Girls Development Academy

C.A.M. said:
Last year most of the best players played ECNL. Not all. Most. This year most of the best players play DA. Not all. Most. At no time will a patch or a team you pay to be on determine who is the best team. That is determined in practice and on the field by the coaches and players. These previous comments are high majority geralizations and not all inclusive statements. Another team from another league is always capable of mopping the floor with any so called giant. Heck we beat Legends and I was expecting a 6-0 blowout for them. Stuff happens and every team matches up different.

The rules of the game dictate style. The rules of the DA make it hard for some players who were good to remain good and makes it easier to be better for others. For my daughter, the rules compliment her mentality and game play style so she is thriving, even when the team isn't. These rules make it hard for many of the players due to what they have been trained to do for years, which is play extremely direct. Old habits are hard to break. Players that have adjusted are doing well. Players that haven't are not progressing. The same will happen when they go to the college game and for those that make it, the pro game.

My kid isn't at Beach. My kids do have the BeastMode videos. They work if you work on them. I see how Beach plays and the technical ability of their teams and I am impressed. Is that because of the one day a week with David? Not completely. He will tell you it's the dedication they put into it off the field, AT HOME. That has always been his philosophy and teaching. Still, whatever they are teaching is sticking because they are way beyond everyone else in game play. They are mastering what the DA has created as curriculum. They have been on fire since late November and deserve the praise in my opinion. It is up to the rest of us to raise our levels and compete.
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We are on two different view points. And that is great, debate is good. Good for everyone. However Unless you are Dave You don’t know anything about him other than what he wants you to know. So preach on about the method and videos. Teams don’t matter, DA don’t matter. Parents opinions don’t matter. All that really matters is your own DD. My only point is this. If you or anyone ever thinks DA is the best because of its exclusive list of American soccer rules than that imo is the height of arrogance and stupidity. The DA rules that you claim are helping IMO will be the death of soccer. Soccer should not be rules predetermined by a company, or national agency or club. This might sound stupid, but DA white washes and sanitizes American soccer. You like the rules because it makes it fair, it gives a standardized criteria for players to operate. It’s fake hustle. It’s look how hard I work 4x a week. Quantity does not matter, what is the quality? Is it international quality? Well good luck to you when college arrives our DDs have to play against foreign kids who did not have rules.
 
Nutmeg said:
We are on two different view points. And that is great, debate is good. Good for everyone. However Unless you are Dave You don’t know anything about him other than what he wants you to know. So preach on about the method and videos. Teams don’t matter, DA don’t matter. Parents opinions don’t matter. All that really matters is your own DD. My only point is this. If you or anyone ever thinks DA is the best because of its exclusive list of American soccer rules than that imo is the height of arrogance and stupidity. The DA rules that you claim are helping IMO will be the death of soccer. Soccer should not be rules predetermined by a company, or national agency or club. This might sound stupid, but DA white washes and sanitizes American soccer. You like the rules because it makes it fair, it gives a standardized criteria for players to operate. It’s fake hustle. It’s look how hard I work 4x a week. Quantity does not matter, what is the quality? Is it international quality? Well good luck to you when college arrives our DDs have to play against foreign kids who did not have rules.
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Man I like the DA for what it is suppose to be for the kids. A true development environment where the coaching staff is dedicated to the players growth and are treated in a way that is representative in a manner that reflects the time, energy, dedication and purpose of this journey. No other reason.

Our family trust ourselves to have the best interests of our kids. US Soccer has the ability to change the rules and therefore the landscape of the DA at a whim. Same as all other governing bodies such as ECNL, SCSDL, MLS, NCAA, FIFA etc... Just because we participate doesn't make us naive. I grew up and athlete. I understand coaches, schools, universities, clubs, etc.... have their best interests as the focus first and the object is to get in where you fit in so you can get what you need from the system.

You are funny with the fake hustle and quality comments. That is going to be a player by player and club by club determination that has nothing to do with what league a club belongs to and you damn well know it. It doesn't stop in youth soccer either. That's all the way to the international level around the globe. The DA isn't OVERTLY demanding all leagues play with the curriculum it has set out. By the age banding they have set up next year and not giving the 03 and 02 age groups their own groups they clearly aren't attempting to grab each and every player. There is plenty of room for different styles of futbol to be played and put on display across this wonderfully large and diverse country we reside in.
 
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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Neither IMHO. Club soccer has been doing this for years so nothing new here. Stacking teams, borrowing players, etc., is just part of the landscape good, bad or indifferent.
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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Until the DA creates a viable ultra competitive solution for top players who want or have to play high school or girls who aren't on teams due to the age grouping (teams are usually older player heavy), ECNL will thrive. It has a proven format which people are attached to.
 
C.A.M. said:
Until the DA creates a viable ultra competitive solution for top players who want or have to play high school or girls who aren't on teams due to the age grouping (teams are usually older player heavy), ECNL will thrive. It has a proven format which people are attached to.
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Fake news...

2017/2018 GDA Facts (FT player stats) to date:
U16/17: 48% 2002+/52% 2001 (almost even)
U16/17: 48 min APT 2002+/47 min APT 2001 (wow - younger players average more play time)

U18/19: 78% 2000+/22% 1999 (younger player heavy)
U18/19: 47 min APT 2000+/ 46 min APT 1999 (again, younger players average more play time)

If I add DP players into the mix you will be even more wrong.
 
GoWest said:
Neither IMHO. Club soccer has been doing this for years so nothing new here. Stacking teams, borrowing players, etc., is just part of the landscape good, bad or indifferent.
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I think ECNL should do the same as DA - players cannot play down to another league (SCDSL/Prez/Nat'l Cup).
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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What age group is this happening?
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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??? DA players can not play ECNL. ??? Do you mean for next year, DA players moving to ECNL?
 
ECNL and DA cannot play back and forth or "guest" back and forth but there is nothing preventing a player from leaving one league to be rostered on the other.
 
LadiesMan217 said:
Fake news...

2017/2018 GDA Facts (FT player stats) to date:
U16/17: 48% 2002+/52% 2001 (almost even)
U16/17: 48 min APT 2002+/47 min APT 2001 (wow - younger players average more play time)

U18/19: 78% 2000+/22% 1999 (younger player heavy)
U18/19: 47 min APT 2000+/ 46 min APT 1999 (again, younger players average more play time)

If I add DP players into the mix you will be even more wrong.
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Interesting numbers and I'm not arguing against them although they seem to differ from what I'm looking at on the DA roster sites for the limited teams I've looked at. So here are my questions?

1. Where did your information come from?
2. Is it based on all the Academies nationwide?
3. Is that the trend we are seeing here in So Cal? (I don't believe it is)
 
C.A.M. said:
Interesting numbers and I'm not arguing against them although they seem to differ from what I'm looking at on the DA roster sites for the limited teams I've looked at. So here are my questions?

1. Where did your information come from?
2. Is it based on all the Academies nationwide?
3. Is that the trend we are seeing here in So Cal? (I don't believe it is)
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1. US Soccer
2. Yes
3. Yes for all stats I provided except U-16/17 is older age heavy ;) 68%
 
LadiesMan217 said:
1. US Soccer
2. Yes
3. Yes for all stats I provided except U-16/17 is older age heavy ;) 68%
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Are you trying to suggest that So Cal DA rosters are mostly age-balanced by pointing to:

1) U16/17, an age group where 2001's take up 68% of the spots, and
2) U18/19, an age group where most '99s have graduated already?
 
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SocalPapa said:
Are you trying to suggest that So Cal DA rosters are mostly age-balanced by pointing to:

1) U16/17, an age group where 2001's take up 68% of the spots, and
2) U18/19, an age group where most '99s have graduated already?
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Yes would be the answer. I'm sure the numbers are even higher when we isolate So Cal, which is my concern. The 03's are going to have serious decisions on which league to play in if they don't make the DA group.
 
Futbol Fan said:
Bumping this post: tough to juggle ECNL and DA programs with quality. ECNL has put the pressure on clubs to not field subpar teams while having a DA program. WCFC/OC Surf loading up ECNL teams, pulling players from the DA teams...I guess DA is not their priority! Poor Ethics or desperate?
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What DA age group are they pulling players from? That means they have quit DA mid season since they can not play in another league.
 
C.A.M. said:
Yes would be the answer. I'm sure the numbers are even higher when we isolate So Cal, which is my concern. The 03's are going to have serious decisions on which league to play in if they don't make the DA group.
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This is isolating SoCal. LAFC, Beach, and Blues all follow the national trend. LAG (both), Surf, West Coast, Eagles are worse offenders (call them an ask them what's up). Again this is based on FT players. There suspected factors for the age heavy DA in SoCal are some clubs focusing on ECNL at lower age in bracket and DPL.
 
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