Ponderable

Disappointed, nothing new? Really? Here’s the deal, you guys aren’t interested in a serious discussion, you’re just here for affirmation from like minded people. I just throw in some shit just so that you know, that I know, you’re full of shit.

I have never seen one of the posts calling out conservatives in any way. I do it all the time with dems and libs b/c I hate phonies and hypocrites. Did you not see what I posted regarding Kavanaugh? Although I’m watching all the latest and he’s doubling down that he didn’t do it and he wasn’t there. That’s f’n weak. Here’s a prediction, he’s going to crack when he testifies.

You want a serious discussion, really, let’s see if we can actually have one? You can’t stand Obama and I can’t stand DT, but I have balls enough to point out things he has done right. I’ll start with one good thing from DT and then it’s your turn on Obama.

I’ll throw you a bone. North Korea - he’s broken the ice with Kim and that’s a good thing. Because of that the threat of war is way down. DT did not win the game like he claimed, but he had a nice 1st quarter and the outlook looks promising. And I’m not even going to give him shit for the pace of denuclearization, that will take a long time if it even happens at all.

Your turn.
I think our government stopped working for us decades ago.
Both sides.
I voted for Obama over McCain, and stated this publicly on the precursor to this forum.
He was a sham, and certainly no outsider.
Donald Trump is hated by both sides, (really just one big side) because he wont play along .

The people who voted for him , like me, are finally, for once in our lives, seeing some representation in Washington.
 
Your turn tough guy. You just can’t do it can you? That’s what I thought, cowards.
I honestly can't think of 1 thing Obama did that I agreed with.
Maybe destroying our reputation around the world.
Maybe lying his ass off over healthcare.
Maybe destroying the small town type banking industry.
Maybe letting our Heros die in Benghazi.
Maybe sending illegal guns to Mexico that killed Americans.
Maybe purposely racially dividing our country, after all, that's what community organizers do.
Yeah, I can't think of anything he did well, except,
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I’ve had my own business since ‘98 and I’ve seen no difference. The only time I ever felt a dip was 2010, in the middle of the recovery.

Of course your healthcare costs are higher with DT doing everything in his power (and certain states) to sabatoge it.

Your kidding on that race relations thing right?
Really? You can't be that detached from reality. Our HC went up thanks to Obama, during Obamas terms and has nothing to do with Trump. You're grabbing at straws there.

Race relations... have you've been living in a cave? No really. Have you? I'm just gonna leave that right there because you must be living on fantasy island and I don't want to ruin it for you.
 
So how much should they take? And do I have your word that you are not going to bitch and complain when government services are not to your standards? That’s all I here from conservatives, whining like little bitches about everything.

Shit, you’re still blaming Obama for everything! AND you have the senate, house, White House, and Supreme Court AND you’re still f’n complaining!!
Im not the guy whining.
Im the guy who wanted the tax cuts and cant wait for more.
Did you mean to say, "winning"?

Are you the artist formerly known as Prince?
 
I honestly can't think of 1 thing Obama did that I agreed with.
Maybe destroying our reputation around the world.
Maybe lying his ass off over healthcare.
Maybe destroying the small town type banking industry.
Maybe letting our Heros die in Benghazi.
Maybe sending illegal guns to Mexico that killed Americans.
Maybe purposely racially dividing our country, after all, that's what community organizers do.
Yeah, I can't think of anything he did well, except,
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That’s what I thought, not one of you has the balls to say one thing that Obama did right. You won’t even give him credit for Osama Bin Laden.

That’s the same as somebody criticizing DT and not giving him credit for anything. You guys detest people who can’t see the positives of DT and yet you do the same to Obama. Phony, cowardly hypocrites. You guys just can’t do it.
 
That’s what I thought, not one of you has the balls to say one thing that Obama did right. You won’t even give him credit for Osama Bin Laden.

That’s the same as somebody criticizing DT and not giving him credit for anything. You guys detest people who can’t see the positives of DT and yet you do the same to Obama. Phony, cowardly hypocrites. You guys just can’t do it.
He did allow the military to go into Pakistan and get Binny.
He gets credit for letting our guys do their job that one time.
Not so much with Benghazi, though.
 
That’s what I thought, not one of you has the balls to say one thing that Obama did right. You won’t even give him credit for Osama Bin Laden.

That’s the same as somebody criticizing DT and not giving him credit for anything. You guys detest people who can’t see the positives of DT and yet you do the same to Obama. Phony, cowardly hypocrites. You guys just can’t do it.
How hard was that decision to kill bin laden?
 
How hard was that decision to kill bin laden?
I dont think he would have ok'd the mission unless it was 100% positive Bin Laden was there.
I truly believe the Pakistanis gave him up, and the uncertainty was concocted as cover for the Pakistani establishment.
Making Obama appear as if he actually had a set of balls was an added benefit for our establishment.
 
So how much should they take? And do I have your word that you are not going to bitch and complain when government services are not to your standards? That’s all I here from conservatives, whining like little bitches about everything.

Shit, you’re still blaming Obama for everything! AND you have the senate, house, White House, and Supreme Court AND you’re still f’n complaining!!
That's all you hear?
Horseshit!
 
That’s what I thought, not one of you has the balls to say one thing that Obama did right. You won’t even give him credit for Osama Bin Laden.

That’s the same as somebody criticizing DT and not giving him credit for anything. You guys detest people who can’t see the positives of DT and yet you do the same to Obama. Phony, cowardly hypocrites. You guys just can’t do it.



How can you not love this guy?
That is if you are an American Patriot.

Pollak: Celebrating Two Years of Restoration Under President Trump on Constitution Day

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On March 20, 2010, tens of thousands of Tea Party protesters gathered on Capitol Hill to oppose the imminent passage of Obamacare in the House of Representatives.
One of the more memorable signs was one that simply read, “Restoration Not Transformation.” It was a slogan that referred to Barack Obama’s declaration, days before the 2008 presidential election, that his goal was “fundamentally transforming the United States of America.” In response, a grass roots movement emerged that aimed not only to control federal spending, but also to defend the Constitution of the United States from Obama’s designs.



The Tea Party fell short of its first goal — largely because politicians, right and left, find it impossible to cut spending on anything. (Most of the “cuts” of the dreaded “sequester” were merely caps on increased future spending.) But it succeeded in the second, thanks to the election of President Donald Trump, who has set about restoring the Founders’ constitutional vision.

He has done so in the following ways:



  • Appointing conservative, constitutionalist, originalist judges
  • Rolling back the heavy regulations of the administrative state
  • Obeying the decisions of the courts (as Obama did not)
  • Removing Obamacare’s most constitutionally problematic provision, the individual mandate
  • Withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accords and the Iran nuclear deal, neither of which were ratified by the Senate
  • Defending the Second Amendment against gun control hysteria
  • Defending the free speech on campus
  • Defending religious freedom by easing restrictions on political speech from the pulpit
  • Defending the free press with a more accessible White House
  • Granting states more power to decide social issues themselves
Critics of the president might counter by accusing him of attacking the free press because he slams the “fake news” media, for example, or attacking the law enforcement and intelligence services by accusing them of political bias. In each case Trump is criticizing the performance of these institutions — not the institutions themselves.

Would-be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) claimed on Twitter on Monday — in honor of Constitution Day, no less — that Republicans were “blocking the Congress from performing Constitutionally-required oversight of the Trump Administration.” Her comments came just ten minutes after House Oversight Committee chair Trey Gowdy (R-SC) had announced that he would be investigating the head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) over allegations that he had misused government transportation. On that issue, as on others, Republicans in Congress have been aggressive in holding the administration accountable — certainly much more so than Democrats had been when they ran interference for Obama.

Some of Trump’s rhetoric suggests he is frustrated with the Constitution’s checks and balances. But he never disobeys them — unlike his predecessor, who did so brazenly with his “pen and phone.”


On this Constitution Day, Trump has given the nation something to celebrate again
 
I dont think he would have ok'd the mission unless it was 100% positive Bin Laden was there.
I truly believe the Pakistanis gave him up, and the uncertainty was concocted as cover for the Pakistani establishment.
Making Obama appear as if he actually had a set of balls was an added benefit for our establishment.

Obama did not relent in going after Bin Laden, and may have even doubled down on his predecessor’s effort. In 2006, conservative Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes told Hannity’s Fox News that in a recent meeting with Bush, the president had told him “bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.” Barnes said Bush told him that capturing bin Laden is “not a top priority use of American resources.”

And just six months after 9/11, Bush suggested in a press conference that Bin Laden was not a top priority for his administration. Asked whether Bush thought capturing Bin Laden was important, Bush scolded those who cared about Bin Laden for not “understand[ing] the scope of the mission” because Bin Laden was just “one person,” whom Bush said, "I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you."

GW Bush - now there is a man with balls - NOT!!!!
 
Worst recovery ever? Man U smoking some good shit. Numbers don’t lie.

Kavanaugh - the cover up is worse than the crime. He should have just owned it. He shoulda said something like, “yes I used to drink and get wasted with my buddies in high school, I did go to drinking parties, and I did hook up with girls, but I have no independent recolllection of what Ms. Ford claims. I may have been at a party where she was present, but again I have no recollection. If I ever did anything of the sort that she claims I did, I sincerely apologize for my behavior. Inebriated or not, that behavior is not only illegal, but offensive and wrong.”

He’s going to get confirmed regardless. Incident was too long ago and even by her account, it sounds like it all went down in less than a minute.

If this had never come up then the dems protest is just for show. He’s getting in. Plus, you have to be careful what you wish for, if they block his nomination, the next guy could be worse. Reading between the lines on all the people who have supported him, he sounds as reasonable a person as were going to get. As long as he’s not a stubborn narcissist (aka Scalia), I’m ok with it (because we can’t stall until 2020, somebody’s going in). As for the whole abortion thing, it’s going to be left up to the States, so the West Coast states don’t have much to worry about.



He didn't do it.....

It's a " Hit " job ....

Just like you must be hittin something to post that !
 
Obama did not relent in going after Bin Laden, and may have even doubled down on his predecessor’s effort. In 2006, conservative Weekly Standard editor Fred Barnes told Hannity’s Fox News that in a recent meeting with Bush, the president had told him “bin Laden doesn’t fit with the administration’s strategy for combating terrorism.” Barnes said Bush told him that capturing bin Laden is “not a top priority use of American resources.”

And just six months after 9/11, Bush suggested in a press conference that Bin Laden was not a top priority for his administration. Asked whether Bush thought capturing Bin Laden was important, Bush scolded those who cared about Bin Laden for not “understand[ing] the scope of the mission” because Bin Laden was just “one person,” whom Bush said, "I really just don’t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you."

GW Bush - now there is a man with balls - NOT!!!!

Obama did NOT go after Bin Laden......

American Troops DID !

Bin Laden was killed to cover up the CIA operations
that would have implicated " Dirty " Politicians !
 
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