LAGSB - what’s going on??

timbuck said:
Our club accepts various forms of payment. And we are happy to work out a payment plan.
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He almost took one for the team
 
Surf Zombie said:
We are in MA and I can tell you first hand that both GPS & FCUSA, if nothing else, have figured out how to make $ in the world of you soccer. Both are expanding at a rapid rate, gobbling up smaller clubs at every opportunity. Both clubs run lots and lots of camps & tournaments, and have a ton of players spread across multiple regions. Their ceiling is NPL, as neither is in DA or ECNL, so they cater to the large segment of the club soccer market that is above town travel but below DA/ECNL.

GPS is very expensive, something like $3,500 for mid level U11–U14 teams. But, people love that Bayern patch that is right up in the corner of all their uniforms.
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I think only GPS club in MA is in DA.

I think the main way to make money is through the uniforms and by running their own tournaments.

GPS has the right to use Bayern logo in USA. So small clubs without DA/ENCL make affiliation deal with GPS to use Bayern patch.
Sometimes clubs keep their name while affiliated and sometimes they change the name to GPS.

They also have their own national tournaments. GPS teams across the country get together for a tournament.
Then select players for regional and national teams. almost like a separate soccer world.

GPS definitely have figured out how to make money.
 
i_am_taxed said:
I think only GPS club in MA is in DA.

I think the main way to make money is through the uniforms and by running their own tournaments.

GPS definitely have figured out how to make money.
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Don't kid yourselves. All the suits (Brooks & Track) have figured out how to make money. The only guys not making money are the volunteers who are doing it for the love of the game.
 
El Clasico said:
Don't kid yourselves. All the suits (Brooks & Track) have figured out how to make money. The only guys not making money are the volunteers who are doing it for the love of the game.
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TBF isn't the point of starting a business to make money? If "volunteers" want to be compensated then stop volunteering and find a paying position somewhere else, nobody is forcing them to work below what they feel they are worth. The point of volunteering is just that... to volunteer
 
StrikerOC said:
TBF isn't the point of starting a business to make money? If "volunteers" want to be compensated then stop volunteering and find a paying position somewhere else, nobody is forcing them to work below what they feel they are worth. The point of volunteering is just that... to volunteer
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In some cases “volunteers” get credit towards Club Fees.
 
lafalafa said:
So you've been misrepresent who you really are, pitching all kinds of this about things the girls programs, tryouts, etc yet you just happen to know all these details about the boys program & yet have never posted anything in the boys thread before.

Really now tell us who you really are? Paying parent of a girl in the SB program,. Coach, board member which is it now?

Guess it's no mistake that the SB mailing address is right near the bullpen and your hiding some more BS

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Oh, and to add the address your referring to was brand new the day you posted this rubbish. The previous club address which was just used the day prior is in a different location. Therefore it’s obviously a temporary one. But, you caught me. I was hiding that BS!
 
Did those Galaxy SB coaches go to Vegas Cup and then this all broke out after? I think I saw many of the SB teams were playing there.
 
jrcaesar said:
Did those Galaxy SB coaches go to Vegas Cup and then this all broke out after? I think I saw many of the SB teams were playing there.
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Rumors began to initially swirl at that time. Yet, the rumors were far from what actually ended up occurring.
 
StrikerOC said:
TBF isn't the point of starting a business to make money? If "volunteers" want to be compensated then stop volunteering and find a paying position somewhere else, nobody is forcing them to work below what they feel they are worth. The point of volunteering is just that... to volunteer
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Nearly all of the soccer clubs I have encountered in SoCal so far—Galaxy SB included—are 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations and registered as charities with the state of CA.

So, on paper at least, they are organizations with a stated charitable purpose. They are, by nature, not supposed to be businesses generating profits, and for this reason (generally speaking, and not giving tax advice here), income related to their charitable purpose is not taxable.

In practice, many nonprofits are not profitable simply because a handful of their directors draw very nice salaries at the expense of the organization’s purpose. This is espcially true outside of soccer clubs, and may be true about a few clubs, but definitely not true of all of them. I don’t know about Galaxy SB specifically.

On the flipside, some nonprofits look like they are turning a profit because they make it a point to accumulate cash for some long-term purpose, which they don’t always disclose (like schools or hospitals raising money for a new wing, or a club saving money for major field improvements).

There’s some leeway, and some organizations push the boundaries, but generally, if an entity organizes as a 501(c)(3), it exists to carry out its charitable purpose, not to generate profits like a for-profit business.

Whether that’s how any given club (or any other charity) actually operates is a whole other ball of wax.
 
jrcaesar said:
Did those Galaxy SB coaches go to Vegas Cup and then this all broke out after? I think I saw many of the SB teams were playing there.
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Well I think it began by begin of fall I had reached out to the boys youth director who no longer part of southbay ——> steel United now. With some concerns questions regarding the club gave me some bs answer a month or two later, coach telling me he might moved to a new club after a season ended.
 
Footbollah said:
Nearly all of the soccer clubs I have encountered in SoCal so far—Galaxy SB included—are 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations and registered as charities with the state of CA.

So, on paper at least, they are organizations with a stated charitable purpose. They are, by nature, not supposed to be businesses generating profits, and for this reason (generally speaking, and not giving tax advice here), income related to their charitable purpose is not taxable.

In practice, many nonprofits are not profitable simply because a handful of their directors draw very nice salaries at the expense of the organization’s purpose. This is espcially true outside of soccer clubs, and may be true about a few clubs, but definitely not true of all of them. I don’t know about Galaxy SB specifically.

On the flipside, some nonprofits look like they are turning a profit because they make it a point to accumulate cash for some long-term purpose, which they don’t always disclose (like schools or hospitals raising money for a new wing, or a club saving money for major field improvements).

There’s some leeway, and some organizations push the boundaries, but generally, if an entity organizes as a 501(c)(3), it exists to carry out its charitable purpose, not to generate profits like a for-profit business.

Whether that’s how any given club (or any other charity) actually operates is a whole other ball of wax.
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Wait, does this mean i can right off my club fees as donating to charity on my taxes???
 
Every year my wife asks if we can write off our club fees, and every year I ask my CPA, and every year he says no way Jose.
 
timbuck said:
But you can volunteer at their tournament and write off the hours, right?
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Maybe. I've never thought to ask since I barely have enough time to manage every day life let alone volunteer for club/tournament activities. I just write the checks, go to games and cheer for my kids.
 
timbuck said:
But you can volunteer at their tournament and write off the hours, right?
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I'm not a CPA ... but, no, you can't write off hours donated. You could argue that the value of the club fees are not the actual value of what you are paying and deduct some of that cost, in theory.
 
jrcaesar said:
I'm not a CPA ... but, no, you can't write off hours donated. You could argue that the value of the club fees are not the actual value of what you are paying and deduct some of that cost, in theory.
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I know one club that you can pay the club fee as a donation and get to write it off.
 
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