2007 DA

[RedDevilDad]

Do you think this might make non-religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to pray or stand out as not praying.

Do you think not doing this might make religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to not pray or stand out as praying.

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...

Can we just talk about soccer please

lol

 

[espola]

Do you think not doing this might make religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to not pray or stand out as praying.

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...


lol

Nonsense.

 

[focomoso]

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...

Your kid is free to "be me". The issue is when he (or his teammates) assume that others want to be the same. Someone saying a personal prayer is one thing, but as soon as the kids huddle up to pray, the assumption is that prayer is the norm. A non religious kid has to either stand out for not praying or pretend to pray. That's... unhealthy.

It sounds as if the kids are sensitive to there being different ways to pray: "Lots of different backgrounds coming together praying in their own way..." which is great. It means they get that there might be kids in the group who have different beliefs than they do. I don't think anyone would feel comfortable if they all said the Lord's Prayer, for example, or a specific prayer from a specific sect or other religion entirely. Why? Because that would be forcing one specific religious belief on kids who might not hold that belief. But the fact that they have group prayer at all is doing the same for non religious kids.

Just something to think about as you help your kid navigate the world.

 

[watfly]

Do you think this might make non-religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to pray or stand out as not praying.

Do you think not doing this might make religious kids feel uncomfortable? They either have to pretend to not pray or stand out as praying.

Just saying... the idea of "let's all make each comfortable means I can't be me" is a logical fallacy. What if we teach religious kids to treat non-religious kids with respect and what if we teach non-religious kids to treat religious kids with respect? Then... no one is uncomfortable. Rather than one side get their way at the expense of the free expression of another side...

This is a hot potato subject and a tangent from soccer but against my better judgement I will indulge. First off, I respect everyone's opinion on this matter.

I'm not religious in the slightest, but I don't have much of a problem with the "praying" as described by Tad. If it was being directed by the coach I would probably have a huge problem with it. However, if its spontaneous with the kids, it seems like its bonding moment for the kids and I like the positive message of being concerned for the health of both teams. On the other hand, if there is a higher power, I seriously doubt they care who wins a youth soccer game. To me, regardless of the name its done in, "prayer" doesn't have to be inherently religious but can just be personal expression of a positive message.

Oftentimes, we are quick to complain (including myself) about something with youth soccer, particularly as it comes to the concept of "fairness". Instead of complaining I think we should consider making the issue a teachable moment for our kids. If its my kid I would ask him if he was uncomfortable (likely not) and just let him know that belief in a supreme being is complicated and that he has many years to figure that out. Your teammates are just trying to send a positive message and by praying with them your not committing to a belief in God. If I was religious, I would probably tell my kid to be considerate of others and maybe find another way to express a positive message without bringing in the name of a deity.

Kids get excluded in all sorts of ways. Our team last year had kids (fueled by their parents) tell other kids that they suck and didn't belong on the team. Fortunately, my son wasn't involved on either side. Praying seems quite pleasant compared to some of the alternatives.

 

[cabcon]

question on the legends. the 05 coach did a solid job improving that 05 team over time, but didn't see the same kind of improvement/performance from the other Legends teams. any thoughts on why?

The 05 coaching style is different from the 07's. Lots of discrepancies between what the coaches want to do and what the DA is asking for. The 07 team relied heavily on pounding the ball forward and hardly played a possession game, building from the back. It was obvious that there was a huge separation from the "A" team and the "B" team and thus evident when they played. The "A" team would get coached (mostly during big games ie, Galaxy, TFA, LAFC) then for the "B" team, well that's when the coach would sit out and just watch. Noticeably different approaches to both teams. If a kid did well enough and got to play with the "A" team from the "B" team, there was absolutely no chemistry and the struggles were evident. That I believe has to do with the coaching during the week, constant separation and it showed. There was only a few times that the team was truly divided into two equal groups. Not much progress there.

 

[RedDevilDad]

So, I've been setting up a bunch of 07 DA friendlies over the summer. LA teams vs SD teams. Starting July 27th. I'm curious to see how it pans out. Legends, Pats, Albion, Rebels, Arsenal, OC Surf and LA Premier have all either committed or in progress of working on dates.

 

[Kante]

here's end of season u12 national ranking. it's based on Points per Game, Goal Differential per Game, Goals Scored per Game and Goals Allowed per Game, and only includes USSDA matches (i.e. no tournament results). Also, the ranking does not account for the relative strength of the different geos i.e. there could be a highly ranked team that played in a relatively weak geo (e.g., CO Rapids).

As an fyi, there are 152 teams listed below but there are 153 u12 clubs listed on the USSDA website. Consolidated the two crossfire premier squad (I and II) results into one team below for ranking purposes while the USSDA site, for some reason, calls them out as separate team.

SoCal teams are highlighted in yellow. And btw, if you get a minute, would appreciate your feedback to this survey here about posts for next season: http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/...r-the-new-season-please-pick-the-top-3.17573/

 

[RedDevilDad]

here's end of season u12 national ranking.

At least, Sporting KC is missing... any others?

 

[Kante]

At least, Sporting KC is missing... any others?

Thanks for the heads-up. Double-checked and SKC didn't have a u12 competing in the u12 DA season. No others missing.

 

[Toe poke]

Question for the informed....... This 07 DA group is the age of that Jr World Cup tournament??? Is that tournament still happening and I think the winning team is somehow compensated with trip to Japan, correct?
Anyone have information on this one?

 

[RedDevilDad]

Question for the informed....... This 07 DA group is the age of that Jr World Cup tournament??? Is that tournament still happening and I think the winning team is somehow compensated with trip to Japan, correct?
Anyone have information on this one?

I was told that there would be u12 world challenge bracket for the 07s at the West Coast classic in Irvine. I heard the trip experience was very poor and we opted to pass on the event. I was also concerned at how long it took them to settle on it. First, the event was on. Then it was off and then it was a bracket within another existing event. Eh.

Here’s what I was told:

This year we are running the U12 World Challenge in partnership with OC Surf, so it will be a part of the OC Surf Summer Tournament (West Coast Classic).

2019 West Coast Classic (Hosted by OC Surf) -- August 10-11, 2019
http://ocsurfsoccer.com/west-coast-classic/
Tournament Contact Persons: Kathleen Deane Kathleen@westcoastfc.net and ncucuk@ocsurfsoccer.com

You will just need to register for the tournament and let them know you want to participate in the U12 World Challenge Group.
Feel free to contact Kathleen and Nick prior to registering if you have any questions.

Thanks,
Brian
<info@soltilo.us

 

[watfly]

When do schedules come out for fall? I can't recall from last year.

 

[RedDevilDad]

2019-20 Scheduling Webinar

On Thursday, July 25th at 12:00pmET/ 11:00amCT/ 10:00amMT/ 9:00amPT we will be hosting a scheduling webinar to go over all of the information you will need pertaining to scheduling. At the conclusion of the webinar, we will open the collaborative scheduler which will allow your club to enter times and locations for your home games as well as make date modifications to your schedule with approval from your opponent and the Academy. The re-schedule period will be Thursday, July 25 – Wednesday, August 14. After this reschedule period, fixtures should not be rescheduled for any reasons except inclement weather. Until this webinar concludes, schedule requests should not be submitted to the Academy and the collaborative scheduler will be turned off.

All clubs are required to attend this webinar. You can join the scheduling webinar by clicking here. Though you shouldn’t need it, the event password is “DA2019.”

Girls Schedule Update

The 2019-20 Girls regular season schedule has been posted to our website and is now available on the Schedule/Results page. Your schedule will become available on your team pages when those are turned over from the 2018-19 season to the 2019-20 season later this month. Your regular season schedules do not have any games scheduled on the weekends of September 28-29 and October 12-13. These weekends are reserved for Cup games that will be added in the coming weeks.

Boys Schedule Update

We are in the process of finalizing the 2019-20 Boys regular season and Cup schedules. We anticipate all schedules being released before the end of July. The U-15, U-16/17, and U-18/19 schedules will likely be posted a couple of days before the U-13 and U-14 schedules. As discussed in June at the Academy meeting, we are utilizing a new scheduling format for U-18/19 this season, which is taking a bit more time to finalize. We recognize the urgency in getting these schedules released and appreciate your understanding. Please note that after receiving your feedback, we will not be scheduling any Academy games the weekend of August 24th. Games will begin as early as August 31st.
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[RedDevilDad]

How's everyone feeling going into the 19-20 season?
I've seen a few of the teams play.
LAG: Did they reload after several players left?
LAUFA: I think they snagged some transfers
FCGS: Definitely improved. Picked up some good Legends and a few others.
Legends: looks like they took some LAG kids. But rumors of discontent amongst parents... granted they had an epic Scotland trip in there.
Arsenal FC: Added one or two but doesn't look strong. Slaughtered by FCGS.
Murrieta Surf: Haven't heard of any upgrades or new additions.
OC Surf: Looked solid, improved
LAFC: Sounds like they kept most of their top players.

That's all I've seen or heard this summer.

 

[watfly]

In regards to San Diego, this is what I'm hearing through the 07 rumor grapevine. Most of this is 2nd and 3rd hand accounts so please take it with a huge grain of salt as I don't know the validity of some of this info. (please correct me if any of this info is wrong)

LAGSD: Heard that they don't have a full roster yet. May be the case since they advertised tryouts again a number of weeks ago. Heard they may be actively recruiting players from other teams and asking back players they originally "cut".
Surf: Heard they lost a few, know they added at least one strong player from Albion. Heard they may be actively recruiting from other SD clubs, which I believe is SOP for Surf. Should still be an excellent team but does loss to Legends at WCC portend anything?
SDSC: Added 3 players from Rebels and kept core of team. From an individual player standpoint they should have more depth. Should be improved, but team drama could be an issue.
Albion: Not aware of their changes other than player that went to Surf. Already had a lot of depth, should be comparable to last year. New coach that players/parents seem to feel is an improvement.
Nomads: Turned over bulk of the roster primarily with kids from all the above clubs. Much improved, but work in progress.
Chula Vista: No clue. Affiliation with DV7 will have some impact. Hopefully they will be improved for the benefit of the league.
AZ Clubs: ?

I suspect their are still some significant changes to come for some teams. I don't think were going to get a true sense for the quality of the teams until April, at which point there will only be a month left in the season and then the process starts all over again. If I had to put money on it I would say Strikers will be the top team in the SD league. I've always been impressed by their coaching and play. Lets hope that all the teams show improvement, that the games are competitive and we see some attractive soccer.

 

[RedDevilDad]

In regards to San Diego.

I think LAGSD is set. Had a friend sign there last week and he said had full team. I know LAGSD 07s have games and are playing Albion (I believe) this weekend and working on a scrimmage against Legends the following.
SDSC- saw them play twice in July. Much improved and yeah, had new players. Very good team.
Saw Real AZ at Surf Cup. Praying that they're not as bad as it seemed.
Murrieta Surf- Same ole, same ole. Stoke City-esque. Curious how the large field affects their style of play.
Arsenal- added a few players and the DOC took over team. Changing coaches and thus formations got them commandingly to the Surf Cup Final to lose in PKs. granted in Middle bracket of 3. I heard they lost big to a FCGS recruit team but play Legends this weekend. May give a frame of reference against Surf on how both play against Legends.

Re: LA
FCGS added some LAG and Legends talent.
TFA got a few from LAG and LAUFA
LAUFA for some from LA Premier.
Sounds like LA is a lot more re-shuffling than SD.

 

[futbol10]

I think LAGSD is set. Had a friend sign there last week and he said had full team. I know LAGSD 07s have games and are playing Albion (I believe) this weekend and working on a scrimmage against Legends the following.
SDSC- saw them play twice in July. Much improved and yeah, had new players. Very good team.
Saw Real AZ at Surf Cup. Praying that they're not as bad as it seemed.
Murrieta Surf- Same ole, same ole. Stoke City-esque. Curious how the large field affects their style of play.
Arsenal- added a few players and the DOC took over team. Changing coaches and thus formations got them commandingly to the Surf Cup Final to lose in PKs. granted in Middle bracket of 3. I heard they lost big to a FCGS recruit team but play Legends this weekend. May give a frame of reference against Surf on how both play against Legends.

Re: LA
FCGS added some LAG and Legends talent.
TFA got a few from LAG and LAUFA
LAUFA for some from LA Premier.
Sounds like LA is a lot more re-shuffling than SD.

RSL-AZ DA was not at Surf Cup, that was the ECNL team. There were no FT DA players at Surf. DA hasn't played since Man City (mixed results there, beat Sporting KC and San Jose Earthquakes, tied Real So Cal and Strikers, lost to LAFC and NYCFC). They have 3 friendlies this weekend against LAUFA, LAFC, and SDSC.
Del Sol DA hasn't played since Cerritos, which they won that tournament beating LAUFA DA in the final (2-1), 5 wins 0 losses there (16 GF, 4 GA).
Both teams should be competitive in the SD division.

 

[whatithink]

Saw Real AZ at Surf Cup. Praying that they're not as bad as it seemed.

AZ teams at Surf may have started practice after the summer break 2-3 weeks prior. That's in 100+ heat, and maybe got a scrimmage or 2 in against other teams playing Surf also. In short, they are in pre-season mode at best. The RSL-AZ 07 team in the "best of the best" bracket are labeled their ECNL team, so not the DA one. ECNL is the second team.

Both the RSL & DelSol AZ teams are basically new this year built from ID dates and pulling kids from multiple clubs, so they will be a work in progress I'd expect with the coaches looking to impose a style standard at odds with what half the kids have played up to now (coming from multiple clubs). They have talent but it'll take until Spring to see how that's gelling.

 

[watfly]

LAGSD: Heard that they don't have a full roster yet. May be the case since they advertised tryouts again a number of weeks ago. Heard they may be actively recruiting players from other teams and asking back players they originally "cut".

I heard that two players just moved from SDSC to LAGSD. I don't think it will be a huge impact for either team.

 

[makeyourself]

I know there have been 07 DA scrimmages throughout SoCal the last few weekends. Anyone have any commentary for any matches they’ve watched or heard about?

 

[watfly]

I know there have been 07 DA scrimmages throughout SoCal the last few weekends. Anyone have any commentary for any matches they’ve watched or heard about?

I heard from the SDSC side that they beat LAUFA and RSL AZ and lost to LAFC 3-0 last weekend. I heard no other details.