West Coast/Surf OC

growingpains said:
While I think Surf is a great organization, it's sad to see the brand being diluted like this - soon it won't mean anything and they're just going to have their own league where their teams just play each other. Did anyone see the full page ad they put out in the soccer.com catalog asking if teams wanted to join the franchise?
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I think bringing a power house club like WC and Surf together as partners will change the landscape of soccer in OC. We all know that both the Pats and Strikers could care less about their girls program unlike WC and the Slammers care a little bit about the boys but mainly the girls side. My club could care less about either !!!
 
Futbol Boss said:
I am a coach for one of those clubs that would love to be able to give players an option within my club, rather then the Slammers, Blues, OC Surf or Strikers recruiting my players to their organizations.
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Yah don’t say....but your posts seem to contradict themselves as you are praising Surf OC in one hand but complaining about them recruiting your players in another. Am I missing something?
 
Futbol Boss said:
I think bringing a power house club like WC and Surf together as partners will change the landscape of soccer in OC. We all know that both the Pats and Strikers could care less about their girls program unlike WC and the Slammers care a little bit about the boys but mainly the girls side. My club could care less about either !!!
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Dude are you just trolling with these takes or are you for real. Cause I just started drinking and can’t handle anymore of this until maybe later on tonight.
 
Nutmeg said:
Than I feel your pain. However the option should be that you develope your players and that their opportunities are the same as those within a bigger club, because US Soccer equally values all players and clubs. Your players should not be forced are feel they have to move tonhave a better chance. The conglomerates who consume competition and devalue your work are not a thing to admire.
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Thanks !! I wish my BOD would see it like that. They have a different philosophy and say if a parent feels their child is to good for our program then let them leave. Pretty Sad !! They feel that these parents are just a distraction and headache on the sidelines. I wish I had 15 of these headaches on the weekend !! Drives me nuts to develop a kid and then he takes off.
 
Futbol Boss said:
Something tells me that OC Surf will be the power house club to work for starting this next season !! Who wouldn't want their child to be part of a club that has all of the necessary pathways for the future growth in the game of soccer.
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If you need someone to chart out a path for you, that generally means that you don't have what it takes to get there.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Yah don’t say....but your posts seem to contradict themselves as you are praising Surf OC in one hand but complaining about them recruiting your players in another. Am I missing something?
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I wish every club and every organization success, but knowing some of the coaches in the area, they seem to be pretty down to earth for the most part. I have friends at the Blues, Slammers, etc.... but Surf seems to have did something right to have the WC brand want to switch identities. According to one of my friends WC has been approached by many other clubs to do a merger but turned them all down !!!
 
Not_that_Serious said:
I thought WC had issue with DA. I know many players in 05 got displaced from flights like dominoes due to the problem. id hope just changing a jersey wouldnt circumvent unfixed issues
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I heard that six players from that age bracket are wanting back at WC. I know because I spent the past three weekends trying to recruit these girls. Oh well, I'm used to it but never give up. My club needs to partner with OC Surf or someone else before we disappear from the map.
 
Fact said:
It is sad to see the era of mega clubs. IMO West Coast has some of the best coaches around. I understand why other clubs have become franchises-economies of scale, name brand etc. but not sure what West Coast gets out of this. With so many A licenses and contacts I would believe that they could have been just as successful at franchising.

I wonder if this will be set up as one of the standard Surf franchises or whether they hope to poach some coaches? West Coast has had a very stable coach base unlike Surf the past few years and could gain a lot having some coaches with great contacts at the Polo Fields.
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OC Surf !!! Please hire me if anyone does go south !! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
 
El Clasico said:
You are so right!! This trend will continue for years to come. As long as you have middle and upper class parents who continue to drive the revenue stream, there is no way to stop this money grab. Irony is that the very people who fund this charade are, for the most part, parents with children who will NEVER make it to the big game. Only in Club Soccer do you see people buying into the whole "pathway to something..." bullsh*t. I have never seen a professional athlete from any sport that I am familiar with that needed someone else to provide them with a pathway to anything. Mostly just people or organizations getting in their way, on their way, to the big leagues. If there is one thing I have noticed over the years, it is that the unicorns make their own path and do their own thing. In fact, it is usually all the uptight do gooders screaming "don't be that parent" that are too blind to see that top talent doesn't need anyone to create a pathway for them.

There is so much broken with the system in the US that it is to the point where we need to scrap the whole thing and replace it with something completely different but I realize that won't happen.
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In any sport only .001 percent 'make it' to the highest level. But that doesn't mean everyone should quit. Play until someone tells you that you are no longer good enough.
Every sport has a path. It is similar in baseball, basketball, hockey etc. Its travel ball. You play HS (but its because of travel) then if you are great you get drafted. If you are a step below you get to college. There are thousands of colleges that have baseball programs. It just matters where you fit in. So that is the path. No kid even knows what any of it means. The parents figure it out and get the kid on the right path. None of those guys are there just because they just showed up. They all have parents that helped them. I know for a fact. Soccer is the same. You have to have youth teams and many of them to create a pool of future players. There has to be competition. Every year the heard gets thinned out and the cream keeps rising. It the players that are talented and dedicated survive the next cut.
 
El Clasico said:
If you need someone to chart out a path for you, that generally means that you don't have what it takes to get there.
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you don't know what you don't know. Is it just a natural instinct to wake up and know how to get wherever you are going? Id be very interested in finding a top level player that just knew. More than likely they got help.
 
Futbol Boss said:
I think bringing a power house club like WC and Surf together as partners will change the landscape of soccer in OC. We all know that both the Pats and Strikers could care less about their girls program unlike WC and the Slammers care a little bit about the boys but mainly the girls side. My club could care less about either !!!
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I wouldn't be surprised to see this trigger other mergers in OC. I don't know how they would work it out on the boys side, but a merger of Pats and Strikers would seem to make sense on the girls side. Strikers are strong in ECNL but currently thin in the younger ages. Pats are struggling in girls DA and could benefit from a larger talent pool/budget. Together I think they might make a good dual DA/ECNL club. That might leave DPL in a lurch but I doubt that's the Pats' primary concern right now.
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
You are right, it isn't the same, it is better. If the goal is to be better as a nation at soccer, we need more kids playing soccer. The more kids that play soccer and develop a passion for a game the bigger the pool of talent.

The people who lament the current state of soccer versus times past are a curious bunch. Does somehow a kid that isn't great being on "club" soccer somehow diminish what you did 20-25 years ago? The "lets move everybody that isn't great to rec" angle is stupid. The kids are having fun. They are making friends. They are getting exercise and they are staying out of trouble. These are wins. More kids in competitive soccer, not less.
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Those kids can do the same with rec soccer and high school soccer. But hey, lets line the pockets of the big clubs.
Futbol Boss said:
OC Surf will never give their tournament away !! Largest two day soccer tournament in the United States and directed by two fantastic people !! Love helping them with their event each year.
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Texas ????
jose said:
In any sport only .001 percent 'make it' to the highest level. But that doesn't mean everyone should quit. Play until someone tells you that you are no longer good enough.
Every sport has a path. It is similar in baseball, basketball, hockey etc. Its travel ball. You play HS (but its because of travel) then if you are great you get drafted. If you are a step below you get to college. There are thousands of colleges that have baseball programs. It just matters where you fit in. So that is the path. No kid even knows what any of it means. The parents figure it out and get the kid on the right path. None of those guys are there just because they just showed up. They all have parents that helped them. I know for a fact. Soccer is the same. You have to have youth teams and many of them to create a pool of future players. There has to be competition. Every year the heard gets thinned out and the cream keeps rising. It the players that are talented and dedicated survive the next cut.
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So true, but oh so expensive! $$$$$$$$$$$$
 
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