^this needs to be repeated!
Making Sense of the Leagues
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Simisoccerfan
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It is going to be very difficult to fit in the DPL 03 Pilot games on the same field as the DA games. Currently there are 4 games each day. Technically games are not suppose to start before 9:00 am though I do see some of the U14 games have started at 8:00 am. You need two hours between games otherwise everything runs late. If you start at 9:00 am with 5 games that last one will not be over till close to 7:00 pm. If you start at 8:00 am that still puts the ending close to 6:00 pm. Thus you will now need to make sure the games are played on lighted fields or they will need to secure two fields side by side for games.
outside!
DA
The 99-00 team used to play in National League and was a pretty good team if I remember correctly.
They went with him to Slammers ECNL and won back to back national championship
That’s the team. Yes.
With 3 (DA, DPL and ECNL) leagues for "top" players - What will happen to SCDSL? Are they still planning their "Discovery" bracket? My understanding is this is meant to be "higher than Flight 1 Champions".
Aren't many of the people who made up SCDSL also on these DA and ECNL clubs? Are they hurting the league they created?
Aren't many of the people who made up SCDSL also on these DA and ECNL clubs? Are they hurting the league they created?
futboldad1
PREMIER
Yup. Thing is, the dilution affects and hurts the "top" leagues too. Look at DA, there are many bad teams and lopsided scores there. At least with ECNL (also many lopsided games) they were allowed to play outside competition so when they had a walkover league schedule at least they could broaden their horizons in tournaments for the majority of a season. DA will just play the same teams (the out of state ones are even worse than the bad Cali ones) and when you're a club in Southern Cali (where the standard is far higher for girls soccer than the rest of the US) that makes zero sense if developing kids is the objective.
Maybe, just maybe the no outside competition rule is to maintain the facade....
My impression is that the Discovery Barcket was designed to provide additional features (game video, individual player recognition, and tournament support for winners) to make a logical appeal for some of the SCDSL clubs with DPL teams to have the DPL teams come home for fall league. Based on CRL, National Cup and major showcase results, there is nothing to suggest that DPL should be considered a top league at the level of DA or ECNL. At best DPL teams appear to be at the level of other competitive non-DA/ECNL club teams. At some point, the players, parents and clubs with strong DPL teams might see the benefit of instead playing in a strong LOCAL league with teams that are beating them in these non-DPL competitions.
younothat
PREMIER
Was told the discovery bracket has some special "bonuses"; champions get their league fees back which I heard was close to 2x normal, tournament entry, featured promotion, and some other stuff I don't recall the exact details . At least there making some attempt at rewarding competitive play besides the college showcase push, video, player(s) of the week, month bits.
For a Dummy you are pretty smart!
I haven't heard much more about the Discovery League lately. Is this still going to take place?
Has Coast Soccer done anything to try and bring clubs back? With all of the mega-club acquisitions, you'd think Coast would have an opportunity to take some of the smaller non-affiliated clubs from SCDSL and work something out. Or take clubs that stuck a mega club name on their jersey, but want to go back to being independent.
Has Coast Soccer done anything to try and bring clubs back? With all of the mega-club acquisitions, you'd think Coast would have an opportunity to take some of the smaller non-affiliated clubs from SCDSL and work something out. Or take clubs that stuck a mega club name on their jersey, but want to go back to being independent.
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2SoccerGirls
BRONZE
It's all really confusing, but I decided to write down everything that I could find out in one place! Of course, things have changed even since I wrote this last week, but I'm going to share in case it's helpful for others.
http://socalsoccermom.com/2018-so-cal-club-soccer-leagues-for-girls/
http://socalsoccermom.com/2018-so-cal-club-soccer-leagues-for-girls/
GoWest
GOLD
Very informative. Looks like you put in the work ... nice job!
Question....in one of your opinion pieces you say, "The “DA” is finishing its inaugural year and is currently CONSIDERED the top program for Southern California girls soccer ...."
'Who' currently considers this?
2SoccerGirls
BRONZE
Most people that I've talked to do, and the DA certainly does, but that doesn't mean things won't change next year across the country. ECNL is still very strong here (especially at certain age groups) and there are plenty of very talented girls who have decided to play ECNL over DA because they want to play high school, or for a multitude of other reasons. Of course, there are amazing players who don't play DA...or ECNL. Thanks for reading!
Answer: The US Soccer Federation, college coaches recruiting in SoCal, all the clubs with DA teams, the majority of parents in those clubs, US Youth Soccer/Cal South, AYSO, etc.
Those that disagree will be parents and players in the ECNL.
GoWest
GOLD
Hmmm, well, yeah sure USSF is a given being it was their idea to start a new league. College coaches and club DOC's with dual ECNL / DA programming that I've spoken with are not as firm in their convictions as you seem to be. As for the balance (parents, AYSO, etc.) that's a bunch of people you speak for ...not to mention the ECNL parents. I really don't care one way or the other because my DD plays for a pretty good team / club with dual representation in both leagues that is representing very well in both forums. Thanks for the response.
Best of everything to you and your player!
LadiesMan217
GOLD
What dual DA/ECNL SoCal club (other than Blues) DOC thinks DA is not their top program (or is not firm)?
Ghostwriter
SILVER
Great blog! It's been fascinating the last month or so reading the ECNL crowd openly attacking the DA. Other than Blues 01/02 DA team every other DA team in So Cal is the A team from that club. There is no debate it's just a fact. However there are good players in every league and whatever works best for your player is all that matters but reading all the negativity directed at a league that their kids don't even play in has been amusing.