I think it should be mandatory that all coaches & DOC get drug tested twice a year.

chargerfan said:
So this means you don't have an answer? I'm sick of your trolling. This is stupid. I'll be sure to warn Shannon some holier than thou dad is going to demand a drug test from her for no reason at all.
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Jesus now your getting on the pipe!
 
chargerfan said:
If you have a personal experience with a sharks coach being under the influence I would appreciate a dm. I won't be holding my breath though.
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I had a drunk Sharks coach about 7-8 years ago. The original head coach was in a car accident and this coach lived a couple blocks from the field. The game kicked off at 4pm and the coach was at home when he got the call that he needed to fill in. Evidently he had family at his house and had consumed about a six pack. He walked over to the field, showed his coaches card and let the team manager run the game. Without the coach the game would not have been played because there would not have been a carded coach.
 
Surfref said:
I had a drunk Sharks coach about 7-8 years ago. The original head coach was in a car accident and this coach lived a couple blocks from the field. The game kicked off at 4pm and the coach was at home when he got the call that he needed to fill in. Evidently he had family at his house and had consumed about a six pack. He walked over to the field, showed his coaches card and let the team manager run the game. Without the coach the game would not have been played because there would not have been a carded coach.
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Sounds like responsible adults being responsible.
 
Classic troll behavior. Starts out with a holier than thou proposition about randomly drug testing coaches, and how it's wrong to have a few drinks at night, verging on the radical religious.

Tries to continue the argument, claiming that anything, no matter the intrusiveness or cost is warranted, if his personal standards of "drug use" can be applied to "protect the kids." Gets upset when people don't flock to agree with him, ignores rational logical contrary arguments, and facts.

Now, our new moral authority starts calling people "dirty little bitches," saying "shit" and "hell", and accuses strangers posting on a board of being drunk.

Troll.
 
coachrefparent said:
Classic troll behavior. Starts out with a holier than thou proposition about randomly drug testing coaches, and how it's wrong to have a few drinks at night, verging on the radical religious.

Tries to continue the argument, claiming that anything, no matter the intrusiveness or cost is warranted, if his personal standards of "drug use" can be applied to "protect the kids." Gets upset when people don't flock to agree with him, ignores rational logical contrary arguments, and facts.

Now, our new moral authority starts calling people "dirty little bitches," saying "shit" and "hell", and accuses strangers posting on a board of being drunk.

Troll.
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Ha ha I love this guy!
My stance is the same, I do believe it should be mandatory for anyone dealing with other peoples children to be drug tested. If you work with children then yes get tested.
And yes I do attend church, but I'm far from holier than thou. I do drink and I for sure cuss! I am just a regular guy that thinks their is a loop hole in the system that opens the door for the potential to harm children. I will still stand my ground and say it should be addressed.
I'm not looking for a fight, I'm not looking to put my self in some moral high ground as if I'm better than anyone, this is in NO WAY AT ALL about me. I'm simply using a soccer talk forum to see what others think in the soccer world about a loop hole in the system.
I'm not calling anyone names and I promise I am NOT in any way shape or form pissed or angry.
I find it very interesting that some on here are almost pissed (coaches) about this and others have tried all angles to get me to argue or fight online over this.

And YA I will say this again.. if your drinking a few scotches every night after practices topped off with a joint then you have a major problem in life! But that again wasn't the point of this, that was me responding to a person who was again trying to derail the conversation to something about what he thinks is acceptable in his own life and I responded.

Talking about dirty bitches ha ha please I was simply joining in on someone's joke. I'm not some person who pretends to be something I am not. I will joke around, cuss and drink with the best of ya! And get this I have met some lady's that are actual complete bitches and even some men ha ha do I call lady's bitches NO, but that doesn't mean they are not a BITCH!
But unlike some I do not turn a blind eye to anything when it comes to being proactive with the safety of children.
I truly enjoyed everyone's point of view, I enjoyed some of the crazies trying to bait me into a full out war and I laughed a lot at some of the jokes.
I'm totally cool with all of the input from the negaitive twisting of words to the straight up good views.
Very entertaining thread!
 
Love this....

Paragraph 3: "I'm far from holier than thou"
Paragraph 4: "not looking to put myself on any moral high ground"


Paragraph 7: "if your (sic) drinking a few scotches every night topped off with a joint than you have a major problem in life"
Paragraph 8: "what he thinks is ok in his own life" (what condescension)

Love it!!

And then saying he doesn't call women bitches, then a sentence later calls them bitches.

Comedy gold.
 
chargerfan said:
Love this....

Paragraph 3: "I'm far from holier than thou"
Paragraph 4: "not looking to put myself on any moral high ground"


Paragraph 7: "if your (sic) drinking a few scotches every night topped off with a joint than you have a major problem in life"
Paragraph 8: "what he thinks is ok in his own life" (what condescension)

Love it!!

And then saying he doesn't call women bitches, then a sentence later calls them bitches.

Comedy gold.
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I'm loving this keep it coming...
I think your cheese done slipped off the cracker buddy.
3-stuff ones in and sitting in a cloud typing in a daze.
Ha ha this is the stuff that people shouldn't do 3 sheets to the wind!

You truly need to learn to comprehend what people are saying when reading. Talk about a Troll WOW :(

Go away crazy your making me laugh!
 
sandshark said:
I'm loving this keep it coming...
I think your cheese done slipped off the cracker buddy.
3-stuff ones in and sitting in a cloud typing in a daze.
Ha ha this is the stuff that people shouldn't do 3 sheets to the wind!

You truly need to learn to comprehend what people are saying when reading. Talk about a Troll WOW :(

Go away crazy your making me laugh!
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Since you're so nonjudgmental, why do you care so much about my current state of sobriety. It's becoming a weird obsession.
 
chargerfan said:
Love this....

Paragraph 3: "I'm far from holier than thou"
Paragraph 4: "not looking to put myself on any moral high ground"


Paragraph 7: "if your (sic) drinking a few scotches every night topped off with a joint than you have a major problem in life"
Paragraph 8: "what he thinks is ok in his own life" (what condescension)

Love it!!

And then saying he doesn't call women bitches, then a sentence later calls them bitches.

Comedy gold.
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Without Sharky indenting or consistently skipping lines to start a new paragraph, your synopsis is hard to follow. How about you also provide the line number or better yet, copy and then hi-lite it . . . NOT!
 
Fact said:
Without Sharky indenting or consistently skipping lines to start a new paragraph, your synopsis is hard to follow. How about you also provide the line number or better yet, copy and then hi-lite it . . . NOT!
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Who has that kind of time? I'm just messing with this clearly insane person but it is getting old. This whole thread should just be deleted.
 
Since you're so nonjudgmental, why do you care so much about my current state of sobriety. It's becoming a weird obsession.[/QUOTE

Your correct- I don't care. I'm just hoping your not as crazy as you sound i was hoping it was the booze talking.
The thing is this.. when you expose your idea of a typical good evening of drinking two scotches every night topped off with a joint you pretty much dismiss yourself as anyone worth responding to.
But..I was a little bored watching TV and you caught me off guard ha ha
Time for dinner. I'm done with with you, your played out kinda like your stage name of "Charger fan" come on man get something new like..
2-sheets and one joint to the wind ha ha

Google "drunk Troll" and get yourself some help buddy. Oh ya the Chargers moved on like you should.. :)
 
sandshark said:
Since you're so nonjudgmental, why do you care so much about my current state of sobriety. It's becoming a weird obsession.[/QUOTE

Your correct- I don't care. I'm just hoping your not as crazy as you sound i was hoping it was the booze talking.
The thing is this.. when you expose your idea of a typical good evening of drinking two scotches every night topped off with a joint you pretty much dismiss yourself as anyone worth responding to.
But..I was a little bored watching TV and you caught me off guard ha ha
Time for dinner. I'm done with with you, your played out kinda like your stage name of "Charger fan" come on man get something new like..
2-sheets and one joint to the wind ha ha

Google "drunk Troll" and get yourself some help buddy. Oh ya the Chargers moved on like you should.. :)
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Please stop. This is harassment at this point and will be taken to Shannon. And please learn the difference between "your" and "you're". It's hard to take anyone seriously who uses them incorrectly so consistently.
 
chargerfan said:
Random drug testing without any sort of reasonable suspicion that a coach has been abusing drugs is a clear violation of privacy. There is no club willing to open themselves up to that lawsuit.

If you think your coach is drunk or high during a practice or game, pull your kid out of the situation and notify the doc. Problem solved.
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I believe coach have to go through a "live scan" which is a good step in the right direction. But yes we let coaches get away with too much. They are paid instructors and should behave as such. Too many times I see them cross boundaries. I think additional training should be required to work with kids. Maybe a separate license that deal with basic child development.
 
outside! said:
I have read all the posts. While you usually have some good posts, you are tilting at windmills with this thread. I have two kids in club soccer and have only seen one problem with an inebriated coach over the years. That coach would be SteveO of Surf and that incident was reported to the club (and he nearly got his ass beat as well by one of the parents). He was not my kid's coach. While I did not ever hear what Surf did about the incident, we left the club about six months later. NO NEED TO SHOUT.
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This coach ended up in the news for driving the wrong way on I5. Unfortunate because he was a decent guy from what I heard from other parents. As for the Surf their coach are not all that great the club is great at gathering talent and wining at all costs.
 
sandshark said:
Why not? Not worth the effort? Not worth the money? Not worth kids safety? WHY THE HELL NOT? Do they do any drug testing for youth soccer coaches now? ANYTHING AT ALL?
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What exactly would drug testing accomplish? So some coach sparks a doobie before practice, who cares other than a morality standpoint. doubt it suddenly becomes a safety issue cause he/she lit one up. There's a dozen parents watching like Hawks at every practice and game so I'm pretty sure nothing ridiculous is slipping by. Worst case scenario is a coach shows up drunk and falls on their face, most likely a safety issue for them. Which by the way it's happened and word gets back to the club real quick and coach is gone. Problem solved. Not condoning any of it I just could care less what my kids coach does at home as long as it's not brought out to the field, which again would be on obvious problem and an obvious and easy solution.
 
Primetime said:
What exactly would drug testing accomplish? So some coach sparks a doobie before practice, who cares other than a morality standpoint. doubt it suddenly becomes a safety issue cause he/she lit one up. There's a dozen parents watching like Hawks at every practice and game so I'm pretty sure nothing ridiculous is slipping by. Worst case scenario is a coach shows up drunk and falls on their face, most likely a safety issue for them. Which by the way it's happened and word gets back to the club real quick and coach is gone. Problem solved. Not condoning any of it I just could care less what my kids coach does at home as long as it's not brought out to the field, which again would be on obvious problem and an obvious and easy solution.
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Well it sounds as if you have it all figured out then.
 
sandshark said:
Why not? Not worth the effort? Not worth the money? Not worth kids safety? WHY THE HELL NOT? Do they do any drug testing for youth soccer coaches now? ANYTHING AT ALL?
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Sounds like you need to be tested for all drugs and steroids
 
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