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Why do teams even bother to play tournaments, for the pride of the players or for the coaches pride and the points!!!
Teams are suppost to hold their own, not borrow help to falsely win.
I think these coaches were picked on in school and as an adult they have to fit in somehow.
 
Sad but true. LAUFA reserves are not in sync in league play
The coach has 18-20 players on the reserve team. He makes a point of rotating players at the developmental league games. That might explain perceived sync issues at league play. I imagine during tournaments he plays his starters more.
LAUFA Tournaments
Cerritos Cup - mainly Academy to be and a couple reserves
Surf Cup - All Academy and a couple reserves
Pats Cup - 2 Academy players
NHB Cup - 0 Academy players
Cerritos Cup - mainly Academy to be and a couple reserves. Golden State 03 also played their Academy team.
Surf Cup - All Academy and a couple reserves. That was a tournament for academies exclusively.
Pats Cup - One academy to-be player
NHB Cup - 0 Academy players
 
The coach has 18-20 players on the reserve team. He makes a point of rotating players at the developmental league games. That might explain perceived sync issues at league play. I imagine during tournaments he plays his starters more.

Cerritos Cup - mainly Academy to be and a couple reserves. Golden State 03 also played their Academy team.
Surf Cup - All Academy and a couple reserves. That was a tournament for academies exclusively.
Pats Cup - One academy to-be player
NHB Cup - 0 Academy players

In big pic, it does not matter, boys have to play who they play and win or lose. It does make it hard to gauge what "team" is quality and where other true teams stack up. Technically it can become an issue if the placement in the summer tournaments has some bearing on the league division placement. It is just surprising that that team that did so well in summer tournaments is struggling currently in league. Coach em up coach!
 
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The sidetracks this thread takes is o_O which teams use guests or tryout players during summer tournaments; don't most?

Which teams have lower income players? Club is $ so not many, some sponsorship is going on and some places have lower fees and subsidies. Does one club do this better than other? can't really say I've seen any difference.

Relative age effect (RAE) is real but doesn't really matter that its been shifted, you must play the cards you're dealt. Not many clubs are playing players up anymore so that's too bad

Hahahaha!

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Which game?
 
According to your own post Slammers is 4th tier in the "hierarchy in the SoCal soccer world" for boys If those players are as good as you say thing will leave because slammers has nothing to offer them but CRL or SCDSL. which are now diluted and not even as strong as CSL anymore. Maybe the Strikers will take a couple of them or they can drive to LA and tryout for LAFC in 18-19' when they go full academy.
http://www.socalsoccer.com/threads/academy-season.267/page-9

Yes, Slammers is on a lower rung of the food chain, but just as you can have bad academy teams, you can also have non-academy teams that are as good as or better than academy teams.

When I look at a team, I'm not drinking the academy Kool Aid or wearing academy beer goggles.

I would say the academy teams are usually better, but there are exceptions. Slammers Godinez, in the 03 age group, is definitely the exception.
 
The Slammers are very good but there is no way this team will stay together in my opinion. There's always those parents that care more about being recognized than being developed.
For example. Slammers had a kid that was good. The dad decided to take the kid to Pateadores which is not as good as Slammers right now. He left because he would rather play for an Academy rather then play for a club team. This Kid had a bright future with Carlos and now he will be a rotation player on Pats.. This was a very bad decision that the father made.

You obviously have a lot of inside information, but not enough. The kid you are talking about left Golden State Academy to play for Slammers. If the only thing he cared about was academy, he could have stayed with Golden State. Or he could have gone to any number of academy teams, because he was constantly being recruited.

There's always a certain amount of conflict of interest between what's good for the player and what's good for the team. It's really hard to achieve a good balance between these two interests. For the kid you're talking about, the Pats coaching staff and their program focused on and did a lot of work on his weakest areas, where he needed a lot of work and improvement.

Slammers Godinez, on the other hand, is focused on coaching what they need to do to win right now. And they should, because they are in position to win right now. If I were coaching a team as good as that team, I would focus on winning right now too because things change fast for kids at this age, and I would want to win when I had the size and physical maturity advantage, and I would not slow the team down to address one player's weaknesses.

The kid's decision, and it was most definitely his decision, didn't come down to winning, or academy team vs non-academy team, or money (he left a nearly fully funded GSA team because it wasn't the right fit). It came down to which team and coaching staff had the program to make him a better player.


This is why Slammers won't last. No loyalty from parents who Carlos helped develop. Unless Carlos gets the LAFC partnership like the Girls did then Slammers will have to find big time sponsors to keep this team together..

Are you done with your rant? Several kids on that team, just like every other team, were picked off from other teams. Galaxy picked off bunch of GSA and TFA players, both GSA and TFA picked off Chivas players, who in turn picked off players from Cosmos and other Inland Empire teams, GSA also picked off bunch of Celtic and Cosmos players. That's how the soccer world works. If you don't like it stay home.

Coaches cut players that are not as good or aren't the right fit, or limit their playing time or their role on the team. Is that a lack of loyalty by the coach to the player?

Every coach makes decisions which players to keep, their playing time, the role of each player, and these decisions are made based on what the coach sees as his team's best interest. Should a coach make those decisions based on loyalty to the players who have been with him longest? Because if he does, then he is going to have a hard time recruiting new players, and that team is going to die.

I think you are very naive to throw in the word loyalty when it comes to decisions regarding team selection and when to change teams, because the way you are using loyalty, it's only one way, player loyalty to the coach. "Loyalty" is basically your way of saying that players should ignore their best interest and instead stay with a coach or a team that's not as good a choice for that player.

Personally, I think it is very bad advice on your part, and since you are clearly a very smart guy, I'm sure you would not follow your own loyalty advice when it comes to your son.

Goudinez is a funded team that is funding less fortunate players with low income families. This is the only team that can claim this.

TFA claims to keep the kids out the streets and collects a lot of money for it. More than half of the TFA players are not from the streets. Most of them are above middle class. At least last year it was.

TFA funded but not many poor kids
Galaxy funded only a few poor mostly well off families
GSA 10 percent low income players
Goudinez 95% low income. The 5% went to pats to spend 2k a year.

I have no idea how it is even possible for you to know the incomes of the parents on every team, since no team that I know of requires you to provide an income tax return to sign up. I'm just gonna say that your numbers are ridiculously off, and again, you are naive to think funding was based on need or income. The best players get the most funding, regardless of income, and it's like that on every team.
 
You obviously have a lot of inside information, but not enough. The kid you are talking about left Golden State Academy to play for Slammers. If the only thing he cared about was academy, he could have stayed with Golden State. Or he could have gone to any number of academy teams, because he was constantly being recruited.

There's always a certain amount of conflict of interest between what's good for the player and what's good for the team. It's really hard to achieve a good balance between these two interests. For the kid you're talking about, the Pats coaching staff and their program focused on and did a lot of work on his weakest areas, where he needed a lot of work and improvement.

Slammers Godinez, on the other hand, is focused on coaching what they need to do to win right now. And they should, because they are in position to win right now. If I were coaching a team as good as that team, I would focus on winning right now too because things change fast for kids at this age, and I would want to win when I had the size and physical maturity advantage, and I would not slow the team down to address one player's weaknesses.

The kid's decision, and it was most definitely his decision, didn't come down to winning, or academy team vs non-academy team, or money (he left a nearly fully funded GSA team because it wasn't the right fit). It came down to which team and coaching staff had the program to make him a better player.




Are you done with your rant? Several kids on that team, just like every other team, were picked off from other teams. Galaxy picked off bunch of GSA and TFA players, both GSA and TFA picked off Chivas players, who in turn picked off players from Cosmos and other Inland Empire teams, GSA also picked off bunch of Celtic and Cosmos players. That's how the soccer world works. If you don't like it stay home.

Coaches cut players that are not as good or aren't the right fit, or limit their playing time or their role on the team. Is that a lack of loyalty by the coach to the player?

Every coach makes decisions which players to keep, their playing time, the role of each player, and these decisions are made based on what the coach sees as his team's best interest. Should a coach make those decisions based on loyalty to the players who have been with him longest? Because if he does, then he is going to have a hard time recruiting new players, and that team is going to die.

I think you are very naive to throw in the word loyalty when it comes to decisions regarding team selection and when to change teams, because the way you are using loyalty, it's only one way, player loyalty to the coach. "Loyalty" is basically your way of saying that players should ignore their best interest and instead stay with a coach or a team that's not as good a choice for that player.

Personally, I think it is very bad advice on your part, and since you are clearly a very smart guy, I'm sure you would not follow your own loyalty advice when it comes to your son.



I have no idea how it is even possible for you to know the incomes of the parents on every team, since no team that I know of requires you to provide an income tax return to sign up. I'm just gonna say that your numbers are ridiculously off, and again, you are naive to think funding was based on need or income. The best players get the most funding, regardless of income, and it's like that on every team.

You're an idiot
 
This is why Slammers won't last. No loyalty from parents who Carlos helped develop. Unless Carlos gets the LAFC partnership like the Girls did then Slammers will have to find big time sponsors to keep this team together.

Wanted to stay out of this but had to jump in on this one. Think you underestimate the loyalty the core group has for Godinez. Most of you do not have any idea about the work he does to get them to and from games etc. Most of that core group are not paying much if anything. Unless there is a bus or taxi to get these kids to and from the fields they are staying as he has taken very good care of them and has their best interest at heart. He along with the other Slammers coaches can really help with these boys getting to college and doing something that nobody else in their families have had a chance to do. He might be a pain in the butt on the sideline but in many ways he is a rare breed as he has made it possible for much of the talent that usually would not have a chance to play club soccer.
 
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Wanted to stay out of this but had to jump in on this one. Think you underestimate the loyalty the core group has for Godinez. Most of you do not have any idea about the work he does to get them to and from games etc. Most of that core group are not paying much if anything. Unless there is a bus or taxi to get these kids to and from the fields they are staying as he has taken very good care of them and has their best interest at heart. He along with the other Slammers coaches can really help with these boys getting to college and doing something that nobody else in their families have had a chance to do. He might be a pain in the butt on the sideline but in many ways he is a rare breed as he has made it possible for much of the talent that usually would not have a chance to play club soccer.


Wow reality can't beat that one.
When you are good at something, passionate and work even harder to excel and be the best at it, good things happen. keep up the good work coach.
 
Wow reality can't beat that one.
When you are good at something, passionate and work even harder to excel and be the best at it, good things happen. keep up the good work coach.

Monkey Boy, why do you have to copy and paste everything you post? WE already know you're not intelligent.

1. When you work hard at something you become good at it.

2. When you become good at doing something, you will enjoy it more.

3. When you enjoy doing something, there is a very good chance you will become passionate or more passionate about it

4. When you are good at something, passionate and work even harder to excel and be the best at it, good things happen.

https://www.google.com/amp/blogmave...our-effort/amp/?client=ms-android-metropcs-us
 
Monkey Boy, why do you have to copy and paste everything you post? WE already know you're not intelligent.

1. When you work hard at something you become good at it.

2. When you become good at doing something, you will enjoy it more.

3. When you enjoy doing something, there is a very good chance you will become passionate or more passionate about it

4. When you are good at something, passionate and work even harder to excel and be the best at it, good things happen.

https://www.google.com/amp/blogmave...our-effort/amp/?client=ms-android-metropcs-us

hijo de la chingada
 
Monkey Boy, why do you have to copy and paste everything you post? WE already know you're not intelligent.

1. When you work hard at something you become good at it.

2. When you become good at doing something, you will enjoy it more.

3. When you enjoy doing something, there is a very good chance you will become passionate or more passionate about it

4. When you are good at something, passionate and work even harder to excel and be the best at it, good things happen.

https://www.google.com/amp/blogmave...our-effort/amp/?client=ms-android-metropcs-us


Calla tu sucia boca. Hijo estupido
 
Monkey Boy, why do you have to copy and paste everything you post? WE already know you're not intelligent.

1. When you work hard at something you become good at it.

2. When you become good at doing something, you will enjoy it more.

3. When you enjoy doing something, there is a very good chance you will become passionate or more passionate about it

4. When you are good at something, passionate and work even harder to excel and be the best at it, good things happen.

https://www.google.com/amp/blogmave...our-effort/amp/?client=ms-android-metropcs-us


It's amazing how people calling other people monkey, when your own mother slept with the same ape.
 
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