"Gone to the waste side" now enters my list of spoonerisms.
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"Gone to the waste side" now enters my list of spoonerisms.
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Yea, agree but it was not a team from the host club beating a rival. It was a team from another club. They played well.
jrcaesar
SILVER ELITE
I like that strategy by the winning coach: Kids need to practice one-on-one skills and the likelihood that the player will beat all 10 defenders by herself is low (you would think). Makes the defending players defend something without just watching 60 straight possession passes. Key is to make sure it's not the superstars who are doing that one-on-one carrying.
The tactic I’ve seen implemented in lopsided games is that when Team A (who is blowing out Team B) is required to connect x # of passes loses possession or Team b gets a touch, the ball has to go all the way back to the keeper before they can start their pass count again.
46n2
SILVER ELITE
if its so one sided , pull as many players as you can, demand so many touches from your players prior to advancing, ultimately pull your goalie....
22-0 is a tough loss , and totally uncalled for......even if the team is not up to par , playing up in tournament or just not a good team......theres no reason for the score to be that high maybe 10,11......but 22???
A good spanking is always fun, but kicking and beating someone while their down is not part of good sportsmanship or how you should be raising these kids.
in the end this was uncalled for.
22-0 is a tough loss , and totally uncalled for......even if the team is not up to par , playing up in tournament or just not a good team......theres no reason for the score to be that high maybe 10,11......but 22???
A good spanking is always fun, but kicking and beating someone while their down is not part of good sportsmanship or how you should be raising these kids.
in the end this was uncalled for.
I've have always said that I would rather lose 1-0 then win 12-0 . ( and only partially in jest )
Having been on both sides nobody is happy or gains anything when one team is over matched.
And when the superior team starts playing keep away or starts taking turns having one player try to dribble the whole weaker team or some other variation , I find that even more humiliating and embarrassing .
If we are really serious about this problem , lets keep it simple and stop the game before it gets out of hand.
Perhaps for all youth games if a team goes ahead by 7 goals ( could be a different number ) the game is stopped . Nobody benefits by continuing to play an over matched opponent including when the better team tries various methods to stop or slow down the scoring. All that does is prolong the humiliation for NO GOOD REASON .
Even professional boxing has the 3 knockdown rule and the fight is stopped.
Having been on both sides nobody is happy or gains anything when one team is over matched.
And when the superior team starts playing keep away or starts taking turns having one player try to dribble the whole weaker team or some other variation , I find that even more humiliating and embarrassing .
If we are really serious about this problem , lets keep it simple and stop the game before it gets out of hand.
Perhaps for all youth games if a team goes ahead by 7 goals ( could be a different number ) the game is stopped . Nobody benefits by continuing to play an over matched opponent including when the better team tries various methods to stop or slow down the scoring. All that does is prolong the humiliation for NO GOOD REASON .
Even professional boxing has the 3 knockdown rule and the fight is stopped.
Surfref
PREMIER
I was talking to my daughter yesterday about this topic and she reminded me of one of her college games and that sometimes it is okay to beat the crap out of the other team. She was a college freshman and in their third preseason game they played a team from Missouri that they beat the prior year 5-1, but the other team took two of my daughters team's players out for the season with a broken tib/fib and ankle. Both nasty intentional tackles. When my daughter played the Missouri team their goal was to get revenge by embarrassing them and running the score up. They ended up beating them 11-0 with no one getting hurt.
Penalty Kicks Stink
SILVER ELITE
With only 5 teams in this age groups bracket it seems to me Pats and all their chapters could have offered at no cost or minimal cost to get (3) more 2009 teams so they could split the brackets into 2 tiers at a minimum. How do you not have your club teams support your own tournament?
My daughters a keeper and one game (U14) we were being blown out 11-0 there were circumstances that played into the lost injury, heat exhaustion.. The opposing coach never pulled back his players even when we were down to 9 players. When the whistle finally blew (thank God) I walked up to my daughter looking to console her and when I'm about 5' away she says " Dad I think that's one of the best games I played so far" it could have easily have been 22-0. My point being maybe us as parents are more concerned about the score then they are. JMO
I agree with this 100%. It becomes hard when you start trying not to score and what it looks like to the other team. When I coached years ago in the u14 girls division we were beating a team 8-0 at half-time and when we started the second half we started to play keep away and connect 8 passes before going forward. The parents on the other team started yelling that we were just messing with them now and got all fired up. The girls got mad not he other side as well from their parents yelling. We had already rotated players from he front to the back and had all the subs on the field. However 22-0 is still out of hand.
MijoPlumber
SILVER
Mijo, Really that’s a strong player and respect her for that. That’s a tough situation and in that case the other coach should have throttled back.
Mija, I heard the OC Surf coach pulled all his forwards back and put his defenders and keeper up top! His keeper scored several of the second half goals! What more can the guy do?
There's nothing more humiliating that seeing that the other team is not playing at the maximum they can and still be losing. In other words, losing 5-0 to a team that is only passing and who has the goalie as forward and the shortest player as a goalie, etc., is not only humiliating, but disrespectful to the game and to the other team. Losing to a team who is playing to their max (or close to their max) 12-0 is honorable; it pushes the losing team to their top limits and every minute of the game they are learning. Learning new moves, new strategy, new ways to block, etc. You parents need to stop getting your panties in a bunch and just tell your kiddos that this is only a game and that they did great and to use everything they learned to improve, yadayada... At the end, losing 22-0 means you can improve that much, and would make it a bench mark to accomplish as a team.
Respectfully disagree. When youngers just try to play keep ball, they make mistakes, which ends up looking like a more balanced game. Every little kid knows when a goal is scored and it is black and white- failure/success- if you can turn the game into essentially a directional rondo, you've given everyone a chance to find something of value in the playing of the game, which is the point, not the scoreline.
Agreed. If you are winning by that big of a margin- it is likely that a handful of your goals came from ugly soccer. Not saying this team plays boot ball- but there’s probably a few fast, strong kids out there that were at a different level than the other team. Forcing those kids to think about passing first instead of blowing by the traffic cones on the way to goal can help overall development.
Multi Sport
DA
When a tournament is based on goal differential it opens up these type of scores. A simple 3 point system with various tie breakers (the WC had an interesting new one) usually is enough.
WC tiebreakers included unlimited goal differential before the interesting new one.
Multi Sport
DA
True. Probably why Panama got worked over the way they did. Do you like the new tie breaker?
Something that all of you fail to understand is that the objective (ONLY objective) of the game of football is to score goals; hence, goal difference MUST always be taken in consideration.
I know it's a cultural thing that must of you fail to understand, not growing up, living and understanding the game like in Mexico, and South American and European countries.
If you want your kids just passing a ball and running aimlessly, just go to a park and have them just do that. During a competitive game (such as the ones in club soccer) just learn to deal with the fact that the "Goal" is the whole purpose.
And again, if you feel a team beating your kid's team for more than 5 goals is soooo offensive and your kid's live will be ruined and his self steam damaged for life; then club soccer is not for you nor for your kid. Maybe AYSO where everybody plays and everybody is a winner is more for you.
I know it's a cultural thing that must of you fail to understand, not growing up, living and understanding the game like in Mexico, and South American and European countries.
If you want your kids just passing a ball and running aimlessly, just go to a park and have them just do that. During a competitive game (such as the ones in club soccer) just learn to deal with the fact that the "Goal" is the whole purpose.
And again, if you feel a team beating your kid's team for more than 5 goals is soooo offensive and your kid's live will be ruined and his self steam damaged for life; then club soccer is not for you nor for your kid. Maybe AYSO where everybody plays and everybody is a winner is more for you.