Fall 2016 SCDSL Season

Is there one for the Champions League? Would be nice to get the schedule
 
Syd'sDad said:
This doesn't even make sense. Some of these teams were last place in their division.
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This is the Europa Division (2nd flight). It consists of bottom 3 from Champions, 3rd&4th teams from the remaining of each region of Flight 1, top 5 teams from each region of Flight 2 and 2 wild cards from the remaining of Flight 1.
 
CZ Elite is tied in points with Beach Lohn for the Wildcard in the Champions division. We have a win and a tie against Beach in league. Shouldn't CZ advance and not Beach based on the head to head advantage regardless of the goal differential?
 
818soccermom said:
CZ Elite is tied in points with Beach Lohn for the Wildcard in the Champions division. We have a win and a tie against Beach in league. Shouldn't CZ advance and not Beach based on the head to head advantage regardless of the goal differential?
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Yes they should totally change the rules to benefit CZ and if we want to make it really fair should also give them a 2 goal head start in each play-off game!
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
Yes they should totally change the rules to benefit CZ and if we want to make it really fair should also give them a 2 goal head start in each play-off game!
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I'm not asking for a rule to be changed. The rule is that the head to head is the first tie-breaker. You must be a Beach parent
 
Syd'sDad said:
This doesn't even make sense. Some of these teams were last place in their division.
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818soccermom said:
CZ Elite is tied in points with Beach Lohn for the Wildcard in the Champions division. We have a win and a tie against Beach in league. Shouldn't CZ advance and not Beach based on the head to head advantage regardless of the goal differential?
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I actually wondered the same thing- and I am not a CZ or a Beach parent. I thought tie break rules were: head-to-head competition, then goal differential, highest goals for, fewest goals against. CZ wins in head-to-head, but then Beach wins in GD. On the other hand, do you really want to be the lowest seed going into Champions?
 
818soccermom said:
I'm not asking for a rule to be changed. The rule is that the head to head is the first tie-breaker. You must be a Beach parent
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Actually, the rules state:

TIE BREAKERS for ALL FLIGHTS when determining advancing teams:

When two-teams are tied then total points earned in head-to-head games against each other will determine the winner. If more than two-teams are tied, this tie breaker does not apply. If total points does not determine the winner then:

  • Best Goal Differential

  • Highest Goals For

  • Fewest Goals Against

  • Coin Toss

    WILDCARDS ARE DETERMINED BY THE HIGHEST PTS/GP (the second column on the standings page) when part of the divisional playoff format. Wildcards can come from any geographical division within said Flight.
Here is the link: http://www.scdslsoccer.com/docs/2016SCDSLPlayoffRules.pdf
 
SoCal GK mom said:
I actually wondered the same thing- and I am not a CZ or a Beach parent. I thought tie break rules were: head-to-head competition, then goal differential, highest goals for, fewest goals against. CZ wins in head-to-head, but then Beach wins in GD. On the other hand, do you really want to be the lowest seed going into Champions?
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The consensus on the team is we would rather play in the higher division and compete against the best team.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Actually, the rules state:

TIE BREAKERS for ALL FLIGHTS when determining advancing teams:

When two-teams are tied then total points earned in head-to-head games against each other will determine the winner. If more than two-teams are tied, this tie breaker does not apply. If total points does not determine the winner then:

  • Best Goal Differential

  • Highest Goals For

  • Fewest Goals Against

  • Coin Toss

    WILDCARDS ARE DETERMINED BY THE HIGHEST PTS/GP (the second column on the standings page) when part of the divisional playoff format. Wildcards can come from any geographical division within said Flight.
Here is the link: http://www.scdslsoccer.com/docs/2016SCDSLPlayoffRules.pdf
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Again: I'm not a CZ or Beach parent, but those two teams were tied in PTS/GP. They were vying for the last wildcard spot into Champions. If they played head to head twice, with a tie once and a win for CZ once, shouldn't CZ win the tie break and advance to the last wild card spot in Champions? The other wild card team is not in a three way tie, so there is no reason to go to GD.
 
SoCal GK mom said:
Again: I'm not a CZ or Beach parent, but those two teams were tied in PTS/GP. They were vying for the last wildcard spot into Champions. If they played head to head twice, with a tie once and a win for CZ once, shouldn't CZ win the tie break and advance to the last wild card spot in Champions? The other wild card team is not in a three way tie, so there is no reason to go to GD.
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Ummm, it states in the rules that the first tie breaker IS GD....I've got no skin in this game either, just trying to help clarify what the rules are. It seems to me they are looking at the "body of work" across the season.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Ummm, it states in the rules that the first tie breaker IS GD....I've got no skin in this game either, just trying to help clarify what the rules are. It seems to me they are looking at the "body of work" across the season.
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"TIE BREAKERS for ALL FLIGHTS when determining advancing teams:

When two-teams are tied then total points earned in head-to-head games against each other will determine the winner. If more than two-teams are tied, this tie breaker does not apply. If total points does not determine the winner then..."

Bold text is mine, but doesn't that say head-to- head comes first? Maybe I am misunderstanding the wording?
 
SoCal GK mom said:
"TIE BREAKERS for ALL FLIGHTS when determining advancing teams:

When two-teams are tied then total points earned in head-to-head games against each other will determine the winner. If more than two-teams are tied, this tie breaker does not apply. If total points does not determine the winner then..."

Bold text is mine, but doesn't that say head-to- head comes first? Maybe I am misunderstanding the wording?
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Strong point! Have you contacted SCDSL?
 
SocalSoccerMom said:
Brackets have not been officially released. I just stumbled on Europa while updating team roster. Just keep in mind, it is not official....
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But then again, if this is what they plan to publish, will they make changes? If they err on one, who knows how many other could be impacted. Is their determination final?
 
Kicker4Life said:
Ummm, it states in the rules that the first tie breaker IS GD....I've got no skin in this game either, just trying to help clarify what the rules are. It seems to me they are looking at the "body of work" across the season.
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The first part of the rules states when two teams are tied then head to head points against each other will determine the winner. It's hard to understand the rules when the first bullet point says Goal differential right after that.
 
And if they are going to use GD for placement, they should cap the # of goals that can be counted for a game. This doesn't impact the Champions flight but lower flights,
 
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