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Lion Eyes said:
Wondering...when do we tear down these memorials?
They were placed to commemorate the Buffalo Soldiers.
All black regiments that help wipe out Native Americans....

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When are "we" going to tear these statues down? I would assume when the communities that put them up decide to take them down.
I only point it out, because sorta like with the Confederate statues getting melted down all over the South... that's local politics so there is no "we".

As for you real point- I know Alt-Right leaders hope to fund raise on this issue, but it doesn't really run much deeper then a lot of folks in the South are ready to cut ties with the Confederacy. And their local politicians are quick to respond. That's my read on it.
 
tenacious said:
When are "we" going to tear these statues down? I would assume when the communities that put them up decide to take them down.
I only point it out, because sorta like with the Confederate statues getting melted down all over the South... that's local politics so there is no "we".

As for you real point- I know Alt-Right leaders hope to fund raise on this issue, but it doesn't really run much deeper then a lot of folks in the South are ready to cut ties with the Confederacy. That's my read on it.
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The "communities" are not deciding to tear shit down.
Lawless bands of vigilantes are.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
In my best tenacious/ Kelly Ozbourne voice, " Who's gonna clean my toilet and pick my fruit?"
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Dang you are worked up today. My point with the fruit, is California has a billion dollar fruit industry that relies on "illegal" labor. Everyone knows it, even if you're going to play dumb and try and change the subject.

What's the plan here? We're just going to build a wall and American Agriculture goes out of business because the laws the law. Or how do you see this playing out?
 
tenacious said:
Dang you are worked up today. My point with the fruit, is California has a billion dollar fruit industry that relies on "illegal" labor. Everyone knows it, even if you're going to play dumb and try and change the subject.

What's the plan here? We're just going to build a wall and American Agriculture goes out of business because the laws the law. Or how do you see this playing out?
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Your point is on the top of your head.
Its a racist and degrading point to boot.

If you dont want to pay a real wage, grow your own.
 
Ricky Fandango said:
Your point is on the top of your head.
Its a racist and degrading point to boot.

If you dont want to pay a real wage, grow your own.
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So once again nothing on the subject. Just more anger and name calling.
But hey, I can laugh at you all day. Tell me some of that right wing nutter butter Alex Jones has been feeding you.
 
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tenacious said:
Dang you are worked up today. My point with the fruit, is California has a billion dollar fruit industry that relies on "illegal" labor. Everyone knows it, even if you're going to play dumb and try and change the subject.

What's the plan here? We're just going to build a wall and American Agriculture goes out of business because the laws the law. Or how do you see this playing out?
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Seems as if the the plan is in place...H2A Visa

From the LA Times May 2017:
More than 11,000 foreign guest workers.... were approved last year to harvest the lettuce, fruit and vegetables for California’s $47-billion agricultural industry — a five fold increase from 2011, according to Los Angeles Times analysis of U.S. Labor Department data.
If this year’s hiring pace holds, that number will soar even higher.

entire article:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farm-labor-guestworkers/#
 
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