Membership Applications for 2018-2019
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Congrats to VC Fusion/BF310 for getting U12 DA for Oxnard area! Congrats to TFA, LA Premier, Chula Vista, OC Surf (West Coast FC), LA Galaxy SD, Murrieta Surf, Legends FC, San Diego SC for getting expansion! Will see how will this work this fall for U13 in terms of organization, new division or same traveling to SD or OC for one match only...
Futbolgolden
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Congratulations to all teams expanding and new. Any news on clubs partnering up with others. Example VC Fusion/BF310?
All these just rumours?
All these just rumours?
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BRONZE
Devil's advocate....
While there are some deserving clubs (ex: TFA), I don't really understand the expansion. These age groups have some very poor performing teams. If development is the goal, competition is a key element. Currently, my son plays a meaningful game about every 3rd week. Many of these games are total blowouts. I don't mind driving anywhere for a game...my issue is driving a long ways for bad game. The DA should re-assess - remove teams/clubs that under perform or are placed poorly due to location. Delayed expansion would be great...there is obviously not enough talent/coaches/structure/commitment to produce competitive teams as it is...(check standings from other socal threads). The level of competition is pretty bad. My fear is that this expansion continues to dilute the competition.
While there are some deserving clubs (ex: TFA), I don't really understand the expansion. These age groups have some very poor performing teams. If development is the goal, competition is a key element. Currently, my son plays a meaningful game about every 3rd week. Many of these games are total blowouts. I don't mind driving anywhere for a game...my issue is driving a long ways for bad game. The DA should re-assess - remove teams/clubs that under perform or are placed poorly due to location. Delayed expansion would be great...there is obviously not enough talent/coaches/structure/commitment to produce competitive teams as it is...(check standings from other socal threads). The level of competition is pretty bad. My fear is that this expansion continues to dilute the competition.
It used to be this way, but they've changed it.
Its not about the US Soccer criteria (for DA clubs), mostly its about infrastructure and money! How can you otherwise explain Fusion (BF310) getting that u12, apparently to be located in Oxnard? Of what, 20 So Cal DA clubs, how many really have majority of their coaches with A or B license, good fields, specific recognizable playing philosophy, history of winning major regional/national tourneys or producing impact college/national team players? My guess maybe 5-8...
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No hating, but what a waste. Fusion hasn’t had any good boys teams and BF310 is a relatively new club and Brad Friedel left BF310. I don’t see them pulling any kids from Oxnard. What a joke!
Where is the cash being massed from? Most of the DA teams are free. Also, I'm curious what you're disappointed with. What would you like to have seen happen?
I’ll take this one.
Very few DA programs are free. So it’s a marketing ploy for those pseudo-academy clubs to recruit average players, put a DA badge on the jersey, and appear relevant. Raise fees across the club and/or increase teams with the lure of playing DA within that club if a player is deemed worthy.
Disappointed with the continued dilution of the talent pool in SoCal. The better teams with the better players can’t get a competetive game most weeks. Look at the records across most age groups and it’s a case of the haves and the have-nots. DA was set up to provide the most competetive training and game environment in order to scout, ID, and develope talent for the highest levels of play in the country. Without consistently competetive games, players with elite potential will under-develop.
Ideally, there would be contraction, not expansion. Consolidate the talent into fewer teams, which would lead to more competetive, more meaningful games.
Golden State is also funded and LA Premier announced that they will be funded next year. I don't know about the rest.
Sure, but that money doesn't go to US soccer.
I hear what you're saying, but wouldn't that mean that, in LA at least, the same 4 teams would play each other over and over? Or else they'd have to travel farther and farther to find games?
Yes, and I see no problem with that. Better to play a good team 4 times a season and be challenged, than what is currently happening. I think you can pare the league (2004s for example) down to 5-6 teams. The better players on those lesser teams cut will gravitate to those remaining.
I totally disagree, playing each team 3 times is bad enough, 4 would be even worse. The kids would get bored playing the same team over and over again and thus the challenge is gone. Every league has its good teams and bad, including the professional leagues EPL, La Liga, etc. The diversity in each teams style of play is the challenge and the good teams need to find the key to unlock it each week . For the good teams their challenge is to stay consistent and not fall in to the style of play of the weaker team. The challenge for the weaker team is to compete and raise their level of play.
Each game presents a development opportunity no matter if the score is 1-1, 1-0 or 7-0, it should be up to the coach to identify that development opportunity and coach accordingly.
LA Premier DA is going to be fully funded? Are you sure? I'd be very pleasantly surprised. Can anyone confirm that? Bumpy start for them this season with Boys U12 DA. Maybe they want to recruit some boys over?
Playing lower competition is bad on so many levels... the speed of play, decision making, forming bad habits, the list of reasons goes on and on. Not sure what anybody gains when you haven’t won a game, only scored 5 goals or so all year, and your GD is way over 50??
One day, maybe there will be enough talent to support this many teams, right now there isn’t. So it will slow the development of the better players, mediocre teams will get to wear the DA patch, parents are happy, clubs can brag, everyone gets a trophy, etc. in the end we will have a mediocre DA league dominated by a few.
And.... to mention La Liga or the EPL makes no sense. My guess is that the players on Barca are already developed. Those leagues are about money and winning. No comparison.