Boys DA rumors

At the FL showcases we where told no other changes for now other than giving U12 back to the clubs.

Other announcements could follow in Jan when new/updated clubs are announced with possible changes to the age groupings. Some East coast & Midwest clubs didn't seem to support calendar year U16 as much as keeping U16/17 combined. not that much difference in those groups to make it worth it $$$ wise according to the few we spoke with.
 
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Bro. Lol. One post of this may have been sufficient. Lol.
 
Do we have any definitive info about the U13s next year. Our club is continuing on as if it's a sure thing, but I've heard parents of other clubs say that it isn't.
 
Girls DA club in Virginia announced 16/17 split next year on twitter a week ago. Curious if legit and if it applies to boys. Haven't heard anything on this in weeks.

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boomer said:
Girls DA club in Virginia announced 16/17 split next year on twitter a week ago. Curious if legit and if it applies to boys. Haven't heard anything on this in weeks.

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Yes the u16/17 split for the girls was announced at their showcase so u16(04) & u17 (03) will be celendar year in 19-20'.

The U13 for the girls thats listed is a new one and haven't heard anything about that or boys split just yet?

U12 going back to the clubs for the boys was the only thing that we heard from the boys showcase.
 
A post on the Girls DA board mentioned that a few regions have had the U13 for a bit as an experiment. I wouldn't read this as meaning that all the girls regions will follow or that the boys will keep U13.
 
focomoso said:
Do we have any definitive info about the U13s next year. Our club is continuing on as if it's a sure thing, but I've heard parents of other clubs say that it isn't.
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Interesting, our club seems to be preparing as if U-13 will be given back to clubs next year. They informed the parents very early on that U-12 DA would not continue. It seems that the '08 (U-11) will be the first age group to have to wait until DA U-14 since the recent change
 
StrikerOC said:
Interesting, our club seems to be preparing as if U-13 will be given back to clubs next year. They informed the parents very early on that U-12 DA would not continue. It seems that the '08 (U-11) will be the first age group to have to wait until DA U-14 since the recent change
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focomoso said:
Do we have any definitive info about the U13s next year. Our club is continuing on as if it's a sure thing, but I've heard parents of other clubs say that it isn't.
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Our club is proceeding as if we're playing U-13 next year, and why wouldn't they...the elimination of U13 is only a rumor. I also wouldn't expect a definitive statement from USSDA on a rumor. If they're going to eliminate U13 after next year I would expect them to announce that at the end of next year even if they're plan right now is to eliminate it. I would assume they would want to keep their options open and USSDA doesn't have a great reputation for being proactive.

I've heard second hand that our club will maintain a similar DA U12 training format for the 2008's (amount of training, roster size, two teams etc). I wouldn't be surprised if other clubs follow suit and there is a Pre-DA U12 bracket of some sort, although that's pure speculation on my part.
 
watfly said:
Our club is proceeding as if we're playing U-13 next year, and why wouldn't they...the elimination of U13 is only a rumor. I also wouldn't expect a definitive statement from USSDA on a rumor. If they're going to eliminate U13 after next year I would expect them to announce that at the end of next year even if they're plan right now is to eliminate it. I would assume they would want to keep their options open and USSDA doesn't have a great reputation for being proactive.

I've heard second hand that our club will maintain a similar DA U12 training format for the 2008's (amount of training, roster size, two teams etc). I wouldn't be surprised if other clubs follow suit and there is a Pre-DA U12 bracket of some sort, although that's pure speculation on my part.
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Again, I have no facts as of yet on U-13 next year but our club does seem very confident it will go away. My son is a '08 and is directly effected by this. Our club had already formed the DA U-12 team last year so this was inconvenient to say the least. They have proceeded with DA training and our team has been playing up in age ('07) as part of this and will continue to do so.

I am actually ok with DA starting at U-14 and a bigger supporter of advanced kid/teams playing up in age until 14 yrs old.
 
Is it fair to assume that no new clubs will be granted U13 for next season knowing that it would be removed the following year? I would imagine only clubs with existing U13 will just keep it for another year assuming it eventually gets removed the year after next.
 
Lots of rumors flying but seems clear to me that DA is in a transition phase and will be for next couple of years likely.

After a bunch of expansion this is the first year after many where Ussda didn't even take in applications for new clubs or expansion for existing ones. Basically a statement that more expansion is unlikely and changes are coming. So what are the changes?

Fewer clubs or age groups for those that don’t have full academy status for one is a good possibility IMO. U12 going back to the clubs for the boys is just the start. U13 for 18-19’ may well only be granted or offered to the full academy clubs for example. That AG could go also go back to the clubs soon as the shift to the emphasis on the older groups continue; the U18-U20 gap is something that's going to be addressed sooner or later so don’t be surprised to see a new program for those ages at some point and a reduced offering for the younger groups.

DA has basically been selling wolf tickets to 2nd tier or non MLS or professional affiliated clubs but that’s likely to change also. There could be a 2 tier system or secondary level that separates the professional clubs from the rest of the bunch at some point, either that or the non full academy clubs won’t be getting any more teams starting 18-19’ & will eventually age out in the next 3 years or so. This already started in a subtle way with the way the scheduling is done after u15+ where you play teams based on previous results or not.

One thing is for sure! DA won’t be the same going forward, a transition has already begun where or how it ends up is still anybodies guess? Thank you, next kind of deal.

Some of the bigger clubs or MLS ones will continue on with U12 programming and there are rumors about another usclub league or offering in the works for 18-19' season.
 
younothat said:
Lots of rumors flying but seems clear to me that DA is in a transition phase and will be for next couple of years likely.

After a bunch of expansion this is the first year after many where Ussda didn't even take in applications for new clubs or expansion for existing ones. Basically a statement that more expansion is unlikely and changes are coming. So what are the changes?

Fewer clubs or age groups for those that don’t have full academy status for one is a good possibility IMO. U12 going back to the clubs for the boys is just the start. U13 for 18-19’ may well only be granted or offered to the full academy clubs for example. That AG could go also go back to the clubs soon as the shift to the emphasis on the older groups continue; the U18-U20 gap is something that's going to be addressed sooner or later so don’t be surprised to see a new program for those ages at some point and a reduced offering for the younger groups.

DA has basically been selling wolf tickets to 2nd tier or non MLS or professional affiliated clubs but that’s likely to change also. There could be a 2 tier system or secondary level that separates the professional clubs from the rest of the bunch at some point, either that or the non full academy clubs won’t be getting any more teams starting 18-19’ & will eventually age out in the next 3 years or so. This already started in a subtle way with the way the scheduling is done after u15+ where you play teams based on previous results or not.

One thing is for sure! DA won’t be the same going forward, a transition has already begun where or how it ends up is still anybodies guess? Thank you, next kind of deal.

Some of the bigger clubs or MLS ones will continue on with U12 programming and there are rumors about another usclub league or offering in the works for 18-19' season.
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Thanks for bringing this string back alive. Still waiting to hear what the boys side will do with U16 and U17 age groups next year. It is confirmed that the girls side is splitting. Nothing out there that addresses the boys side.
 
younothat said:
DA has basically been selling wolf tickets to 2nd tier or non MLS or professional affiliated clubs but that’s likely to change also. .
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With the new law, they can only sell rescue wolf tickets.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Ok, here's what I've seen on the rumor mill...
I've seen it said that in the 2020-21, they will eliminate U13 DA and break the combined U16/17 into separate U16 and U17 programs.
For the life of me, I can't remember where I read that. I think it was on www.bigsoccer.com.
 
younothat said:
DA has basically been selling wolf tickets to 2nd tier or non MLS or professional affiliated clubs but that’s likely to change also. There could be a 2 tier system or secondary level that separates the professional clubs from the rest of the bunch at some point
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This seems a little arrogant of DA to assume all the worthy kids will be playing for MLS DA teams. There's a ton of young talent that can't even make it onto a club because they don't have the finances.

The non MLS clubs can't get a fee like European clubs when one of their product (kid) goes pro and they are going to be further punished for not being an MLS DA... US Soccer makes no sense to me
 
LAFC was told earlier last month U12 was going back to the clubs for next season 19-20'. However, planning on continuing the U12 program without ussda and possibly with usclub.

For u16/17 next season 19-20' still proceeding with the plans for that to still be a combined age group since there has been nothing to date to indicate otherwise.
 
mahrez said:
LAFC was told earlier last month U12 was going back to the clubs for next season 19-20'. However, planning on continuing the U12 program without ussda and possibly with usclub.

For u16/17 next season 19-20' still proceeding with the plans for that to still be a combined age group since there has been nothing to date to indicate otherwise.
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Mahrez, does that mean LAFC will be adding 03s to the roster?
 
s0ccerM0m said:
Mahrez, does that mean LAFC will be adding 03s to the roster?
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LAFC has been scouting 03's and trialling some already so they have something in the works but very limited numbers I would guess. If the u16/17 stay combined I would guess yes they will have some 03's maybe like 6 or so.
 
jpeter said:
LAFC has been scouting 03's and trialling some already so they have something in the works but very limited numbers I would guess. If the u16/17 stay combined I would guess yes they will have some 03's maybe like 6 or so.
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Seems like pulling in an insignificant number of 03s is a mistake, at least for those players pulled in. Can’t see LAFC committing to U18/19 the following year (2020-2021) in order to keep those few players around. Too much recruiting to do. Just letting their 04s age up over the next few seasons seems more logical. That said, Mahrez would know more. Input?
 
SBFDad said:
Seems like pulling in an insignificant number of 03s is a mistake, at least for those players pulled in. Can’t see LAFC committing to U18/19 the following year (2020-2021) in order to keep those few players around. Too much recruiting to do. Just letting their 04s age up over the next few seasons seems more logical. That said, Mahrez would know more. Input?
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I'm pretty sure LAFC could put together a top team at any age level in a matter of months. They have that much prestige and are right in the middle of the strongest demographic.
 
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