I agree with that sentiment and appreciate your taking the time to respond, but I wasn't asking about playing more or fewer games. I was asking about playing more games against DPL teams in exchange for the games you used to play against quality opponents in major tournaments. In other words, and considering the numbers above, if your DD were on Legends' DPL team would you rather play your way to a potential championship in National Cup (and at least get to play some of those top SCDSL teams once) or give that up so you can play a second league game against Albion and LAGSD?
Girls DPL?
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I think the confusion comes on between the 9 game dpl league from this season and what the 03 pilot league will be next season, which is very different.
Simisoccerfan
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I think my answer was clear. I would rather play less games and a league schedule that continues into the Spring then play National Cup and various other spring tournaments. DA and ECNL don't play National Cup and I don't see why DPL should need to play it either. I know most everyone here wants DPL to play SCDSL and CSL teams so that the can figure out who is best but if development is the focus that really shouldn't matter. Now I would have a big issue if the DPL teams don't get exposure to college coaches but except for the round of 16 and later there are not many coaches around.
Wrong Pansy. People don't want more leagues that water down teams and don't want more travel.
Simisoccerfan
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Fiction, every single post you make here shows your true colors. It’s amazing that you continue to post since you don’t even have kids playing soccer. I have lost hope that you ever contribute even one positive, thoughtful post that adds value to this site.
There’s no championship in National Cup. It’s a farce. There are more than a dozen top teams that don’t even play. This has been the case since the ecnl/egsl days and now within DA and the pilot, the 03 national cup next year will even be worse.
But everyone picks where they go and they can be satisfied with their decision.
Its not a farce if college coaches are still attending the semis/finals and or regionals.
Simisoccerfan
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So out of 60-80 teams competing per age group its okay if only 4 teams get in front of any coaches? That is a waste of time for most teams.
Irregardless of level it is still a Championship.
Why don't you tell me what my true colors are Pansy?
You are wrong is you think the reason people want to DPL to play SCDSL/CSL is so that they can compare who is better. Most parents and players just want a larger pool of teams so that they can play closer to home. That is in the best interest of everyone.
Well obviously its not a college showcase, but the coaches must think there is some talent to look at in later rounds.
A question i would have about DPL is will there be video access of the 03 pilot. College coaches told me that DA video was instrumental in their scouting or recruiting.
They can attend a single game but if a kid goes off, was it a fluke or a consistent thing. Same with a poor game.
We’ve had college coaches at many of our regular season games - not showcases, just our Saturday games.
If the pilot has that access, it is likely worth it, if that’s what you’re looking for.
They can attend a single game but if a kid goes off, was it a fluke or a consistent thing. Same with a poor game.
We’ve had college coaches at many of our regular season games - not showcases, just our Saturday games.
If the pilot has that access, it is likely worth it, if that’s what you’re looking for.
Simi, since day one you've been trying to justify DPL's creation and attempting to distinguish it from all the other leagues and in essence claiming DPL as superior in status. Look at your own words, you're basically saying DPL is "too good" to do what the other leagues do and should follow what the elite leagues do.
Is that not smug and arrogant?
You have it backwards Simi, you and all the other DPL defenders began to refer to DPL as inherently superior to all the other leagues. Some of us knew exactly what DPL was from the get go. There was no need to play each other because other than adding DPL to the end of the team name, these were the same teams and coaches we all played before.
Oh, so now you're all about development? If it's all about development, you should have been against DPL's creation in the first place. And for the record, if this new "Discovery" league waters down the competition I will be against it. There's no need for it.
Is that not smug and arrogant?
You have it backwards Simi, you and all the other DPL defenders began to refer to DPL as inherently superior to all the other leagues. Some of us knew exactly what DPL was from the get go. There was no need to play each other because other than adding DPL to the end of the team name, these were the same teams and coaches we all played before.
Oh, so now you're all about development? If it's all about development, you should have been against DPL's creation in the first place. And for the record, if this new "Discovery" league waters down the competition I will be against it. There's no need for it.
I don't care as much about closer to home, but the dilution of talent amongst the teams. Every single team in the age group is impacted every time they try to slice a new piece of the pie.
Simisoccerfan
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Actually since Day 1 there has been a very strong bias against DPL on this site. I am sure I could pull up those posts. Since my dd participated in DPL unlike many of those against it all I have done is try and share our experience with it. I have never said that DPL is superior to SCDSL or CSL regardless of what you think my words mean. I have not said that DPL is too good to do what other leagues are doing. Your trying to twist my words to feed your own agenda.
Once again let me be very clear with my opinion. DPL is the 2nd teams for those clubs that are DA and don't have ECNL. ECNL is a far better option than DPL unless a girl really wants to make a DA team and is one of the very few DPL girls that stands the chance of getting moved up. It's a toss up on whether DA or ECNL overall is better and this is in flux with all of the changes occurring. I have said before that there are number of SCDSL and CSL teams that are as good or better than the top DPL teams. Overall its my opinion that the depth of DPL is a bit better than CSL Premier or Flight 1 but I know many of you want agree.
Finally, my opinion about not playing National Cup is not because I think DPL is better than other leagues. I just think National cup has been diluted through the years and now is a waste of time. I think DPL, CSL, and SCDSL should all be playing league games during the spring instead and only attending top showcase events that attract coaches. Also my view on development is that it occurs mostly during practice and all of these top teams need to stop playing so many games (including two or more in a day) so that every game is meaningful.
Simisoccerfan
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Fiction, your reason makes no sense. Whether you play a DPL team in National Cup or some other team your still traveling to the same place. SCDSL does a good job with their regional brackets. Champions bracket and Premier have teams all over So Cal the same as DPL so the travel for league would be no different. So either its back to wanting bragging rights or you think that many of the DPL teams are good and you wish you were playing these teams instead of some other teams. I still don't understand why you care or even spend the time to post here (other than it fills some void you have) since you don't even have kids playing.
Proof is the three-way tie in the Round 2 Pool A of the 2001 girls group
So Pansy, I guess DPL teams did not go to Arizona for a league game?
Simisoccerfan
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We didn’t. Only about 1/2 the teams went. Next year it appears the trip will be for two games on a weekend.
And that makes it all worth it.LOL
I have said before that there are number of SCDSL and CSL teams that are as good or better than the top DPL teams. Overall its my opinion that the depth of DPL is a bit better than CSL Premier or Flight 1 but I know many of you want agree. [/QUOTE]
Read these two sentences to yourself and tell me anyone who reads them is not going to assume DPL is the top league? Simi, you try hard to appear diplomatic, but you can't help yourself, you always have to throw in a "DPL" is superior dig. These are your words my friend. As to what is reality regarding overall depth, let's not leave it up to opinion, let a numbers person figure it out.