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*GOBEARGO*
PREMIER
When CNN Refuses To Cover A Democratic Scandal
Media | Peter Hasson
Why are they keeping their audience in the dark
Do you hear that?...crickets. Not one of these anti-ism folk here has said a word about this...wonder why?
Is this a game, to play tit-for-tat on Steve Bannon and Sebastian Gorkha, who were actually in Trump’s White House? Or on Trump’s quote about “both sides.” Nice try.
Sheriff Joe
DA
They are just BBQing their own nuts. They just didn't learn anything from Nov 8.
*GOBEARGO*
PREMIER
Not sure what your post was trying to convey...read the link and get back to us...you'd be the first of your ilk to do so.
One would expect someone with a law degree to understand and appreciate the first amendment.
Both sides indeed....
The Free Speech-Hate Speech Trade-Off
“Controversies over freedom of speech on college campuses have existed as long as there have been college campuses. But the specific issues vary with each generation.”
That is the first line of Erwin Chemerinsky’s new book, “Free Speech on Campus,” written with Howard Gillman. Mr. Chemerinsky is not only one of the foremost legal scholars on the First Amendment but also a firsthand witness to the free speech debates of today as the new dean of the University of California Berkeley School of Law.
Erwin Chemerinsky:
I think we have to be attentive to the fact that many students want to restrict speech because of very laudable instincts. They want to protect other students from hate speech. They want to create an inclusive community for all. But the response to hate speech can’t be to prohibit and punish it. It’s unconstitutional. We have to find other ways to create inclusive communities.
The law under the First Amendment is clear: Hate speech is protected speech. Over 300 colleges and universities adopted hate speech codes in the early 1990s. Every one to be challenged in court was ruled unconstitutional. And there are good reasons for that.
After some really ugly incidents at the University of Michigan in the late 1980s, the school adopted a hate speech code that was undoubtedly well intentioned. But a federal court declared it unconstitutional, in part, because it was so vague. It said that there could not be speech that “demeans or stigmatizes” anyone based on race or gender. But what does that mean? A sociobiology student who challenged the law said, “I want to study whether there are inherent differences between women and men. What if my conclusions are deemed stigmatizing on the basis of gender?” And during the years Michigan’s speech code was on the books, more than 20 black students were charged with racist speech by white students. There wasn’t a single instance of a white student being punished for racist speech, even though that was what had prompted the drafting of the Michigan speech code in the first place.
That’s part of a much bigger historical pattern: As we saw in Michigan, when hate speech codes or laws are adopted, they are most often directed at the very groups they are meant to protect.
I think it’s so important for campus officials to respond to and condemn hate speech. Just because the First Amendment protects a right to say something, that doesn’t mean it should be said.
Campus officials can describe the type of community they want to create and denounce hate speech as inconsistent with it. Many years ago, when I was teaching at the University of Southern California Law School, someone wrote a very offensive homophobic slur on a chalkboard. The dean did not try to find out who did it or threaten punishment. Instead, he wrote a very powerful statement about why what happened was inconsistent with the community we aspired to be. His message had an enormously positive effect.
Also, it is very important that the students themselves respond to offensive speech. They can hold counter-demonstrations, teach-ins and protests. All of that is protected speech. They just can’t protest in a way that interferes with the ability of others to speak.
The law is clear that even in places that are open to speech, there can be time, place and manner restrictions, so long as there are adequate places for free speech. There is a right to speak on the campus, but there is no right to come into my classroom and shout me down. There is a right to use public streets and sidewalks, but a city can prevent trucks with sound amplification equipment from playing music in the middle of the night. Dormitories are also a very special place of repose for students. It’s their home, and the Supreme Court has recognized the protection of privacy of people in their homes. So there can be much greater restrictions in dormitories — but it always has to be content neutral. It can’t be based on content or message.
The central principle of the First Amendment — and of academic freedom — is that all ideas and views can be expressed. Sometimes they are ideas and views that we might consider noble, that advance equality. Sometimes they might be ideas that we abhor. But there is no way to empower a government or campus administration to restrict speech without allowing for the possibility that tomorrow, it will be our speech that is restricted.
Entire article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/berkeley-dean-erwin-chemerinsky.html
Both sides indeed....
The Free Speech-Hate Speech Trade-Off
“Controversies over freedom of speech on college campuses have existed as long as there have been college campuses. But the specific issues vary with each generation.”
That is the first line of Erwin Chemerinsky’s new book, “Free Speech on Campus,” written with Howard Gillman. Mr. Chemerinsky is not only one of the foremost legal scholars on the First Amendment but also a firsthand witness to the free speech debates of today as the new dean of the University of California Berkeley School of Law.
Erwin Chemerinsky:
I think we have to be attentive to the fact that many students want to restrict speech because of very laudable instincts. They want to protect other students from hate speech. They want to create an inclusive community for all. But the response to hate speech can’t be to prohibit and punish it. It’s unconstitutional. We have to find other ways to create inclusive communities.
The law under the First Amendment is clear: Hate speech is protected speech. Over 300 colleges and universities adopted hate speech codes in the early 1990s. Every one to be challenged in court was ruled unconstitutional. And there are good reasons for that.
After some really ugly incidents at the University of Michigan in the late 1980s, the school adopted a hate speech code that was undoubtedly well intentioned. But a federal court declared it unconstitutional, in part, because it was so vague. It said that there could not be speech that “demeans or stigmatizes” anyone based on race or gender. But what does that mean? A sociobiology student who challenged the law said, “I want to study whether there are inherent differences between women and men. What if my conclusions are deemed stigmatizing on the basis of gender?” And during the years Michigan’s speech code was on the books, more than 20 black students were charged with racist speech by white students. There wasn’t a single instance of a white student being punished for racist speech, even though that was what had prompted the drafting of the Michigan speech code in the first place.
That’s part of a much bigger historical pattern: As we saw in Michigan, when hate speech codes or laws are adopted, they are most often directed at the very groups they are meant to protect.
I think it’s so important for campus officials to respond to and condemn hate speech. Just because the First Amendment protects a right to say something, that doesn’t mean it should be said.
Campus officials can describe the type of community they want to create and denounce hate speech as inconsistent with it. Many years ago, when I was teaching at the University of Southern California Law School, someone wrote a very offensive homophobic slur on a chalkboard. The dean did not try to find out who did it or threaten punishment. Instead, he wrote a very powerful statement about why what happened was inconsistent with the community we aspired to be. His message had an enormously positive effect.
Also, it is very important that the students themselves respond to offensive speech. They can hold counter-demonstrations, teach-ins and protests. All of that is protected speech. They just can’t protest in a way that interferes with the ability of others to speak.
The law is clear that even in places that are open to speech, there can be time, place and manner restrictions, so long as there are adequate places for free speech. There is a right to speak on the campus, but there is no right to come into my classroom and shout me down. There is a right to use public streets and sidewalks, but a city can prevent trucks with sound amplification equipment from playing music in the middle of the night. Dormitories are also a very special place of repose for students. It’s their home, and the Supreme Court has recognized the protection of privacy of people in their homes. So there can be much greater restrictions in dormitories — but it always has to be content neutral. It can’t be based on content or message.
The central principle of the First Amendment — and of academic freedom — is that all ideas and views can be expressed. Sometimes they are ideas and views that we might consider noble, that advance equality. Sometimes they might be ideas that we abhor. But there is no way to empower a government or campus administration to restrict speech without allowing for the possibility that tomorrow, it will be our speech that is restricted.
Entire article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/opinion/berkeley-dean-erwin-chemerinsky.html
No Asshole....Louis Farrakhan is an enemy of the State operating with
complete freedom within the United States....
As RACIST as they come !!!!
Your low IQ " Home Girl " Maxine Waters fawns over the POS ....Just Look !
Feb 18, 2018
And just as GBG posted this is another horrendous scandal that should be
all over the NEWS....
The whole Democratic Party is Filthy Rotten to The Core !!
Sheriff Joe
DA
Libs are in such a hurry to impress us with their brilliance they don't have time to read anything us bitter clingers have to say.
Who needs to read when your side have the wit and wisdom of Daffy fuckin' Duck?
Hüsker Dü
DA
Your insecurity is showing it's ugly head once again . . . you nutters sure make a habit of that.Who needs to read when your side have the wit and wisdom of Daffy fuckin' Duck?
Talking out your dumbass again Duck...you certainly make a habit of that.
If I was anymore confident. I'd be defying gravity....
Sheriff Joe
DA
Too funny,
Doesn't ICE have guns or clubs?
TheBlaze
Media vilify Border Patrol over viral video of one mom’s arrest — but ignore why she was arrested
21 hours ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AlYQqUMISTAJ&usg=AOvVaw1bzRMEFPu5JfxCMj1_euWe
Doesn't ICE have guns or clubs?
TheBlaze
Media vilify Border Patrol over viral video of one mom’s arrest — but ignore why she was arrested
21 hours ago
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AlYQqUMISTAJ&usg=AOvVaw1bzRMEFPu5JfxCMj1_euWe
Sheriff Joe
DA
Sheriff Joe
DA
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
Governor Brown writes letter to President Trump day before visit to California
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Gov. Jerry Brown is inviting President Donald Trump to come to California's Central Valley while he is in the state to view border wall prototypes this week.
AP
Monday, March 12, 2018 09:35AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. --
Gov. Jerry Brown is inviting President Donald Trump to come to California's Central Valley while he is in the state to view border wall prototypes this week.
Brown extended the invitation Monday in a letter saying the president should see the state's high-speed rail construction project.
Jerry BrownVerified account @JerryBrownGov Mar 12
Dear @realDonaldTrump...
pic.twitter.com/ZBCXZCEfzP
6:00 AM - 12 Mar 2018
The governor says California is focusing on bridges, not walls, and adds that the project has put 1,700 people to work.
Brown's letter also cites the importance of the Golden State's economy and visits by previous presidents.
RELATED: White House confirms President Donald Trump coming to California
Trump is expected to arrive Tuesday for his first visit to California as president.
Trump's arrival will come just days after his Justice Department sued to block state laws designed to protect people living in the U.S. illegally. Brown likened it to "an act of war."
Governor Brown writes letter to President Trump day before visit to California
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Gov. Jerry Brown is inviting President Donald Trump to come to California's Central Valley while he is in the state to view border wall prototypes this week.
AP
Monday, March 12, 2018 09:35AM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. --
Gov. Jerry Brown is inviting President Donald Trump to come to California's Central Valley while he is in the state to view border wall prototypes this week.
Brown extended the invitation Monday in a letter saying the president should see the state's high-speed rail construction project.
Jerry BrownVerified account @JerryBrownGov Mar 12
Dear @realDonaldTrump...
6:00 AM - 12 Mar 2018
The governor says California is focusing on bridges, not walls, and adds that the project has put 1,700 people to work.
Brown's letter also cites the importance of the Golden State's economy and visits by previous presidents.
RELATED: White House confirms President Donald Trump coming to California
Trump is expected to arrive Tuesday for his first visit to California as president.
Trump's arrival will come just days after his Justice Department sued to block state laws designed to protect people living in the U.S. illegally. Brown likened it to "an act of war."
I have no insecurity when it comes to dealing with you duck....the only ugly head you see is that hideous duck face staring back in the mirror....quack!
Sheriff Joe
DA
You have got to be kidding, you people have been pissing your pants for the last year and a half, lying your asses off to oust a sitting president, duly elected by US citizens, take note, it might just be the last election where illegals can't vote.
Enjoy it.
Coocoo.
He means it, though. They're insane with fear. A right-y friend of mine belongs to a private beach club in Santa Monica and they literally sat around, after Obama opened relations with Cuba, and discussed how we are going to put Cubans on Obamacare. That's the type of shit the nutters think about...the rich ones and the not-so-rich ones.
We have illegal immigrants receiving health care now. Why would we discriminate against Cubans?