, dickhead.

I’m sorry but even if that’s true, it doesn’t mean sh**%t! You have a track record my friend. You get all bent out of shape for African-American players taking a knee during the national anthem, so I think it is fair to say that you would throw a tantrum when two African-American track stars not only did not put their hands over their heart during the national anthem, but put two fists with black gloves in the air during the medal ceremony when the whole world was watching. And I’m not even getting into the whole Black Lives Matter issue.
 
I’m sorry but even if that’s true, it doesn’t mean sh**%t! You have a track record my friend. You get all bent out of shape for African-American players taking a knee during the national anthem, so I think it is fair to say that you would throw a tantrum when two African-American track stars not only did not put their hands over their heart during the national anthem, but put two fists with black gloves in the air during the medal ceremony when the whole world was watching. And I’m not even getting into the whole Black Lives Matter issue.

A number of members is this topic want to bring overt political messages into it. Ultimately, as we see before our very eyes with insults being thrown here or there, it devolves. Which is my ultimate point and why I believe our National Teams (USWNT, the US Hockey Team, and the US Curling team) should stay APolitical.

Thank you for bringing up the Smith/Carlos raised fist episode because that is an excellent example of athletes politicizing a sporting event/team that was supposed to be apolitical. We now have the Olympic being used for political purposes, with this country boycotting and that country boycotting or pulling out because some other country did something so now they are butt hurt.

My hope is that we use international sports, whether the Olympics or FIFA or other competitions to bring athletes of all religions, ethnicity, creeds, sexes, orientations, etc., together in pure competition. Prejudices and stereotypes are subversively challenged through competitive excellence and not through protests or over acts of propaganda. Once we become apolitical or anti-religious then we loose entire subgroups who now refuse to be exposed to the overt message and will never receive the subversive message.

Sadly, the opportunity we had during the 1936 Olympics for Jessie Owens to embarrass Hitler and show the world ideas of white supremacy were invalid would never exist today, because we just can't stop ourselves from using sports in a political way.
 
It sucks that we have to bring politics into this. We should just agree to disagree and move on. The problem is that if we don't agree with Rapinoe and her agenda, then we are bigots, racist and every other thing wrong with this nation. Reality check , just because you play good soccer, doesn't mean you should speak for this amazing team that accomplished a record setting history. Somehow Rapinoe will speak for the team( I think her team captain status is going to her head) Yet we look at the end results, yes the USWNT won, but it wasn't pretty. It was fairly obvious to me that we had the top overall athletes with an unparalleled bench who would be starters on all the other teams. I felt Spain deserved to beat the U.S., which basically means that the rest of the world is catching up. Japan did it before, the European teams showed that they are only a couple to few years away. So, while the focus should be on soccer. We are talking about politics.

As for pay, it should be comparable by percentage of overall or proportional, if that makes sense. It shouldn't be equal because it is not equal. Success doesn't mean equal pay, my DD plays soccer at an Elite level, and I would love her to aspire to Messi/Ronaldo/Neymar type $. Men's soccer has been popular world wide for how long? It's grown over all that time to get to where we are now. Somehow just because the USWNT has been dominant for the past two decades, somehow they deserve to get paid equal, in a country where soccer isn't even in the top 6 sports. Example, lets not stop at soccer, lets do the same for all sports. Women's basketball, football, baseball, hockey. If it exists, just because they are women, we need to pay them the same, because that's the only way to be equal. That's not very smart, the demand for each sport is dependent on how the sport is supported.. Tv, advertising, sponsors, fans... All things that take time to generate a profit in order to sustain the sport. Just because you are female does not mean you earned or deserve equal pay. I would love it if it were a real. I need my DD to go pro, before they realize the error. Reality is that by forcing equal pay will only hurt the sport because sustaining a profitable sport has become secondary to player salaries. Who wants to own a team that makes more money than the owner, who wants to advertise and sponsor a team that can't afford a venue to house the sport, if the players are more concerned about making money. With more time to actually create the demand as has been the case for the top leagues that have laid the foundation to create a want and more over a need to watch. Then eventually you see what can be. To demand such equality with...out the proven record to sustain the growth..well I can see another failed league.
 
I’m sorry but even if that’s true, it doesn’t mean sh**%t! You have a track record my friend. You get all bent out of shape for African-American players taking a knee during the national anthem, so I think it is fair to say that you would throw a tantrum when two African-American track stars not only did not put their hands over their heart during the national anthem, but put two fists with black gloves in the air during the medal ceremony when the whole world was watching. And I’m not even getting into the whole Black Lives Matter issue.
African American has nothing to do with it.
How did we even get into the race issue?
Someone must have been losing the argument and had to go to To familiar territory.
Sad.
 
I am part African, dummy.
I grew up with the Owens family, idiot.
My daughters bestie of 10 years is black and I hang with the family, douche.
MAP is my brother from another mother and is in love with my wife, dickhead.
Now that the name calling has begun I will be the first to apologize when I am in the wrong.

In hind site, my post should have have a little more clarity in that history tends to paint a better picture of those who fight for what they feel are social injustices versus those who attack them mid plight.

I did not in anyway mean to imply you were racist.
 
Now that the name calling has begun I will be the first to apologize when I am in the wrong.

In hind site, my post should have have a little more clarity in that history tends to paint a better picture of those who fight for what they feel are social injustices versus those who attack them mid plight.

I did not in anyway mean to imply you were racist.
Thank you and we are all good.
 
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