2005 DA Standings

anyone see the TFA/RSC match? The game report was just published and RSC won 3-0.

From the looks of it, TFA played without five starters (three due to red cards from the LAG match), played two 06s up and it looks like without their coach or director of coaching. RSC was missing three players.

There may have been some controversy with RSC's first goal since it happened at the same time TFA received a yellow. In the 2nd half, TFA went to ten men at the 72nd minute after their leading scorer received a second yellow, and then RSC scored their last two goals.

Good on RSC for the win and putting some balls in the back of the net. TFA looks like they're having some tough times. any additional comments? would be fascinated to hear this match went.
 
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here's predicts vs actuals for this weekend (3/30 & 3/31). home teams are listed first.

Los Angeles
Predict: LAG 3 vs FCG 0. Actuals: LAG 3 vs FCG 2. Here's commentary (thanks Redcard for results and commentary)

"LAG scored 1st around 5 minutes into the game. Bad pass back by FCGS to the keeper who was not expecting it. LAG player got the ball was the keeper way out of position. LAG crossed the ball in the box and FCGS defender made an own goal. LAG went up 2-0 on a 1v1 against the keeper. FCGS keeper made a great toe save a few minutes later went could of had LAG go up 3-0. FCGS scored on a penalty kick to make it 2-1. PK was actually taken twice. LAG keeper made the save but I believe he left the goal line early so there was a re-do and FCGS was able to put the ball into the net the 2nd time.

Halftime score was 2-1 LAG

LAG scored 2 minutes into the 2nd half on a cross to the left side into an open net. Around the 15 minute mark LAG was called for a handball just outside the box on the left side. DFK was taken and FCGS scored on a beautiful header. FCGS 2nd keeper who was actually sick and was on the bench just in case of an emergency received a yellow card around 20 minutes into the 2nd half for mouthing off to the referee. I believe his words were "Don't be afraid of the shield, blow the damn whistle". Yeah, I'm the proud dad of that kid...lol. Overall, it was a pretty good match. A couple of mistakes really caused the game for FCGS."
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Predict: Legends 3 vs LAUFA 1. Actuals: Legends 1 vs LAUFA 0. Here's commentary (thanks ilikefutbol for results and commentary):

"Legends 1-0 over Laufa. Tale of two halves. Laufa took it to them in the 1st. Laufa was the aggressor, winning most of the 50/50 balls. Should've had a lead at half, but couldn't get a clean strike when the opportunities came up. Legends keeper came up big on a 1v1 a few minutes before the whistle.

2nd half, Legends shuffled the lineup and strategy. LFC attacked more and was much more aggressive. Numerous chances to score, finally converted on a free kick from far out,to an un-marked player who had time to collect and score. Laufa defender had a nice goal line slide to deny a 2nd goal.

Game played out like it should've been 3-2 or 3-3."​

Predict: LAFC 5 vs Pats 0. Actuals: LAFC 7 vs Pats 0. LAFC came full strength for this match, only playing one 06 up, and scored in the first minute. It was downhill after that for the Pats. The one bit of good news for the Pats is that they had 13 players rostered (as opposed to just 11) for the first time in a while.

Predict: Real SoCal 1 vs TFA 3. Actuals: Real SoCal 3 vs TFA 0. After only scoring two goals in the their previous 12 matches, things clicked offensively this weekend for RSC. While there were caveats with the TFA match, RSC deserves credit for righting the ship. Hopefully, continues weekend against FCG. here's commentary on match from the game report: There may have been some controversy with RSC's first early goal since it happened at the same time TFA received a yellow. In the 2nd half, TFA went to ten men at the 72nd minute after their leading scorer received a second yellow (called questionable by feedback via dm), then went to nine men after an injury (again, per feedback via dm), and then RSC scored their last two goals.

Per the game report, TFA played without five starters (three due to red cards from the LAG match), played two 06s up and it looks like without their coach or director of coaching. RSC was missing three players. Good on RSC for the win and finally putting some balls in the back of the net. TFA looks like they're continuing to have some tough times/luck.

Predict: Pats 1 vs. Real SoCal 1. Actuals: Pats 2 vs. Real SoCal 3. Per the game report, this one looks like it was a fun match to watch. Pats again had 13 rostered (a good thing), and scored the first goal in the 18th minute. RSC tied it up at at the 29th minute and the teams went into halftime tied 1-1. In the second half, Pats went ahead 2-1 with a goal in the 48th minute but RSC came back with two quick ones with about ten minutes left in the match. HH scored all three goals for RSC for the hat trick (plus one yellow after his third goal)

San Diego
Predict: SD Surf 4 vs Nomads 1. Actuals: SD Surf 7 vs Nomads 2. (thanks to Soccerdad79 for the result) SD Surf has almost 100% full strength for this match (still missing GE who was called into the US Soccer Central Training Camp), and MMG went for a hat trick, XG went for a brace and TW put in one as well in full SD Surf shock and awe mode. Good on the Nomads for getting a couple in against a tough SD Surf side

Predict: Strikers 3 vs LAGSD 1. Actuals: Strikers 3 vs LAGSD 1

Predict: SD Surf 5 vs SDSC 0. Actuals: SD Surf 4 vs SDSC 0 (thanks to Soccerdad79 for the result - any additional commentary?)
 
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here's predicts for this weekend (4/5 & 4/6). home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
FCG 3 vs Real SoCal 1. note: will be a good test to see if the goal scoring progress RSC made this last weekend is a fluke or not.

Pats 2 vs TFA 2 *match to watch * initially thought this was bug in the algo. but, pats have some good trends going on and TFA has some bad trends. The noise with TFA's coaching staff is definitely an issue but some of the trends are longer term than just that. not sure how long the suspensions of the three players are going to go but missing three starters is also a factor. Will be an interesting match to watch.

LAUFA 1 vs LAG 4 note: if LAUFA does not score early, this one could get ugly.

Santa Barbara SC 1 vs Legends 2 note: both teams have improved significantly plus Santa Barbara is much better at home. however, the improvements seem to be offsetting, so Legends 2-1.

San Diego
Albion 2 vs SDSC 0

Nomads 4 vs OC Surf 4 *match to watch* OC Surf has improved significantly in the last month or so. be interesting to see if it continues. key challenge for Nomads will be keeping a lid on OC Surf's new found goal scoring firepower.

Arsenal 1 vs. Strikers 3

SD Surf 5 vs Albion 1

Strikers 4 vs Nomads 1

note: apologies for lack of SD commentary, but with SD Surf and Strikers being so dominant in SD, Arsenal fading and LAGSD not playing, results this weekend - except for OC Surf and Nomads - are pretty straightforward.
 
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Gracias for the standings. For the record, there’s no algo that can handicap TFAs erratic play as of late. They could win 4-0 or lose 2-1 and I wouldn’t be shocked either way.
 
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here's predicts for this weekend (4/5 & 4/6). home team is listed first.

Los Angeles
FCG 3 vs Real SoCal 1. note: will be a good test to see if the goal scoring progress RSC made this last weekend is a fluke or not.

Pats 2 vs TFA 2 *match to watch * initially thought this was bug in the algo. but, pats have some good trends going on and TFA has some bad trends. The noise with TFA's coaching staff is definitely an issue but some of the trends are longer term than just that. not sure how long the suspensions of the three players are going to go but missing three starters is also a factor. Will be an interesting match to watch.

LAUFA 1 vs LAG 4 note: if LAUFA does not score early, this one could get ugly.

Santa Barbara SC 1 vs Legends 2 note: both teams have improved significantly plus Santa Barbara is much better at home. however, the improvements seem to be offsetting, so Legends 2-1.

San Diego
Albion 2 vs SDSC 0

Nomads 4 vs OC Surf 4 *match to watch* OC Surf has improved significantly in the last month or so. be interesting to see if it continues. key challenge for Nomads will be keeping a lid on OC Surf's new found goal scoring firepower.

Arsenal 1 vs. Strikers 3

SD Surf 5 vs Albion 1

Strikers 4 vs Nomads 1

note: apologies for lack of SD commentary, but with SD Surf and Strikers being so dominant in SD, Arsenal fading and LAGSD not playing, results this weekend - except for OC Surf and Nomads - are pretty straightforward.
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I guess is fun to read the "predictions" I can't even write the word prediction without laughing.
I heard that TFA is a complete disaster right now, players blaming each other during the game. Now, new predictions could be done based on team new status. Heard that LAUFA beat LA Galaxy badly during the whole game. LAG coach along the Galaxy parents were asking the ref to finish the game 3 min before the end. lol. Hopefully, a video could be shared.
These "predictions" are definitely fun. It takes a minute in the field to overwrite hours of "soccer analysis"
 
Emilio Castro said:
I guess is fun to read the "predictions" I can't even write the word prediction without laughing.
I heard that TFA is a complete disaster right now, players blaming each other during the game. Now, new predictions could be done based on team new status. Heard that LAUFA beat LA Galaxy badly during the whole game. LAG coach along the Galaxy parents were asking the ref to finish the game 3 min before the end. lol. Hopefully, a video could be shared.
These "predictions" are definitely fun. It takes a minute in the field to overwrite hours of "soccer analysis"
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LAG beat LAUFA 1-0, according to the DA website.
 
messy said:
LAG beat LAUFA 1-0, according to the DA website.
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Well, that is part of the problem. people here judge games/performance/development based on scores. That is WRONG, halo club competition is back on CSL or SCDSL. This is DA.
It is ironic and maybe not everyone will agree, probably most of you will not. But the clubs who develop players the most are; Pats, Strikers, Arsenal, FCGS, Santa Barbara, LAUFA and TFA. Clubs with less development are LAFC, LAG, Surf etc.. When you only recruit the best, the most talented players for your team, you become a selection, leaving away the development fundamentals. Now, if you select the best players but you play up in age and still dominating... Then yes, you are picking the best and at the same time making them better offering stronger challenges. Hopefully, make sense.
 
FCGS defeated Real SoCal 2-0.
I wasn’t there since my son was on his 8th grade trip to Washington DC but I’ll try to get some input this week while at practice.
 
Emilio Castro said:
Well, that is part of the problem. people here judge games/performance/development based on scores. That is WRONG, halo club competition is back on CSL or SCDSL. This is DA.
It is ironic and maybe not everyone will agree, probably most of you will not. But the clubs who develop players the most are; Pats, Strikers, Arsenal, FCGS, Santa Barbara, LAUFA and TFA. Clubs with less development are LAFC, LAG, Surf etc.. When you only recruit the best, the most talented players for your team, you become a selection, leaving away the development fundamentals. Now, if you select the best players but you play up in age and still dominating... Then yes, you are picking the best and at the same time making them better offering stronger challenges. Hopefully, make sense.
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I took your original comment that the parents were asking for the game to end 3 minutes early because LAUFA was physically beating LAG up. Are you saying that the parents and coach wanted the game to end early because LAUFA was dominating the game soccer wise?
 
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I took your original comment that the parents were asking for the game to end 3 minutes early because LAUFA was physically beating LAG up. Are you saying that the parents and coach wanted the game to end early because LAUFA was dominating the game soccer wise?
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That is what a heard from a Galaxy parent. Yes.
 
LAUFA 0 LAG 1 that was the final score. One of the best games I'v seen so far this year very exiting from the beginning to the end.
LAUFA was very aggressive from the beginning, LAG had the better chances to score in the first half and capitalize in the first 2 minutes of the second half to score a nice goal. LAUFA continued being very aggressive until the end of the game LAG keeper played an amazing game and stopped at least 3 shots that were going in for sure and they were spectacular saves can't wait to see this 2 teams play each other again.
Note that LAG was missing 3 key players, 1 defender due to suspension for the TFA fight and their strong forward J.O. (injury) that has scored 17 goals for them.
 
here's predicts vs actuals plus commentary where available for this weekend (4/5 & 4/6). home team is listed first.

Several unexpected results with the Nomads doing a number on the algo this weekend with two strong wins, a strong showing by LAUFA against LAG and Albion's match against SDSC.

Los Angeles
Predict: FCG 3 vs Real SoCal 1. Actuals: FCG 2 vs Real SoCal 0

Predict: Pats 2 vs TFA 2. Actuals: Pats 3 vs TFA 2

Predict: LAUFA 1 vs LAG 4 Actuals: LAUFA 0 vs LAG 1 here's commentary from rememberme. Thx!:
"LAUFA 0 LAG 1 that was the final score. One of the best games I'v seen so far this year very exiting from the beginning to the end. LAUFA was very aggressive from the beginning, LAG had the better chances to score in the first half and capitalize in the first 2 minutes of the second half to score a nice goal. LAUFA continued being very aggressive until the end of the game LAG keeper played an amazing game and stopped at least 3 shots that were going in for sure and they were spectacular saves can't wait to see this 2 teams play each other again. Note that LAG was missing 3 key players, 1 defender due to suspension for the TFA fight and their strong forward J.O. (injury) that has scored 17 goals for them."

Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs Legends 2. Actuals: Santa Barbara SC 0 vs Legends 7. here's commentary from ilikefutbol (thx):

"legends put it all together. Previous games they’ve dominated possession but had to struggle to get the W. This day they converted. 2-0 at half. 2nd half came out on fire with constant ball movement and pressure on SB. Hit 2 free kicks from bout 30 yds, last 25 mins was garbage time as they say in the NBA."

San Diego
Predict: Albion 2 vs SDSC 0. Actuals: Albion 6 vs SDSC 1

Predict: Nomads 4 vs OC Surf 4 Actuals: Nomads 1 vs OC Surf 0

Predict: Arsenal 1 vs. Strikers 3 Actuals: Arsenal 1 vs. Strikers 4

Predict: SD Surf 5 vs Albion 1 Actuals: SD Surf 4 vs Albion 1

Predict: Strikers 4 vs Nomads 1 Actuals: Strikers 0 vs Nomads 2

Note: A big weekend for the Nomads with unexpected wins in two tough matches. LR had a brace against the Strikers and RR had the winner against OC Surf. Any more commentary on either match? Both looked like they solid games.
 
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Emilio Castro said:
Well, that is part of the problem. people here judge games/performance/development based on scores. That is WRONG, halo club competition is back on CSL or SCDSL. This is DA.
It is ironic and maybe not everyone will agree, probably most of you will not. But the clubs who develop players the most are; Pats, Strikers, Arsenal, FCGS, Santa Barbara, LAUFA and TFA. Clubs with less development are LAFC, LAG, Surf etc.. When you only recruit the best, the most talented players for your team, you become a selection, leaving away the development fundamentals. Now, if you select the best players but you play up in age and still dominating... Then yes, you are picking the best and at the same time making them better offering stronger challenges. Hopefully, make sense.
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What is part of the problem? Your post sounded like LAUFA was beating LAG so bad they had to beg for mercy...but LAUFA hadn't even scored!
And on what criteria are you going to suggest which clubs develop players the most? I love TFA, but TFA gets the best players from the jump, because they have the youngest fully-funded teams so they start with the most talent.
On what basis would you say that Arsenal develops players the best? Not according to my eyes.
 
messy said:
What is part of the problem? Your post sounded like LAUFA was beating LAG so bad they had to beg for mercy...but LAUFA hadn't even scored!
And on what criteria are you going to suggest which clubs develop players the most? I love TFA, but TFA gets the best players from the jump, because they have the youngest fully-funded teams so they start with the most talent.
On what basis would you say that Arsenal develops players the best? Not according to my eyes.
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Again, you are judging based on scores. let me ask you this. What are the team feeders for LAFC or LAG? Answer - TFA, LAUFA, FCGS. Why these big clubs are looking for made players? don't they have the top coaches/developers?.
Now, you are saying because they are fully funded, they can scout the best. I agree with you, they are walking a bit faster, no need to teach walking lessons when they could teach running lessons. Fully agree.
The point is this. why do they want the best players in town? just to compete against the same level/competition where these players were taken from... Something here does not make any sense, I really don't see the need to play games like that, losing wouldn't be an option for these teams (being fair), and on top of that, these teams aren't satisfied with player they got (because they don't perform per MLS program), they are always overlooking players for other clubs. really? Are LAUFA ot TFA coaches better than those under "MLS" title? there is nothing personal against any club, it is just a POV of why soccer isn't growing in the US.
MLS Academies should be scouting the best players around, setting up fantastic teams and make them play one or two years up, remember this is DA, not MLS. on MLS, yes all you do is a marketing movement to sell game tickets and jerseys, that is the whole purpose of US soccer. But 14/15 years old player... you need to develop them.
Clubs mentioned above do more development than MLS academy coaches, like it or not. just look how strong is Pats on their older divisions, Galaxy can't compete against them. That is for a reason, not a coincidence. You might be at the Galaxy or LAFC roster and might be so proud to wear the jersey, your clock is running and your son will pay it. Hopefully, you are preparing your son mentally for the hit at the end of the season.
 
messy said:
What is part of the problem? Your post sounded like LAUFA was beating LAG so bad they had to beg for mercy...but LAUFA hadn't even scored!
And on what criteria are you going to suggest which clubs develop players the most? I love TFA, but TFA gets the best players from the jump, because they have the youngest fully-funded teams so they start with the most talent.
On what basis would you say that Arsenal develops players the best? Not according to my eyes.
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I didn't see LAUFA vs LAG game. but in the game, there are two factors to evaluate your progress. One is the score and the other is the game quality. i.e. Pats 05 is the last one in the imaginary Stats table. but ironically, that is the team that in my eyes plays the most consistent, educated and classy soccer. If this team remains together for coup[le more years, it will dominate the region easily. Then, LAFC or LAG will take their players lol.
I also heard that even the goalkeeper got a fault due to the fact he took so long to throw the ball in many times just to eat the time, and also that the coach handed the ball off the field to eat more time, while he was asking the ref to terminate the game. MAybe a Galaxy or Laufa parent can confirm this.
Who won the game?. is the question for you.
 
Emilio Castro said:
I didn't see LAUFA vs LAG game. but in the game, there are two factors to evaluate your progress. One is the score and the other is the game quality. i.e. Pats 05 is the last one in the imaginary Stats table. but ironically, that is the team that in my eyes plays the most consistent, educated and classy soccer. If this team remains together for coup[le more years, it will dominate the region easily. Then, LAFC or LAG will take their players lol.
I also heard that even the goalkeeper got a fault due to the fact he took so long to throw the ball in many times just to eat the time, and also that the coach handed the ball off the field to eat more time, while he was asking the ref to terminate the game. MAybe a Galaxy or Laufa parent can confirm this.
Who won the game?. is the question for you.
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TFA plays the best brand of soccer at that age, to my eyes.
And Surf better than all of them.
But you haven’t told me how Arsenal has developed players. Like who?
 
Kante said:
here's predicts vs actuals plus commentary where available for this weekend (4/5 & 4/6). home team is listed first.

Several unexpected results with the Nomads doing a number on the algo this weekend with two strong wins, a strong showing by LAUFA against LAG and Albion's match against SDSC.

Los Angeles
Predict: FCG 3 vs Real SoCal 1. Actuals: FCG 2 vs Real SoCal 0

Predict: Pats 2 vs TFA 2. Actuals: Pats 3 vs TFA 2

Predict: LAUFA 1 vs LAG 4 Actuals: LAUFA 0 vs LAG 1 here's commentary from rememberme. Thx!:
"LAUFA 0 LAG 1 that was the final score. One of the best games I'v seen so far this year very exiting from the beginning to the end. LAUFA was very aggressive from the beginning, LAG had the better chances to score in the first half and capitalize in the first 2 minutes of the second half to score a nice goal. LAUFA continued being very aggressive until the end of the game LAG keeper played an amazing game and stopped at least 3 shots that were going in for sure and they were spectacular saves can't wait to see this 2 teams play each other again. Note that LAG was missing 3 key players, 1 defender due to suspension for the TFA fight and their strong forward J.O. (injury) that has scored 17 goals for them."

Predict: Santa Barbara SC 1 vs Legends 2. Actuals: pending

San Diego
Predict: Albion 2 vs SDSC 0. Actuals: Albion 6 vs SDSC 1

Predict: Nomads 4 vs OC Surf 4 Actuals: Nomads 1 vs OC Surf 0

Predict: Arsenal 1 vs. Strikers 3 Actuals: Arsenal 1 vs. Strikers 4

Predict: SD Surf 5 vs Albion 1 Actuals: SD Surf 4 vs Albion 1

Predict: Strikers 4 vs Nomads 1 Actuals: Strikers 0 vs Nomads 2

Note: A big weekend for the Nomads with unexpected wins in two tough matches. LR had a brace against the Strikers and RR had the winner against OC Surf. Any more commentary on either match? Both looked like they solid games.
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Legends put up a touchdown. 7-0.
 
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