It's Club Soccer - Don't Complain About it

You should also correct for the actual release point which brings both closer to the batter.

If you're going to count that, include the batter's box dimension and where the hitter stands too...

And actually, my original post was correct. I was talking about the rate the ball travels and not how long it takes to get to the plate. Your post correcting me confused me so I recalculated for amount of time it takes to get to the plate based on established distances.

Btw, did you ever play baseball? I did. Or are you just pontificating as usual....
 
You should also correct for the actual release point which brings both closer to the batter.
And a Softball pitcher typically leaves the rubber before releasing the ball so the distance is even closer.

The two toughest pitches to hit for a Baseball player in Softball? Rise and change-up.
 
You guys are something else. Men have all the opportunities in sports. Hands down. A man who is good enough at baseball, will certainly forgo college to play since he can make zillions playing pro. A man who is good enough at soccer will be on a fully-funded Academy or off to Europe. Heck, US Soccer would prefer they not play in college anyway! Good enough at tennis? He can go join the pro-circuit where the male athletes make double+ what their female counterparts make. Etc etc etc. Unless she is a tennis phenom or maybe an exotic dancer, a woman is pretty much maxed out if she can make the Ice Capades or the Dallas Cowgirls, where she will rake in a whopping $150 per game with no pay for r

There are millions of dollars out there for talentedcollege? C'mon guys.
Who cares about equality in sports. The goal for women is equality in pay in the workforce. Honestly you are selling women short. There's more famous women C-Level executives in the IT industry now a days. Don't focus on the athletic part of the equality because the market will continue to sell men's sports over women's sports. Consumers will continue to watch male sports over women's sports. Our own daughters prefer to watch men's baseball over softball on TV. Us women's soccer and gymnastics are the only exception.
 
Yes but still not enough and the ceiling for women unfortunately stays at the level below CEO. There needs to be a bigger balance and I would rather see scholarship money going into women interested in math, science, finance, instead of scholarships for sports.

Are the two mutually exclusive?

Some women excel at math, science, finance-- and some excel at sports.

I know what you are saying, and I'm not trying to jump on you, but it is telling--- women deserve opportunities in all of these areas.
 
Are the two mutually exclusive?

Some women excel at math, science, finance-- and some excel at sports.

I know what you are saying, and I'm not trying to jump on you, but it is telling--- women deserve opportunities in all of these areas.

They do but Ultimately a career in softball, gymnastics, basketball ends in college and even women's soccer or men's soccer doesn't lead to a profitable career. MLS pays $60k or so. Honestly most sports for both men and women don't lead to much money. The big 3 do lead to a very rewarding professional career with lots of money but it's still a very small percentage of the overall athletic population.

Bottom line colleges are giving away too much money on sports both men and women. In my industry starting salaries begin at $80k and robotics and other science begin at $100k. I would never want my daughter to do college sports. I want her to be a scientist or engineering. for now youth soccer is awesome for my little one and I will enjoy it until it ends.
 
They do but Ultimately a career in softball, gymnastics, basketball ends in college and even women's soccer or men's soccer doesn't lead to a profitable career. MLS pays $60k or so. Honestly most sports for both men and women don't lead to much money. The big 3 do lead to a very rewarding professional career with lots of money but it's still a very small percentage of the overall athletic population.

Bottom line colleges are giving away too much money on sports both men and women. In my industry starting salaries begin at $80k and robotics and other science begin at $100k. I would never want my daughter to do college sports. I want her to be a scientist or engineering. for now youth soccer is awesome for my little one and I will enjoy it until it ends.
But what does she want? I am an engineer and firmly believe only people that really want to be engineers should be engineers. The others don't make very good engineers. There are many ways to be successful and I stress to my children to look at the big picture and try to fit their interests towards a career that is both financially and personally rewarding.
 
..........In my industry starting salaries begin at $80k and robotics and other science begin at $100k. I would never want my daughter to do college sports. I want her to be a scientist or engineering. for now youth soccer is awesome for my little one and I will enjoy it until it ends.

I just want to say that playing collegiate sports and technical/STEM BS are not mutually exclusive.

There are plenty of STEM majors playing all sort of sports and getting good grades.
 
But what does she want? I am an engineer and firmly believe only people that really want to be engineers should be engineers. The others don't make very good engineers. There are many ways to be successful and I stress to my children to look at the big picture and try to fit their interests towards a career that is both financially and personally rewarding.

This statement is true just about every professional career, not just engineers....
 
You gotta do the math.

Baseball pitched at 95mph=139 ft/s over 90 ft distance = 1.54 ft/s
Softball pitched at 60mph=88 ft/s over 60 ft distance = 1.47 ft/s

Baseball is moving faster. On the top of that, the velocity difference between a fastball, breaking ball and change up can be over 0.25 ft/s over the 90 ft distance so the timing is changed significantly (~16%).

The thing with softball pitch that makes it difficult for baseball batters to hit is fact that the players are not used to the ball rising over the trajectory rather down coming down. Not the relative speed over the distance.
No, my math comment was directed towards calculating how the flow of money to women’s sports from football and bball revenues was draining the budget for smaller men’s sports. I have no comment on the math between baseball and girls softball.

As to the money they get, it’s not dependent on who has the better skill set. I watched Jenny Finch strike out Bonds and Pujols and thought she was amazing. The point is people pay to watch the top baseball players, not the top soft ballers, so the top baseball players deserve the money they earn.

I’m all for the football money going into funding other sports at each university. The football student athletes are generating the revenue and receiving only a scholarship, which vastly underplays their labor. I’d rather see that revenue go to the students than administrators. I just think too much of that football money is being spent on women’s sports where there’s no real interest or demand and it’s lead to men’s sports getting cut.

I’m not going to post on this topic anymore, it’s been said, and there’s tons of material on the internet. But it’s obvious that college men’s sports have been shafted by T9 and political correctness, and it probably makes T9 advocates uncomfortable that their gains have come at the cost of the smaller men’s sports. Blaming football and basketball for spending their own money is just crazy talk, not a solution. I could solve 90% of the world’s problems if I could spend everyone else’s money, gee I wonder why people won’t let me do that?

I’m gonna be honest and say that the excuses for women’s sports not having money and trying to spend the football budget and boosters money should end. There are plenty of women making a lot of money. Those women can buy tickets, watch games, and be boosters for their favorite women’s sport.
 
No, my math comment was directed towards calculating how the flow of money to women’s sports from football and bball revenues was draining the budget for smaller men’s sports. I have no comment on the math between baseball and girls softball.

As to the money they get, it’s not dependent on who has the better skill set. I watched Jenny Finch strike out Bonds and Pujols and thought she was amazing. The point is people pay to watch the top baseball players, not the top soft ballers, so the top baseball players deserve the money they earn.

I’m all for the football money going into funding other sports at each university. The football student athletes are generating the revenue and receiving only a scholarship, which vastly underplays their labor. I’d rather see that revenue go to the students than administrators. I just think too much of that football money is being spent on women’s sports where there’s no real interest or demand and it’s lead to men’s sports getting cut.

I’m not going to post on this topic anymore, it’s been said, and there’s tons of material on the internet. But it’s obvious that college men’s sports have been shafted by T9 and political correctness, and it probably makes T9 advocates uncomfortable that their gains have come at the cost of the smaller men’s sports. Blaming football and basketball for spending their own money is just crazy talk, not a solution. I could solve 90% of the world’s problems if I could spend everyone else’s money, gee I wonder why people won’t let me do that?

I’m gonna be honest and say that the excuses for women’s sports not having money and trying to spend the football budget and boosters money should end. There are plenty of women making a lot of money. Those women can buy tickets, watch games, and be boosters for their favorite women’s sport.

T9 is not about wealth distribution. All the football or basketball money in the world would not prevent a men's program being scrapped i favor of T9.

That said, I see nothing wrong with football or basketball money that is not needed for the actual program to be funneled to other sports or other college programs.
 
Bleacher report has a great article on the 25 best 5-7 players and shorter in the world. That would make for one heck of a team...

My player's college team is always one of the shortest on the field with 5 starters that were 5'5 or shorter. It hurt them on set pieces but they were only outpossessed once all year and that was 52/48 in the NCAA final. Height is nice but it isn't everything.
 
My player's college team is always one of the shortest on the field with 5 starters that were 5'5 or shorter. It hurt them on set pieces but they were only outpossessed once all year and that was 52/48 in the NCAA final. Height is nice but it isn't everything.

The so-called "possession" stat is pretty much meaningless. For instance, who has possession while the clock is ticking as the ball is being retrieved for a throwin - the team that kicked it out, or the team that will throw it in?
 
The so-called "possession" stat is pretty much meaningless. For instance, who has possession while the clock is ticking as the ball is being retrieved for a throwin - the team that kicked it out, or the team that will throw it in?

The 3 best teams at holding possession all made the College Cup on the women's side. I am going to go with it matters A LOT!! The thing that they emphasize the most in training is holding possession by connecting passes and trying to pierce lines with passing.

I trust her more than a dilettante.
 
The 3 best teams at holding possession all made the College Cup on the women's side. I am going to go with it matters A LOT!! The thing that they emphasize the most in training is holding possession by connecting passes and trying to pierce lines with passing.

I trust her more than a dilettante.

You didn't answer the question.

And I didn't say that possession wasn't important. I merely pointed out that the oft-quoted measurement of it is ill-defined garbage,
 
You didn't answer the question.

And I didn't say that possession wasn't important. I merely pointed out that the oft-quoted measurement of it is ill-defined garbage,

Your question was rhetorical. I'm sure that you have the time to look it up and answer the question for all of us. Please don't ask me questions that you can Google the answers for. The stuff that I talk about isn't on Google....
 
Your question was rhetorical. I'm sure that you have the time to look it up and answer the question for all of us. Please don't ask me questions that you can Google the answers for. The stuff that I talk about isn't on Google....

You apparently don't know what "rhetorical question" means.
 
My player's college team is always one of the shortest on the field with 5 starters that were 5'5 or shorter. It hurt them on set pieces but they were only outpossessed once all year and that was 52/48 in the NCAA final. Height is nice but it isn't everything.
man city killing set pieces with short players. killed ManU twice and Mou loves touting his team of trees. sometimes desire and coaching - Pep is an okay coach
 
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