2017-2018 D1 Women's Soccer Talk!

[NoGoal]

At first I thought I agreed with you, but going position for position through the line up of both teams, who would be your starters?

Can’t compare upperclassmen to underclassmen, but IMO Ashley is a better overall talent than Jaye Boisseire. Fleming easily interchangable with Sullivan. Mace is better than Madison Haley. Mace as a senior next year will be just as good as Carusa this year. Gorloski is equal to Kiki as a right back, but Kiki has more upside as a freshmen. Davidson is a true holding mid and not a ctr back, so I will take MAP’s DD.

 

[Ricky Fandango]

Can’t compare upperclassmen to underclassmen, but IMO Ashley is a better overall talent than Jaye Boisseire. Fleming easily interchangable with Sullivan. Mace is better than Madison Haley. Mace as a senior next year will be just as good as Carusa this year. Gorloski is equal to Kiki as a right back, but Kiki has more upside as a freshmen. Davidson is a true holding mid and not a ctr back, so I will take MAP’s DD.

F-90 took Fleming off the table, as she would start on any team.
If I go position for position as they played today, its hard for me to knock any Stanford players off the field, but its a little unfair to consider it like that.
As you pointed out, most of these players can play anywhere on the field, and if they were consolidated into one team, the position-ship would undoubtedly change to put the most talent on the field.
As I previously stated, my view is that it would be close to 50-50 when things shook out.
Fun to contemplate, but really meaningless in the overall scheme of things.

 

[NoGoal]

F-90 took Fleming off the table, as she would start on any team.
If I go position for position as they played today, its hard for me to knock any Stanford players off the field, but its a little unfair to consider it like that.
As you pointed out, most of these players can play anywhere on the field, and if they were consolidated into one team, the position-ship would undoubtedly change to put the most talent on the field.
As I previously stated, my view is that it would be close to 50-50 when things shook out.
Fun to contemplate, but really meaningless in the overall scheme of things.

I agree, put the starters in a draft and the coaches would most likely pick half of each others players.

What is scary is several of the starting players on both teams are in the U20 pool for next year’s U20 WWC.

 

[surfrider]

Can’t compare upperclassmen to underclassmen, but IMO Ashley is a better overall talent than Jaye Boisseire. Fleming easily interchangable with Sullivan. Mace is better than Madison Haley. Mace as a senior next year will be just as good as Carusa this year. Gorloski is equal to Kiki as a right back, but Kiki has more upside as a freshmen. Davidson is a true holding mid and not a ctr back, so I will take MAP’s DD.

Davidson is the best CB in the country. Haley is only starting because Xiao broke her arm. Jaye finally got to play this year and killed it

 

[NoGoal]

Davidson is the best CB in the country. Haley is only starting because Xiao broke her arm. Jaye finally got to play this year and killed it

I would take Mace over Xiao too! Anika and Xiao are a wash. Jaye is a redshirt Sophomore aka Jr....I stand by my post, Ashley is a better overall talent than Jaye. Ashley will eventually be on the Sr WNT. Davidson will be playing Sullivan’s role next year in the midfield, especially with Girma coming next year.

If Pugh didn’t turn pro...UCLA wins by 2 goals over Stanford.

 

[espola]

UCLA definitely slow in the back. #5posterized was having to make risky tackles from behind. UCLA is definitely going to have to make some changes in the back to complete with Stanford.

5 looked like she was wearing her heavy boots today. Perhaps she lost the winged boots she wore on Friday.

 

[full90]

Yeah I agree throw them all into a camp and you’ve got tons of options. But I guess as I was watching today I Didn’t see who I’d swap for. Mace has pace but doesn’t have the ball skill of the Stanford forwards. I’m a huge Sanchez fan and of her ball skill and passing but who would she play over? Fun to think about tho. So much talent and fun to see how each coach uses them and fits them together.

Is davidson really a HM? She’s so good at cback...where do they project her with the national team?

Boissiere graduates in June. Will she stay for grad school and keep playing?

It will be fun to see mace with another year of experience as a forward. I think she left a lot of goals out there this year. If she gets a bit more technical she’d be even more scary good. I don’t think she was 100^ this weekend. Still so fast.

 

[timmyh]

5 looked like she was wearing her heavy boots today. Perhaps she lost the winged boots she wore on Friday.

#5 had a nightmare of a game. The UCLA keeper also wasn't very good and #21 was oddly anonymous. All three are much better than they showed today.
Gotta think they will be back next year, though. Ton of talent on that roster.

#10 and #17 for Stanford were beasts.

 

[abfool]

Some fool said that #5 was the best defender in the country.

That was the best fake news ever.

cmon defender, Make A Play.

Sullivan showed why she is not on the U20, while other UCLA players are.

But it's not her fault she's slow.

I'm going to hang out with ex-Seal Team Six buddies now.

The real ones, not the posers in Orlando.

and maybe beat up some poor granny on the way there

abfool out

 

[surfrider]

How many Stanford players kneeled for the anthem. Karma. What a bitch

 

[pulguita]

Good to see no one gives a rip about women's soccer. The crowd for this weekend was pathetic. They need to start playing the games in facilities that seat about 6000 not 22,000.

 

[NoGoal]

I find it very silly posting shit on a UCLA starting defender who’s team lost in the NCAA Championship game. The player has already accomplished more as a Sophomore than any of us every did in the collegiate athletic level.

Like talking shit on someone who has a Mercedes SL 550, because they didn’t buy the AMG version. Yet, you drive a Honda Civic.

 

[surfrider]

I find it very silly trying to talk shit on a UCLA starting defender who’s team lost in the NCAA Champinship game. The player has already accomplished more as a Sophomore than any of us every did in the collegiate athletic level.

Yep. Just ask her dad

 

[NoGoal]

Yep. Just ask her dad

And what has your DD accomplished? Oh I forgot that would reveal who you are.

 

[turftoe]

Good to see no one gives a rip about women's soccer. The crowd for this weekend was pathetic. They need to start playing the games in facilities that seat about 6000 not 22,000.

Well, I wouldn't say no one gives a rip, but I agree with you on the stadium issue 100%.

For as incredible as the games and the players are, it puts out a bad look on television screens when the empty seats serve as backdrops to many camera angles.

I've in the recent past emailed the PAC12 Network regarding this issue as well, because most of their broadcasts have the cameras rooted on the side of the field where the crowd is, and shoot the game in a way that implies there are very few in attendance because we are seeing the opposite side -- it's not a wise way to sell the game to the casual viewer flipping thru channels (broadcasts at Oregon, Stanford, Washington as specific examples)

Clearly they've yet to agree with my suggestion

As far as college cup goes, it's a treat for the teams to use these big facilities and I'm assuming it's done so in part for scheduling as well? If you held higher-seed home advantage all the way thru the final, I assume there are many scheduling and logistical issues for national broadcast that come into play.

That being said, if the college cup games continue in these big arenas, which they are slated to do, there's got to be a better way to fuel local attendance, and a better way to get the sense of the crowd actually in attendance via better camera work.

Congratulations to both UCLA and Stanford on amazing seasons.

It's not easy getting to where they got.

 

[surfrider]

And what has your DD accomplished? Oh I forgot that would reveal who you are.

I don’t go on forums to brag about my kid
Only tools do that

 

[LASTMAN14]

Well, I wouldn't say no one gives a rip, but I agree with you on the stadium issue 100%.

For as incredible as the games and the players are, it puts out a bad look on television screens when the empty seats serve as backdrops to many camera angles.

I've in the recent past emailed the PAC12 Network regarding this issue as well, because most of their broadcasts have the cameras rooted on the side of the field where the crowd is, and shoot the game in a way that implies there are very few in attendance because we are seeing the opposite side -- it's not a wise way to sell the game to the casual viewer flipping thru channels (broadcasts at Oregon, Stanford, Washington as specific examples)

Clearly they've yet to agree with my suggestion

As far as college cup goes, it's a treat for the teams to use these big facilities and I'm assuming it's done so in part for scheduling as well? If you held higher-seed home advantage all the way thru the final, I assume there are many scheduling and logistical issues for national broadcast that come into play.

That being said, if the college cup games continue in these big arenas, which they are slated to do, there's got to be a better way to fuel local attendance, and a better way to get the sense of the crowd actually in attendance via better camera work.

Congratulations to both UCLA and Stanford on amazing seasons.

It's not easy getting to where they got.

This last Saturday they held the CIF Division 3 Football championship game at a local junior college. It was a packed game and for the most part sold out. Almost 12,000 in attendance. A friend who is a executive for sports programming stated its to bad they are going back to Anaheim Stadium. This size facility was much better in bringing in the crowd and creating a terrific game time atmosphere. Agreed the Women's NCAA final needs to be played at a facility that creates more of a environment.

 

[full90]

I know in the past, when selecting the college cup venue, locations were eliminated for being too big! Not sure what has changed. I’m glad the games were on a great surface and what seemed like a beautiful facility. With good weather. Surely those variables exist in a smaller venue somewhere? Oh and Thursday-Sunday games. Not too much to ask.

I’d love to see the men’s and women’s college cup be the same weekend. Just as a fan that would be awesome to see so much soccer. Although it would be funny to juxtapose Stanford women’s beautiful game with the foul fest direct Set piece style of the Stanford men.

Good points on Pac-12 broadcasts. While we are fixing the world’s ills can we get better pac 12 announcers? Some are agony.

 

[Lambchop]

Good to see no one gives a rip about women's soccer. The crowd for this weekend was pathetic. They need to start playing the games in facilities that seat about 6000 not 22,000.

The college cup has never been a huge draw. Mostly family and friends. What were you thinking?

 

[surfrider]

I know in the past, when selecting the college cup venue, locations were eliminated for being too big! Not sure what has changed. I’m glad the games were on a great surface and what seemed like a beautiful facility. With good weather. Surely those variables exist in a smaller venue somewhere? Oh and Thursday-Sunday games. Not too much to ask.

I’d love to see the men’s and women’s college cup be the same weekend. Just as a fan that would be awesome to see so much soccer. Although it would be funny to juxtapose Stanford women’s beautiful game with the foul fest direct Set piece style of the Stanford men.

Good points on Pac-12 broadcasts. While we are fixing the world’s ills can we get better pac 12 announcers? Some are agony.

I actually had this conversation with a Pac-12 production guy a few weeks back. I asked him the same questions and he mentioned it has all to do with lighting. Day games deal with sun issues and evening games they get problems with shadows .
The worst tv is at UCLA. Watching that telecast you feel you are watching a split screen with the intramural field in the background

 

[pulguita]

Well, I wouldn't say no one gives a rip, but I agree with you on the stadium issue 100%.

For as incredible as the games and the players are, it puts out a bad look on television screens when the empty seats serve as backdrops to many camera angles.

I've in the recent past emailed the PAC12 Network regarding this issue as well, because most of their broadcasts have the cameras rooted on the side of the field where the crowd is, and shoot the game in a way that implies there are very few in attendance because we are seeing the opposite side -- it's not a wise way to sell the game to the casual viewer flipping thru channels (broadcasts at Oregon, Stanford, Washington as specific examples)

Clearly they've yet to agree with my suggestion

As far as college cup goes, it's a treat for the teams to use these big facilities and I'm assuming it's done so in part for scheduling as well? If you held higher-seed home advantage all the way thru the final, I assume there are many scheduling and logistical issues for national broadcast that come into play.

That being said, if the college cup games continue in these big arenas, which they are slated to do, there's got to be a better way to fuel local attendance, and a better way to get the sense of the crowd actually in attendance via better camera work.

Congratulations to both UCLA and Stanford on amazing seasons.

It's not easy getting to where they got.

Well I am posting as someone that has a little credibility since I was personally at last years which we won and watching this years on tv I think it is a fail. They need to move it to venues that can provide better atmosphere it terms of fan involvement. The stadiums are nice but not when they are at 15-20% capacity.