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Lion Eyes said:
The program is in place, why not use it?
Then they would be here legally as opposed to illegally.
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Again, America has been putting up with an under-the-table "illegal" labor force for years. Personally I hear Trump prattle on about walls across empty desert and what he's doing at the boarder, and all I see is a populist. Or to say it in a more PC manor, I don't have any faith in his word or his willingness to actually be working toward a boarder solution- as I just think identity politics is a useful tool for him to get voters excited before an election.

So for me, frankly there is little surprise me illegals (or the billion dollar industry that draws them in) aren't going to be bothered with him.
 
Lion Eyes said:
Find a better argument for pc hypocrisy....
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Well if you don't make serious arguments, you can't be upset that you don't get serious responses.
It ain't vigilantes taking down the Confederate statues, it's local governments. You want to talk about or we going to keep on with posting pictures of 110lb little blonde girls and talking about how scared we should all be?
 
tenacious said:
You don't see labor as a commodity?
Let me guess, you think they're coming here for the amazing medical care we offer at our emergency care units...
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Ahhhhh you channeling your inner Gary Becker. I do think labor is a commodity and I do think they come here for the amazing medical care.
 
tenacious said:
Well if you don't make serious arguments, you can't be upset that you don't get serious responses.
It ain't vigilantes taking down the Confederate statues, it's local governments. You want to talk about or we going to keep on with posting pictures of 110lb little blonde girls and talking about how scared we should all be?
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Upset? No.
I am certainly amused. You talking about serious arguments is very amusing....
Lee, Jackson & the Confederacy fought for slavery and to preserve their way of life, folks want to remove those memorials
Washington and Jefferson owned slaves, should we not remove those memorials for the same reasons?
The Buffalo Soldiers slaughtered Native Americans
Should we not remove those memorials?
FDR imprisoned American citizens for no other reason than race.
Perhaps we should remove any memorials for FDR because of the angst they may create?
Where does it end? The arrogant hypocrisy that is?
 
tenacious said:
Well if you don't make serious arguments, you can't be upset that you don't get serious responses.
It ain't vigilantes taking down the Confederate statues, it's local governments. You want to talk about or we going to keep on with posting pictures of 110lb little blonde girls and talking about how scared we should all be?
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Its mobs of idiots.
Vigilantes usually have a purpose.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Both.
Have you been to a hospital south of the border?
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He hasn't or he would be posting very different.....

7up for disinfectant, paper towels for surgery, toilet paper with feces in the
rubbish cans, etc.....yeah they are " special ".....there are some good ones too....

I have nothing but praise for our emergency rooms....I'm in one solid
piece because of them....

Labor is an Asset and an Expense....

Being as Mr Butt Itch doesn't run a business he views every thing through
the lenses of a distraught employee.....
 
Lion Eyes said:
Upset? No.
I am certainly amused. You talking about serious arguments is very amusing....
Lee, Jackson & the Confederacy fought for slavery and to preserve their way of life, folks want to remove those memorials
Washington and Jefferson owned slaves, should we not remove those memorials for the same reasons?
The Buffalo Soldiers slaughtered Native Americans
Should we not remove those memorials?
FDR imprisoned American citizens for no other reason than race.
Perhaps we should remove any memorials for FDR because of the angst they may create?
Where does it end? The arrogant hypocrisy that is?
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You're making this about building statues for evil men, while I would humbly suggest it's more about having statues of the men who best represent the ideals of the Cities, towns and villages these statues live in.

Yes FDR horribly mistreated hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans, but he also lead the country thru WW2 and saved the American capitalist system during the darkest days of the Great Depression.
Tell me, what traits to you see in Stonewall Jackson that would make you want to have a statue of him over looking your town Lion? I mean to me he was a soldier who lost in the only war he fought in. If we're going to be fare, and never mind he was a traitor... no statue for Stonewall just on account of having lost the war.
 
tenacious said:
You're making this about building statues for evil men, while I would humbly suggest it's more about having statues of the men who best represent the ideals of the Cities, towns and villages these statues live in.

Yes FDR horribly mistreated hundreds of thousands of Japanese Americans, but he also lead the country thru WW2 and saved the American capitalist system during the darkest days of the Great Depression.
Tell me, what traits to you see in Stonewall Jackson that would make you want to have a statue of him over looking your town Lion? I mean to me he was a soldier who lost in the only war he fought in. If we're going to be fare, and never mind he was a traitor... no statue for Stonewall just on account of having lost the war.
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You're a complete idiot.
Im sorry, it just needs to be out there.
(I am truly sorry, its embarrassing for me to have to tell you)

*If you are under the age of 20, it may be that you are just ignorant.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
You're a complete idiot.
Im sorry, it just needs to be out there.
(I am truly sorry, its embarrassing for me to have to tell you)

*If you are under the age of 20, it may be that you are just ignorant.
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Ahh... right on que. The argument seems to have gone above Ricky's Breathless's head and he's taking it personal. What a joke...
 
Sheriff Joe said:
44% of federal prisoners are non US citizens.
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That was easy, you been hanging out with LE too much:
U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith said at the Texas delegation’s July 17, 2016, breakfast in Cleveland that Trump "knew what he was talking about. One-third of all federal prisoners today are illegal immigrants. They have committed some of the most worst crimes; they have committed the rapes and the murders and everything else."

We wondered if indeed one-third of federal prisoners were in the country without legal authorization. Not so, we ultimately found. Smith was citing a slightly outdated figure of individuals sentenced to the federal pen in a given year, not the total federal prison population.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...-false-lamar-smith-claim-one-third-federal-i/
 
Hüsker Dü said:
That was easy, you been hanging out with LE too much:
U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith said at the Texas delegation’s July 17, 2016, breakfast in Cleveland that Trump "knew what he was talking about. One-third of all federal prisoners today are illegal immigrants. They have committed some of the most worst crimes; they have committed the rapes and the murders and everything else."

We wondered if indeed one-third of federal prisoners were in the country without legal authorization. Not so, we ultimately found. Smith was citing a slightly outdated figure of individuals sentenced to the federal pen in a given year, not the total federal prison population.

https://www.politifact.com/texas/st...-false-lamar-smith-claim-one-third-federal-i/
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Thank you, Big Brother.
Anything else we need to re-understand?
 
Ricky Fandango said:
It was a PSA for Christ's sake.
Nothing personal, honcho.
Im the nicest guy in this forum.
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Yeah... you the smartest. Have the best hair. The best plumber ever born. Are the funniest and now I guess the nicest.
We know all this of course, because you A. spend a lot of time in here posting, and B. spend most of that time talking about how great you are.

Since we're speaking truth to power- that's why I've always kinda found you a bit pathetic. Who has the time to go on for days about how smart and great they are? lol
 
tenacious said:
Yeah... you the smartest. Have the best hair. The best plumber ever born. Are the funniest and now I guess the nicest.
We know all this of course, because you A. spend a lot of time in here posting, and B. spend most of that time talking about how great you are.

Since we're speaking truth to power- that's why I've always kinda found you a bit pathetic. Who has the time to go on for days about how smart and great they are? lol
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Thank you.
I would like to thank my press agent, my manager, and most of all,...
my Mom and dad.
I love all of you...
 
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