Coach Movement and 2018 Assignments

chargerfan said:
I am waiting for details about Shannon because this is not a rumor that has been spreading within the Sharks community. It is being kept a secret from parents, if this is happening. Not a peep about this within the club. Shannon is a nice person, and one I don’t really would fit in at Surf.

Monkey, why do you think Spooner going to Albion is bad news?
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Shannon had many options this year. I don't think she will last long unless she can become a yes girl. The same incestual leadership is in place and runs the show for their families benefit. The only way this will work is if they become so busy with their affiliates and counting their money from tournaments and field fees that they have no time left to control her.

Spooner could be a top coach if given the freedom to pick his team and be creative. Other than a pay raise he is just trading one whipping boy situation for another. Plus Albion has grown too large just for Ginns to control everything but he refuses to give up the power and so the club philosophy and training is really disorganized. At least at Surf this was not the case.
 
Soccer said:
Would that news be the rumor Shannon Macmillan is headed to Surf to be the girls DOC. Spooner to Albion. Shannon will not coach a team.

Or is it something else?
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Monkey said:
Shannon had many options this year. I don't think she will last long unless she can become a yes girl. The same incestual leadership is in place and runs the show for their families benefit. The only way this will work is if they become so busy with their affiliates and counting their money from tournaments and field fees that they have no time left to control her.

Spooner could be a top coach if given the freedom to pick his team and be creative. Other than a pay raise he is just trading one whipping boy situation for another. Plus Albion has grown too large just for Ginns to control everything but he refuses to give up the power and so the club philosophy and training is really disorganized. At least at Surf this was not the case.
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What incestual relationships are left at Surf. Seems like so much change over the last few years. Is there something above the coaches and DOCs that drives the org? This seems like a problem in SD. The picture painted is grim from you all.
 
OBkicks said:
If you have an opinion or a question regarding a topic, post it. Isn’t that what these forums are about? Why do we resort to name calling and insults, and being obnoxious and arrogant? Why is it grounds for elitism if someone is ignorant, or asks questions, or simply doesn’t know? Inform them. If you are not sure of something you heard, or may think is simply a rumor, say so. You are not bound by anything other then your own morals. Hopefully, and especially in today’s day and age, that means something. Stop making more out of this then it is. When you do, perhaps you become part of the problem as well. It’s a Q & A forum. This is OUR community. Share and be respectful or maybe just get off. I’ll be doing that right now. Happy New year to you all. I hope your children land safely and have a wonderful season. Let them enjoy it.
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I agree. This form is exactly the place to talk about concerns regarding clubs or coaches. That’s what a community is all about. Most of us understand that individual parents may have grievances with individual clubs or coaches and that may motivate their posts but overall more good can come from sharing information than bad. You cant always discuss concerns with parents on your team or rlse you risk becoming “that parent.” Thanks to those posters who have been specific here. It’s a public service.
 
Monkey said:
Spooner could be a top coach if given the freedom to pick his team and be creative. Other than a pay raise he is just trading one whipping boy situation for another. Plus Albion has grown too large just for Ginns to control everything but he refuses to give up the power and so the club philosophy and training is really disorganized. At least at Surf this was not the case.
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I’m curious what you mean by that? Are you saying coaches don’t actually get to pick their teams? Maybe I’m a little green...
 
TCD said:
I would literally fall over stunned if Shannon went to Surf. Seems to go against everything she seems to stand for. I can't believe this rumor has any real merit. I know there have been murmurings of Sharks and Surf merging but I would be absolutely gobsmacked if Shannon left Sharks in the 11th hour one week before tryouts.
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Verrry interesting. Chargerfan and Striker17...hurry delete all your posts bashing Surf. Hurry and buy your fan gear on soccer.com. How will you fit in at Surf?
 
CopaMundial said:
And who might these "qualified" coaches be? Enlighten us simple parents, please.
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As a referee (and former coach and player), I have to work with San Diego and So Cal coaches almost every weekend. There are some outstanding coaches in SD county and most of those do not work for Surf or Albion. There are several college coaches that also coach club teams mostly at smaller clubs. IMHO the best coaches in SD county are not at Surf or Albion, but spread out throughout the county at SDSC, Notts, SD United, Riptide, Sporting, Mustangs, OVC, Nado, Carlsbad, and Scripps. Most of those coaches prefer the smaller clubs because it gives them more leeway to do other things such as coach college, raise a family, teach, or run their own business. I have a good friend that holds an A coaching license, played MLS, asst coached MLS, college coach, but owns his own business so he only has time to coach one B10 team. Those boys get far better coaching with my friend than they would get at any of the big name clubs.
 
fantasyfutbol said:
Verrry interesting. Chargerfan and Striker17...hurry delete all your posts bashing Surf. Hurry and buy your fan gear on soccer.com. How will you fit in at Surf?
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Thankfully the rumor of a merger has never been anything more than a rumor.

What does the club gain from merging with a watered-down surf brand? Would they bring over their pay to play policy? Parents in charge who know nothing about soccer? Or out of the mouth who knows the club inside and out, “management is motivated by one thing... the almighty dollar”. No thanks!
 
TCD said:
I would literally fall over stunned if Shannon went to Surf. Seems to go against everything she seems to stand for. I can't believe this rumor has any real merit. I know there have been murmurings of Sharks and Surf merging but I would be absolutely gobsmacked if Shannon left Sharks in the 11th hour one week before tryouts.
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Indeed - what would be the advantage for Sharks?
 
chargerfan said:
Thankfully the rumor of a merger has never been anything more than a rumor.

What does the club gain from merging with a watered-down surf brand? Would they bring over their pay to play policy? Parents in charge who know nothing about soccer? Or out of the mouth who knows the club inside and out, “management is motivated by one thing... the almighty dollar”. No thanks!
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Good question...ask the club formerly known as West Coast FC.
 
meatsweats said:
What incestual relationships are left at Surf. Seems like so much change over the last few years. Is there something above the coaches and DOCs that drives the org? This seems like a problem in SD. The picture painted is grim from you all.
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This probably refers to the Board which over the last few years now includes a group of parents that know nothing about soccer and have dds on the 03 and 04 top teams. The only thing they are interested in is advancing the kids and milking the rest of San Diego. I believe since they took over fees have increased over 30%, the kit is no longer included and everyone INCLUDING coaches are required to sell raffle tickets.

Eventhough I thought CC was a lazy coach he was an ok DOC but he had no chance once the new Board was in place.
 
Someone on the board at SDSC told me that SurfSD and Sharks were merging, straight from the mouth of Brian Quinn. Not judging it true or not, just reporting what I was told.
 
espola said:
Is this is a way for Surf to get teams back into Presidio?
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chargerfan said:
I am waiting for details about Shannon because this is not a rumor that has been spreading within the Sharks community. It is being kept a secret from parents, if this is happening. Not a peep about this within the club. Shannon is a nice person, and one I don’t really would fit in at Surf.

Monkey, why do you think Spooner going to Albion is bad news?
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Its being kept a secret from parents? That would assume they care about your opinion. That is not a slam on you or the Sharks but lets keep it real. Clubs are going to do what they do and the absolute last people to know will be the parents. Especially U-medium parents. Its just club soccer and at the U-medium age who cares as long as they are having fun. Its not that serious.

Shannon joining Surf might be to improve the dymanucs there and by injecting a good person into the Surf system improving youth soccer in San Diego for all clubs. Think positive people!
 
espola said:
Is this is a way for Surf to get teams back into Presidio?
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Shannon joins the soccer city team in 2017. Shannon and the Sharks merge with Surf in 2018. Soccercity is approved in 2018. SoccerCity and Surf merge in 2019 with all the right people already in the right places with the MLS team being named Surf.

The earth is flat.

One of these two statements will be proven to be true. Which one will it be?
 
seesnake said:
Someone on the board at SDSC told me that SurfSD and Sharks were merging, straight from the mouth of Brian Quinn. Not judging it true or not, just reporting what I was told.
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This is one of those rumors that has been around since June. They supposedly asked SDSC and Sharks before West Coast according to rumor and both said no, again rumor. I was surprised to hear SDSC was a no because I thought it would be a great fit. Sharks has always had more of a community engagement feel to it and that is not Surf.
I don't think it's to join Presidio I think it's to take over the entire league or start something else. What does Surf need Presidio for? Not much. Presidio said no to them so i would go start something new if i was them! If you have Surf and Sharks you run San Diego. These guys are thinking big in every way now.
Surf is in a different mode now- they are rivaling Albion with business deals and acquisitions. I don't think we will be looking at the same club and with the departure of their long time Admin people it seems even more so.
The model of club soccer is absolutely changing- add GPS Bayern into the mix and what they want to do as well.
The only shame in all of this to me is that I hope that people are told this in Jan before they plop money down instead of July. I can't see the Sharks deal happening but if they didn't announce it until July I think that would be a massive disservice to Sharks families.
 
espola said:
Is this is a way for Surf to get teams back into Presidio?
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Each club is voted on yearly however, the existing members are generally voted on in a group. Someone could make a motion to exclude Sharks from the vote and vote on them separately. The existing board at Surf is the group that claimed that the rest of San Diego was not good enough for them. Although I know a lot of the younger teams and lower level teams would be served well by playing in Presidio, this would be the death of many clubs in San Diego and thus less choices for the consumer.
 
fantasyfutbol said:
Shannon joins the soccer city team in 2017. Shannon and the Sharks merge with Surf in 2018. Soccercity is approved in 2018. SoccerCity and Surf merge in 2019 with all the right people already in the right places with the MLS team being named Surf.

The earth is flat.

One of these two statements will be proven to be true. Which one will it be?
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Soccercity is being overwhelmed by SDSU West among the people that matter - the voters of San Diego.
 
Fact said:
@Striker might be right about Surf starting their own league. It will happen soon with their own Spring Leauge.
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To me it's very logical. Why would they pander to a league that said no to them? They have the power and teams. They have the business sense and money to do it.
I actually hope they do it.
 
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