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Real Deal said:
Refs and VAR giving lots of gifts today. Minimal contact and big flops=pks apparently. And then how can a keeper with one foot coming inches off a line matter and cause a repeat pk when a player has missed the frame altogether??

Go USA!! At least we can score real goals.

PS- If the rules for keepers on pks are going to be enforced this harshly going forward, then I believe the kickers need to be moved further back! Can you imagine how this will work on the men's side? May as well just award the goal.
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Shooters still miss the goal completely or hit the keeper.
 
espola said:
Shooters still miss the goal completely or hit the keeper.
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Yeh but it's a lot easier if they are gifted a second chance by the VAR.

Honestly if the movement by the keeper on a pk is so minimal that the field ref misses it, how can it be relevant or reviewable on a pk where the shooter misses the frame altogether?
 
Real Deal said:
Yeh but it's a lot easier if they are gifted a second chance by the VAR.

Honestly if the movement by the keeper on a pk is so minimal that the field ref misses it, how can it be relevant or reviewable on a pk where the shooter misses the frame altogether?
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The shooter could argue that the keeper distracted her. The rekick is already in the LOTG, it's just that now VAR will eliminate early rushes by the keeper.
 
Did you see the play I am referring to? (France vs Nigeria) It was hardly an "early rush."

I think VAR is necessary in some instances, but it may already be becoming too powerful in determining outcomes. That doesn't add much to the game . Maybe some of the rules need to be re-thought if they are to be adhered to with no discretion. It comes off as wacky and unfair.
 
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Unlucky sequence of events in France/Nigeria natxh for sure. However, Nigeria did not help themselves after the PK retake. The urgency afterward hardly existed at all. Check out the right back during the cross in the 86th minute (#20). Not a good teamate, and flat out quit on the play. She later dropped to the turf without any contact, and came out out of the gamcde. What a disgrace
 
Small but Slow said:
Unlucky sequence of events in France/Nigeria natxh for sure. However, Nigeria did not help themselves after the PK retake. The urgency afterward hardly existed at all. Check out the right back during the cross in the 86th minute (#20). Not a good teamate, and flat out quit on the play. She later dropped to the turf without any contact, and came out out of the gamcde. What a disgrace
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"...came out out of the gamcde..."?
 
Watched the game and France looked to have the better of the game. The other thing in the France/Nigeria penalty sequence is on both PK’s French players had encroached into the box prior to the ball being struck. There are quite a few images of this floating around online. My understanding is that could have been called as well(could be wrong), especially if we are talking about a keeper being a couple inches off the line. Just seems a bit inconsistent...maybe a ref can weigh in???
 
Woobie06 said:
Watched the game and France looked to have the better of the game. The other thing in the France/Nigeria penalty sequence is on both PK’s French players had encroached into the box prior to the ball being struck. There are quite a few images of this floating around online. My understanding is that could have been called as well(could be wrong), especially if we are talking about a keeper being a couple inches off the line. Just seems a bit inconsistent...maybe a ref can weigh in???
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The way's it has been explained to me is that under the VAR protocol appendix to the Laws of the Game, an offense by the striker or the goalkeeper is reviewable in VAR, but an encroachment offense is not unless the player becomes directly involved such as in a rebound.
 
Discussion below. My guess is between this and the handballs/people running with hands behind their back the penalty rules (not the VAR rules) get revised next go around:

 
soccerobserver said:
To my eyes it looked like the correct call. I haven't seen a replay. I thought the defender slammed into the attacker from the side angle.
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Different angle - The defender was slower, but she was closer to the ball. Attacker tried to run through and then bounced off her back.

I even yelled at my wife.
 
The referee explaining to the Italian goalkeeper the new rules before the kick and warning the other players not to run in early was hilarious. It's gonna end with them adjusting the PK rules...the outcry at having games decided by PKs because a pass could strike a hand in the box which isn't shot on goal (in a low scoring sport) is just going to be too much and they don't want to look stupid by admitting they made a mistake with the handball rules.
 
soccerobserver said:
To my eyes it looked like the correct call. I haven't seen a replay. I thought the defender slammed into the attacker from the side angle.
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I missed the action that resulted in the Penalty....and can't find a clip of it online. Sounds like it was a shoulder to shoulder contact and the attacking player went down?
 
gkrent said:
I missed the action that resulted in the Penalty....and can't find a clip of it online. Sounds like it was a shoulder to shoulder contact and the attacking player went down?
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GKR, to me it looked like the defender intercepted the attacker and took her out w/out playing the ball...isn't that a PK??

Also, for what it's worth Italy had an early goal called back...I thought the teams were evenly matched...

Here is the replay from YouTube...
 
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