You got nothing better to do than annoy the crap out of people? You have been asked nicely to take it to the off topic forum. You can't control yourself though. You are a child.
College Entrance Scam includes former Yale Women's Soccer Coach
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You got nothing better to do than annoy the crap out of people? You have been asked nicely to take it to the off topic forum. You can't control yourself though. You are a child.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Sorry snowflake, but this is about college entrance.
Why would this annoy anyone?
Go back to your soy nonfat latte, you dick.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
I appreciate Sheriff’s post and it’s relevant to the college scandal as it addresses it. You’re only annoyed because you can’t handle the truth when someone points out how dumb you are.
Re: calling him a child...Who’s more childish? Someone who posts relevant information or someone who has to resort to name calling cause you’re incapable of recognizing when you’ve been wrong all along.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
It depends. Are you referring to the Amazon deal that was going to create over ten thousand jobs in New York which AOC destroyed or the $3 Billion dollars that Obama gave to build a website for Obamacare that didn’t even work?
Or are you referring to the $5Billion dollars Obama gave to First Solar that went bankrupt in less than 5 years where the owners basically kept the money?
If you read justafans and dk’s justification for illegal immigration, supporting illegal immigrants is essentially corporate welfare by allowing them to pay lower wages at the expense of the taxpayer.
This is the only part of your response that addresses my question. You’re right, I don’t have numbers (people always disagree on the positive and negative numbers). What I do have, however, is the USA and California as proof. That’s called scoreboard.
“but they do not contribute more to the economy than if they were legal employees” Thats a red herring, irrelevant, non-responsive, and vague and ambiguous. You know there’s a saying, when you have the law, pound the law, when you have the facts pound the facts, when you have nothing, pound the table. Your pounding the table.
You may hate the Patriots, you may disagree on how they run their franchise, you may think that your OWN plan can be more successful, BUT you can’t dent that they’ve been the best of all time until now. You don’t have the BALLS to admit that and that’s weak.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Just as long as they agree with you.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
Well, I’m trying to explain to you the why, because it’s not like I track these numbers everyday, but given I have an MBA, have studied and invested in multiple industries, and have personally managed nearly a billion in revenue - in other words, tracking these metrics and their drivers is what I specialize in, I can confidently say I know my shit.
So here’s the question, if I go through and the pull the numbers for you - from non-biased sources, would you even believe them?
I'd like to see that.
Quite the opposite my friend, the more points of view the better. Come on, you know you get all flustered every time I post.
Put it this way, if I was starting my own off topic forum and we could only have ten posters, I’d take you and SM56, me and Espola, and hopefully 6 other posters with a different viewpoint than all 4 of us.
I wouldn't want to join any group that would have me as a member -- Groucho Marx (I think) (more or less)
Good call.
The Outlaw *BANNED*
PREMIER
LOL... you mean "choked out" because he refused to comply and fought cops? The same shit he'd done over and over before? What does it take to get you clowns to be honest with yourselves? Thousands of people are arrested everyday... they live because they comply. It's just really not THAT complicated. If holding EVERYONE accountable for their actions, instead of making excuses, is racist, so be it.
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
Here’s your proof. it’s just the tip of the iceberg, USAToday is certainly more liberal leaning so hope it’s a good enough source for ya, but I can use other sources if you like. A few things to note:
1) hopefully we can agree that the illegals coming here aren’t significantly contributing to the financial, real estate, tech companies, and manufacturing - those are very difficult for illegals to get jobs in without documentation.
2) hopefully we can also agree they are mostly participating in the agricultural/farming industry.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...5th-largest-economy-beating-out-uk/583508002/
Key takeaway:
“All economic sectors except agriculture contributed to California’s higher GDP”
In other words - not only are illegal immigrants costing federal taxpayers across the country, the entire argicultural industry in CA isn’t a top contributor to its GDP. All the subsidies, discounted water leases, etc... for farmers, still not enough.
But let’s not stop there:
Based on above, we know illegals don’t contribute to GDP, but, do they do any harm? Are illegals even a problem at all? Remember, CA has 2.2 million illegals, the most in the country. First link below shows for overall GDP, CA is the #1 state. But if you look at it by Per Capita, CA drops to #8.
All states with high GDP and high illegals drop significantly when calculated by Per Capita except NY because their financial services (Wall Street) is just such a huge player. There is a significant inverse correlation on GDP Per Capita and Illegal population. In layman speak, if illegals were helping boost GDP, ie the economy, GDP Per Capita ranking would go up with more illegals. If they are hurting the economy, GDP Per Capita ranking will go down. It clearly goes down.
GDP by State: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP
GDP Per Capita by State: CA & Texas drop https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
Unauthorized Immigrant Populations by State:
https://www.pewhispanic.org/interactives/u-s-unauthorized-immigrants-by-state/
Bottom line, yes the US is winning, CA has some very strong players, but it’s not because of illegals.
Look I think I'm way over on the other side from you (as in, I'd rather build a wall around Alabama than Mexico), but I think we can for sure agree we need better immigration policy as it applies to our neighboring countries. I'd prefer finding a way to make it more feasible for people to become legal tax-paying citizens, rather than say we should either 1. deny them entry or 2. exploit them as illegals.
But again, I'm not sure how a thread about cheating rich people became a discussion of dirt poor illegals. So...
Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
I’m fine with that, but please see previous thread on why/how the US determines the limit on how many to accept. It’s because we have to budget for the cost of supporting X many due to cost and can’t handle more than that - need to have jobs ready, etc... so they aren’t taking away from current citizens.
??? What is this proof of?
Well clearly there are jobs ready-- the ones many illegals are already doing! Most citizens of the USA don't want those jobs. Think Honey Boo-Boo. It ain't the pay. It's the work. It's like the same reason rich kids can't just study for their SATs. There's a lack of work ethic and a huge amount of- yes- entitlement by people who have citizenship in this country- of all income brackets. Let's just be a little real about this fact. I don't know of many US citizens who'd like to scrape the asbestos-filled cottage cheese off my ceiling.
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Supermodel56
SILVER ELITE
Which jobs are you referring to? Only one I think Americans won’t do is the farm labor, but who knows if paid higher? You can still do it legally by sponsoring an H1B visa and bring them in. This guarantees you’re responsible for this person coming in.
Sheriff Joe
DA
Who did these jobs before the envision?
I scraped off acoustic in the 70's as did my white boss and white coworker, what has changed? Many construction jobs were done by blacks back then as well, what has changed? ESL was 1 class in my highschool, what has changed?