Can’t bite on the Magoo mush.....poor old bird doesn’t have anything better to do other than change his Depends.
Now that's a lie just like JaP would post.
Can’t bite on the Magoo mush.....poor old bird doesn’t have anything better to do other than change his Depends.
Sounds very similar to ECNL. Except you could play high school soccer and other sports. And most of the talent was concentrated in one place. Now that is very much not the case. Just doing the math you are talking a couple of elite players per team and the rest are good players but nothing that you would have to travel to see. I'm sure that the US soccer people enjoyed the trip. We will see how many "NEW" invites come out of this scouting and/or how many "technical staff" recommendations arise. I have my theory on what will come of this.
Good luck to you and your player.
It would have been helpful if you just said that upfront.My question was aimed at someone concerned what to do about unplayed games in a league that supposedly doesn't care about win-loss records.
Never happened. There was the case of a so-called "$600 toilet seat", but it turned out to be not just a seat but a complete toilet including seat, flush-water tank and holding tank, engineered to fit a particular aircraft. But continue with your rants - I find them amusing.
(And don't forget to hit the "Dumb" button on your way out.)
Having spent time in the distant past consulting a defense company concerning their inventory accounting system, while I never saw a $600 toilet, I can confirm that there was a simple tool available for less than $20 at your local hardware store that cost the company and the US Government several hundred dollars each due to procurement rules, contract terms and politics. The company would have far preferred to buy the tool from Sears (pre-Home Depot) than make it.
As a metaphor, the $600 toilet was, unfortunately, accurate.
45 USYNT staff? So you are saying around 10 coaches/scouts per age group?
US Soccer needs to take a close look at where they are spending their money, if that is true.[/QUOTE
With 78 teams per age group, 10 per age group is not a lot, and there were at the least 50-60 college scouts at each game, with the exception of the last game which maybe had 12-15.
The couple of DOCs who I have talked to never believed the combined age group would last very long. I suspect outside of the pilot divisions next year would be the last year of the combined U15/16 age group.
The U18/19 would remain combined to account for trapped seniors.[/QUOTE
It's fair that you're a champion for the ECNL and I can certainly respect your stance at the moment. And there's no arguing that the ability to play other sports (not necessarily HS soccer) is great for the girls, and that before GDA, talent was more concentrated. But there has to be a bit of trepidation building up over there right?
Have there been any recent ECNL events that drew 415 college coaches, let alone 45 YNT staff? I heard that the ECNL events this year (AZ + FL) are averaging around 250 coaches attending with the Fall Phoenix event garnering somewhere in the 100s. I understand that is still good exposure but how long will this last considering that 415 attended the weakest GDA Showcase of the year and that budgets are tight for those guys? Not to mention, a few college coaches that attended the Fall ECNL event in Phoenix I spoke with at Silverlakes each mentioned that they were astounded at the drop off in talent they witnessed there. Furthermore, we were recently told directly from our regional US Soccer representative that going forward, scouting for the MTCs, as well as the invitations extended would be done exclusively within GDA. While it makes a lot of sense in my area, I understand that it isn't as logical in some areas (NoCal, Vegas, etc). My guess is that it is a power play to force the hands of many more top clubs, in hopes of squelching the logistical excuses many have to not participate.
Interested to hear the theory you mentioned you have --
Good luck to you and your player.
It is my understanding that a forfeit usually only always one goal to opposing team. In this case beBurlingame causeIf by "travel to away games" they mean "travel to play games in So Cal," then I think it would only be 2 games per team that will be cancelled. Since the odds of their winning those games were so slim in the first place, simply recording those games as forfeits would seem reasonable.
If by "travel to away games" they mean "travel to play games in So Cal," then I think it would only be 2 games per team that will be cancelled. Since the odds of their winning those games were so slim in the first place, simply recording those games as forfeits would seem reasonable.
It's fair that you're a champion for the ECNL and I can certainly respect your stance at the moment. And there's no arguing that the ability to play other sports (not necessarily HS soccer) is great for the girls, and that before GDA, talent was more concentrated. But there has to be a bit of trepidation building up over there right?
Have there been any recent ECNL events that drew 415 college coaches, let alone 45 YNT staff? I heard that the ECNL events this year (AZ + FL) are averaging around 250 coaches attending with the Fall Phoenix event garnering somewhere in the 100s. I understand that is still good exposure but how long will this last considering that 415 attended the weakest GDA Showcase of the year and that budgets are tight for those guys? Not to mention, a few college coaches that attended the Fall ECNL event in Phoenix I spoke with at Silverlakes each mentioned that they were astounded at the drop off in talent they witnessed there. Furthermore, we were recently told directly from our regional US Soccer representative that going forward, scouting for the MTCs, as well as the invitations extended would be done exclusively within GDA. While it makes a lot of sense in my area, I understand that it isn't as logical in some areas (NoCal, Vegas, etc). My guess is that it is a power play to force the hands of many more top clubs, in hopes of squelching the logistical excuses many have to not participate.
Interested to hear the theory you mentioned you have --
Good luck to you and your player.
Why do I keep reading on here that US Soccer does not allow GDA player to play high school soccer or other sports? And please stop saying there is not a drop off in talent in ECNL - that is just total stupidity.
Any top 3 ECNL team in So Cal could contend with the top 3 DA team in the same age group. Trust that! Many of them scrimmage regularly and there are no blowouts at the top levels. That's not a secret. Any others, feel free to chime in.
So that means there was not a drop in talent in ECNL? Nice try.
It also means that DA is not "ALL THAT". Complete dilution. That's a fact, at least in So Cal. I don't need to try, it's a fact!
So dilution caused DA and ECNL to have a drop in talent - so we agree. Move on.
Have you ever been to an ECNL showcase? Seriously there were 60+ coaches watching the 2002 games at the fall showcase in Phoenix . It’s certainly not a drop off in talent but more of a dilution of it ACROSS the board. This is what I have heard from my college connects. They also mentioned that the dual age groups makes recruiting a little bit more challenging . We all saw a lot of the 02s stay in ECNL this season for recruiting purposes and to continuing playing HS or outside sports. Curious to see what the 03s do? Do you risk being at the bottom of the totem pole during your prime recruiting year? If they wanted it to be single age band ,they would have just rolled it up and left it in tact.
As many others have said, regardless of what’s said about GDA will be the only avenue of recruiting for the TC... that’s simply foolish and everyone knows it. We know they will go to Timbuktu and there’s no DA there either.
As for the numbers you saw, it was the first showcase and people were curious including the college coaches , and yes ECNL has still been attracting the crowds. I just need the three colleges that my player wants to show up, to show up.
Yep, that's how forfeits work in just about every tournament/league. The compromise is they give you the win without playing, but only give you credit for one goal.All games should be voided as a previous poster noted. Goals against, goals for, etc. should be eliminated. A forfeit usually only allows one goal for the opponent, this would unfairly penalize those who are scheduled to play them.
Having worked in the industry for the last 33 years as an ME that would be one cheap toilet. If it was as Espola described I would say multiply by magnitude of 100 if design time, manufacturing time, procurement etc is included let alone number of units. I find it intriguing watching movies such as Star Trek and skipping over the technology issues and just imagining from an engineering perspective what it would cost to put a space port in orbit and build something like the Enterprise. It would surpass the GNP of the Earth. Yeah I know I'm a geek sorry to diverge!
There is a difference between girls DA showcase events and league play. League standings determine participation in playoffs and, ultimately, the opportunity to claim a DA championship. The decision of how to treat the games Burlingame will and will not play will directly affect some So Cal DA teams in that regard.My question was aimed at someone concerned what to do about unplayed games in a league that supposedly doesn't care about win-loss records.
Why do I keep reading on here that US Soccer does not allow GDA player to play high school soccer or other sports? And please stop saying there is not a drop off in talent in ECNL - that is just total stupidity.