Girls DPL?

LadiesMan217 said:
Who alienated a player and forced her out? Stop making up stories like a snowflake. Some kids go to the sidelines and cry when asked to step it up by their peers. It is up to the coach or the player to decide. In this case the player decided and made the right decision.
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Are you mental? YOU were the one that said the kids forced her out. My kid isn't looking to move anywhere, but I'd love to know who your DD plays for, so I could avoid at all costs and warn others. And I'm ok with being called a snowflake. Was that supposed to insult me?

In case you need help remembering what you wrote, see below....

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TMK - Only 1 kid has quit DA at our club and she quit because of pressure from other players (she didn't belong).

LadiesMan217 said: ↑
The kid sucked and the other players were tired of it. Was it your kid?

BTW - she quit just before getting the boot. Coach probably happy.
 
meatsweats said:
Are you mental? YOU were the one that said the kids forced her out. My kid isn't looking to move anywhere, but I'd love to know who your DD plays for, so I could avoid at all costs and warn others. And I'm ok with being called a snowflake. Was that supposed to insult me?

In case you need help remembering what you wrote, see below....

LadiesMan217 said: ↑
TMK - Only 1 kid has quit DA at our club and she quit because of pressure from other players (she didn't belong).

LadiesMan217 said: ↑
The kid sucked and the other players were tired of it. Was it your kid?

BTW - she quit just before getting the boot. Coach probably happy.
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Count me as 1 vote for mental and arrogant.
 
meatsweats said:
Are you mental? YOU were the one that said the kids forced her out. My kid isn't looking to move anywhere, but I'd love to know who your DD plays for, so I could avoid at all costs and warn others. And I'm ok with being called a snowflake. Was that supposed to insult me?

In case you need help remembering what you wrote, see below....

LadiesMan217 said: ↑
TMK - Only 1 kid has quit DA at our club and she quit because of pressure from other players (she didn't belong).

LadiesMan217 said: ↑
The kid sucked and the other players were tired of it. Was it your kid?

BTW - she quit just before getting the boot. Coach probably happy.
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Nah, man. You don't understand. He is preparing his DD to go hard for the mean streets of Santa Clara U, you know the
Jesuits, ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ hard core. Broncos 4 Life, bro.
 
Pollo Elastico said:
So back to DPL stuff. This coming year it appears that the DPL clubs will offer a full schedule of games...ie home and away vs a rather limited schedule this year.

Does that make DPL attractive in comparison to ECNL in the SW area?
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Yes I hear DPL, will be more of a league this year. Fall and Spring, no National Cup. They will play some other DPL conferences in National Final. I hear Texas for sure will
have a DPL of some sort.

Anyone else hear this?
 
Soccer said:
Yes I hear DPL, will be more of a league this year. Fall and Spring, no National Cup. They will play some other DPL conferences in National Final. I hear Texas for sure will
have a DPL of some sort.

Anyone else hear this?
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There are some very good teams in DPL, but if my DD were on one of those teams, I wouldn't be happy about this. Only 14 of the 36 2003-2000 So Cal DPL teams made the Round of 16 in National Cup this year. Now it seems the 14 good DPL teams will have to give up playing other good teams in National Cup (and other tournaments) in exchange for playing the 21 weak DPL teams twice.

@Simisoccerfan, I recall you saying the imbalance in DPL didn't matter because it was only a few games out of the season. What's your view on this change?
 
Maybe the teams will become stronger now?

Just talking out loud.

All of these 2nd tier leagues have good ideas, bad implementation. Hope this is not the case.
 
Fact said:
The disctinction is that many like Lampchop are being mislead into believing it is sanctioned and possibly paying more for a false
name and false bragging rights.
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How are they paying more? Dumb. Where did you get that idea? Except for the "freebies", they are paying no matter what league they are in.
 
Can someone tell me, I am sure it's here somewhere but it's a very long thread, what a DPL season looks like in southern Ca? Months of play, number games, location of games last year? If you play DPL I assume you don't play SCDSL? Just the basics please
 
Fact said:
The disctinction is that many like Lampchop are being mislead into believing it is sanctioned and possibly paying more for a false
name and false bragging rights.
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Lambchop said:
How are they paying more? Dumb. Where did you get that idea? Except for the "freebies", they are paying no matter what league they are in.
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If you look what I said, I used the phrase "Possibly paying more." I don't know what your club charges but this season I looked into the cost of DPL vs the 3rd team at Albion. Despite the same number of hours of training per week and same season length, DPL teams paid a few hundred more than the 3rd teams. Plus they had to travel to Arizona for 1 league game. Two of their DPL teams would have been fine playing in Presidio and two could have played in CSL. So tell me what the extra $ was for, the patch?
 
SocalPapa said:
There are some very good teams in DPL, but if my DD were on one of those teams, I wouldn't be happy about this. Only 14 of the 36 2003-2000 So Cal DPL teams made the Round of 16 in National Cup this year. Now it seems the 14 good DPL teams will have to give up playing other good teams in National Cup (and other tournaments) in exchange for playing the 21 weak DPL teams twice.

@Simisoccerfan, I recall you saying the imbalance in DPL didn't matter because it was only a few games out of the season. What's your view on this change?
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We are no longer playing DPL but I think having a full DPL season mimicking the DA season is a good thing. I would be in favor of not playing National Cup and much fewer tournaments for DPL teams as long as they can attract college coaches when they play. After about the age of 14, I am a big fan of fewer games. There is no way girls at this age can play two games a day and still play at 100%. In fact I much prefer just one game a weekend. Kids need to be in an environment where they practice hard every practice and fight for the right for playing time on the weekend. Playing time needs to be earned when they get older and play at the higher levels.
 
"Kids need to be in an environment where they practice hard every practice and fight for the right for playing time on the weekend."

I would agree with this for the top 1%-5% of players from ages 15 up. Kids that are extremely self driven, and passionate about their sport will thrive in that environment and that's where the DA makes sense. The majority of kids at age 12 up will enjoy being in a competitive environment, an environment where they will be challenged and rewarded by growth and development (that should also translate to playing time). That is different from a pressure filled environment where every practice performance is scrutinized and measured by people who have no investment in them as a person. Most of theses girls will be done playing soccer after high school. Some will play in college. Almost none will go any further. The DA should be for players who have that high intensity drive and desire for soccer- that top 1%-5%. Everyone else should be playing on a team commensurate with their skill level and desire. There is no need (IMHO) to add 2-3 other leagues to fill some non-existent gap in player development. It just further dilutes the quality of coaching, and of play for the other 95%--which makes attendance a tougher sell to those college coaches if that is what your player is after.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
Yes. She had the offer to go full time just before HS or play HS. She is a junior and she chose to play HS knowing she won’t get to play next year. She now appears to be one of the 5-6 players that consistently goes the full 90 minutes. It’s been an amazing year so far.
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Sounds like the DPL system worked perfectly for your player. Congrats and good luck to her!

In your opinion, do you think she should have been rostered on the DA team from the start, or did she need to do some work / step up her game in order to get to the level needed?
 
27 pages of discussion for a 9 game fringe league. Not really sure how those games really make any difference compared to just about any thing else.

These closed leagues are not benefiting very many players so why have a self serving platform that really is just a gimmick for the clubs?

The boys seem to do fine without another league and there are plenty to choose anyway including local leagues like players seasonal psslu which offer good comp at the young ages.

This dpl offering reminds me of "new" coke a product nobody really asked for or liked but was pushed down commericaly in a attempt to bring in more $ since the parent was losing market share.
 
Mystery Train said:
Sounds like the DPL system worked perfectly for your player. Congrats and good luck to her!

In your opinion, do you think she should have been rostered on the DA team from the start, or did she need to do some work / step up her game in order to get to the level needed?
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It is hard to answer this question objectively without parental bias but I will try. I think it is a bit of both. She is definitely a better player than last year and the DA training environment has really allowed her to grow as a player but this all occurred after she started practicing with the DA and playing with them as a DP. She tried out for two DA teams last June but we were a bit late to the tryout process when our previous team suddenly fell apart. Both clubs essentially moved their entire ECNL teams over to the DA and they both had pretty full rosters before considering any new players. We were also moving clubs and had not previously played ECNL. I felt she belonged from Day 1 but I was aware that could just have been my parental bias working. So we took a gamble with DPL and trusted that if she was talented enough, eventually it would work out.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
We played the second place SCDSL Champions Division team to a draw and in my opinion we had better chances to win than them. I know most will not like hearing this but for 2001's DPL is more competitive that the Champions division. I think DPL is on the right track.
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For 2001s, National Cup seems to have played out just about as I would have predicted. 6 Champions teams in the Sweet 16 and 5 DPL teams. I still consider it a shame that the formation of DPL made it impossible for all or most of those 11 teams to play in the same league this season. This is what dilution looks like.

SCDSL Champions
League Rank..Team..League Points..National Cup So Far
1 Crescenta Valley SC G01..23..Sweet 16
2 CDA Slammers FC - HB G01 Elite..20..Sweet 16
3 SGV Surf G01 SB/HH..20..Sweet 16
4 So Cal Rush G01..19..2nd place group K, rd 1 (but failed to advance as wild card)
5 FC Premier 2001 - Coerver Elite..16..2nd place group J, rd 1 (but failed to advance as wild card)
6 CDA Slammers FC - Cerritos G01 Martinez..15..Sweet 16
7 South Slammers FC Elite G01..15..Sweet 16
8 CDA Slammers FC - HB G01 EGSL..10..Sweet 16
9 San Diego Soccer Club G2001 Academy Navy..8..3rd place group D, rd 1
10 Anaheim Surf Soccer Club G2001 Carrillo..7..Had a #1 rd 1 seed but forfeited
11 LA Galaxy South Bay Girls 2001 Elite..0..4th place group K

DPL
1 Legends FC DPL 2001..24..Sweet 16
2 LA Premier FC DPL 2001..18..Sweet 16
2 Real So Cal DPL 2001..16..Sweet 16
4 Beach FC DPL 2001..13..Sweet 16
5 SC del Sol DPL 2001..12..Did not compete
6 LA Galaxy DPL 2001..12..Had a bye, 3rd in group B, rd 2
7 Pateadores DPL 2001..11..Sweet 16 (managed to advance even though they earned only 3 points in the 2nd round)
8 Eagles SC DPL 2001..10..4th place group E, rd 1
9 LA Galaxy San Diego DPL 2001..5..Had a bye but forfeited
10 Albion SC DPL 2001..4..Had a bye, finished 4th in group E, rd 2
 
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